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Old 09-27-2010, 05:20 PM   #1
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Default Dilemma: Outdoor or pad training?

So Levi and I moved into an apartment from a house with a fenced-in yard to a third-floor apartment about a month ago. Levi is pretty well outdoor potty-trained, but for the past week or so I have seriously considered incorporating pee pads into our routine (which is something I said I would never do!)

Leashing up and walking down three flights of stairs many times per day is quite a different scenario than simply opening the back door and allowing Levi to go out in the yard. I'm also finding it more difficult to pick up on his potty signals. He has had a few pee accidents in the month or so we have lived here, which isn't a huge deal, but I hate to think I am not being accommodating enough to his potty needs.

How would I train him to even use the pee pads when he knows not to go indoors? Would it be confusing for him to continue going out sometimes and using the pee pads when I am at work/class? I am still working through all the logistics in my head. Any and all advice is welcome!
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I would definitely use pee pads or a litter box. Try to take him out on scheduel several times a day and let him use the pads or litter the rest of the time. You both will probably be much happier.
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I would definitely use pee pads or a litter box. Try to take him out on scheduel several times a day and let him use the pads or litter the rest of the time. You both will probably be much happier.
I've been trying to keep him on a consistent schedule, but you are probably right - it will probably make both of us much happier! I think I've been stressing about this too much . Are your pups pad trained? I don't know much about the pee pads at all!
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Old 09-30-2010, 01:24 PM   #4
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The doggie litter box simply didn't work well for me because my Sadie would indeed do her business there, but would kick the litter out all over the place afterward. So I tried the puppy pads (which she used) but she tore them to pieces & I ended up cleaning that up all over also LOL. I finally called my breeder who suggested what she did when she had a new litter of puppies (Sadie included) & that has worked like a charm. She recommended I buy a goodly amount (at least a dozen) of very cheap towels from either a thrift store or walmart (I bought from walmart for a $1 a towel) & use that. Sadie took right to the towel, and Yes you do have to treat them sort of like baby diapers & wash them weekly but it saves me from having to run her outside so much.

Sadie is now over a year old (15 months old) & is still doing great with this method, and still does go outside when we can get out for a bit. I'm disabled & use a powered wheelchair so bad weather is out of the question for me to go out in, & this method worked really well for Sadie & myself.

I was willing to do whatever was necessary to make life easier for both me and my furbaby Best wishes with Levi, I'm sure he will adjust & life will become easier for you both...

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My little girl Sydney and my parents' girl Ginger are trained for outside or indoors. They both use pads inside a doggie litter box. Although our Yorkies are small, I still bought the large litter boxes so they have room to sniff and circle. I used the crate-training method and kept Sydney on a strict play, eat, drink, and potty schedule until she got use to the idea. You could also use washable potty pads inside the litter box. They work well, but can smell if you don't wash them right away.
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I'm sorry for your dilemma! I understand how frustrating it can be - I learned when I stayed in a hotel with Jackson for a few days. Jackson refused to use pads as a young pup, we did outdoor training from 9 weeks on. I honestly don't think he could ever be trained to pads- he's never been one to potty in a small space. We went camping once and set up 3 x-pens outside and my dads 2 dogs would potty in it, Jackson required to walk and sniff before going.

Personally, I would never go to pads after having an outdoor trained dog. What if you move again to a place with a yard, etc? I know it's more of a pain, but I think dogs adapt well. It took Jackson a day in the hotels but he learned to hold it and we got on a potty schedule. Also, like today it rained here all day so we were lazy and he slept most of the day. He went out at 6:30am, 12:30pm, 4:30pm and will probably go out two more times for the night. That's only 4-5 times per day.

Do you have any kind of porch? That's the only thing I could think of doing is making a porch with a few grass potty patches and making it so they still technically have to go outside. I did this during the big snow storm where we couldnt even walk outside, I let him go on our screened in porch that had a foot of snow on it and he went on it since it was like being outside (with the snow and all).
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my dogs are trained to go on pee pads, and i find this to be extremely convenient. because no matter where i take them, i know that they will go on the pee pad when they need to go potty. sometimes when we go for a long drive, if they need to go potty, i don't need to stop anywhere, i just put them in the backseat and put the pee pads down for them.

also when i have playdates with others, i can just put pee pads down and know that they will go there when they need to go potty, where as my friends outdoor trained dogs are always peeing on my carpet every time they play in my house because their mom didn't know that they had to go potty!

it's a personal preference though. and it also depends on your dog. i know some people have a hard time training their dog to use pee pads. i didn't have any trouble, it was pretty easy to train mine to use the pee pads. though milu is a little picky about the cleanliness of the pee pad, if i don't switch it frequently enough, she won't use it.
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We just returned with our two Yorkies from spending a couple nights in a hotel. What a difference using training pads in a litter box! My Yorkie Sydney first learned to potty outside. I then trained her on the pads inside. No problems. A pad was used a couple times in the car, too, during an emergency squirm and no place to go outside.

For us, it works.
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Thanks for all of the advice! I am still so conflicted! Levi isn't consistently having accidents (and every accident he has is by a door) - I am just not used to him having accidents at all!! I don't mind taking him out often, I just think it's less fun for him when he is constantly leashed and not allowed to run around as he pleases. But we've been taking more frequent trips to the dog park to make up for it.

My main reason for wanting to incorporate the pee pad is when I am gone for longer periods of time. But I wouldn't want the pee pad by my door...which is really the only place he has accidents. I guess I should put it where I want it to go...and then train him to use it? He is two now and has always been outdoor trained (as far as I know - he is a rescue, so I didn't have him as a puppy). So I am a bit concerned about confusing the heck out of him.

Brit - we do have a porch, but I don't really know anything about potty patches. Does anyone know if these actually work? For some reason, I thought they were just supposed to look nicer/more realistic than a pee pad. Are they even real grass? I am so confused, ha!
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My Rocki will only use the pee pads when he is confined to the Expen. When he's got the freedom of the house, or even just one room, he won't use the pad. He has accidents in the house too frequently. Won't walk if it's raining outside. Ugh Lucky for him he's cute.
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