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Old 08-31-2005, 09:46 AM   #1
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Bella is almost 1 yr. old and she still has accidents here and there. I don't know where I am going wrong about her training. I started taking her water away after the last time I take her out at nights last month and that's been working out great. She use to wake me up at 3 a.m. to go pee and then again at 7 a.m. Now, she'll sleep the whole night through and wake me up at 7 a.m. to pee. Well, that's been going fine but she'll still have accidents here and there, not a lot, but still, it's a problem. We did our regular thing this morning, I took her out at 7, she did her business, I got ready for work, and it's all ok. Well, my boyfriend just told me at 10 a.m. that she peed in our bedroom. How do I TEACH her not to do it? I realize what I've been doing is preventive, we take her out as much as possible to eliminate the peeing inside, but I don't know if she KNOWS that peeing INSIDE is not an option at all. Any help is totally appreciated! Thanks guys!
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Bella Bear - 1st of all, let me express my empathy to your plight. It seems that housebreaking (or lack thereof) is the #1 cause of stress.

Could you walk us thru your morning? You left a couple of steps out so I am not sure what you are doing, in order to help find ways to fix the problem.

What time do you leave for work? Do you take Bella out before you leave. Where does your boyfriend fit into the picture. Is he still there after you leave, or comes home after you leave? Is bella confined or have free range of the home? do you leave food and water out during the day? Are you pee pad training her or outside training her? (based on what you wrote, I assume you are taking her outside). Does she have access to outside when you are not there? Is there someone home with her while you are at work, like your boyfriend?

Maybe the question you are really asking is: Why doesn't she ask to go out when she has to go potty? (especially, at her age) Does she ask to go out sometimes, or are you making that decision for her, everytime?

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Do you feed her breakfast in the morning?

If you do, it might be why she pee later on in the day.

Also, since you know she is not 100% potty trained you have to keep a good eye on it.

This is what I do with my new BC that I adopted(which isn't 100% pottytrained). I close all the doors so she has only access to my bedroom, living room, hallway and kitchen. I keep an eye on her at all time when she is running around. When I'm at work, she is crated. At night, I close my bedroom door so she doesn't have access to any of the other rooms. I have her on a potty schedule so she knows when it is time to pee(unfortuantely, I have to go outside with her to make sure unlike my yorkies). And I did everything possible clean and mask the smell on my rub(remember dog can smell a drop of pee in your carpet).

It's a little bit more work on my part and but it will pay off in the long run. You might have to do something similar with your yorkie.

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Old 08-31-2005, 11:44 AM   #4
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Thanks for replying guys! Ok, here is the breakdown of the regular morning:

7 am- Bella wakes me up, I take her outside to potty
720is- We go back inside, she comes back into the room, jumps back into bed to lay with my boyfriend and our other dog, I get in the shower, get ready for work, etc.
8ish- boyfriend takes both dogs with him down stairs, they get water, food and hang out with him as he gets coffee, etc.
815ish- I leave the house and have no idea what happens after that!

When we are down staris on the first or second level, we close all the doors to the bedrooms up stairs on the third level so they only have access to the second and first level, which we can see them in plain view. My boyfriend said that she peed on the floor at about 930ish as he was about to hop into the shower. I dont know whats going on. She is crated while we are at work, she sleeps in the bed with us at night and we close the door to the bedroom and our bathroom so she doesnt roam beyond the room. I wonder if she just thinks its "ok" or something. Any help would be great! Thanks.

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When I brought Silk home she was already a year old. She was peeing every where. I made the stupid assumption that since she was a year old she was potty trained. But she was not potty trained to my house. So we had to start over. It has been 5 months and she is just now getting the potty outside concept down. When we wake up at 6am we go potty. One hour later before I get in the shower to go to work we go potty again. If she does not potty then she has to be confined to my bedroom where for some reason she does not potty in there. I think because I caught her squatting one time in my bedroom and I gave her a firm "no" and took her outside she got the idea pretty quick not to potty in my bedroom. However she had a favorite spot behind a chair in the family room. So when we are in there I watch her very closely. I also put down a doggie bed in that spot so she won't pee there. We go out alot at my house almost every hour when we first wake up and at least 3 times between 5-9pm. When she can't be watched we keep her in her kennel.
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Thanks for the info - does Bella ask to go out? Is the door for her to go out where you can see it, so that if she is standing there or going in that direction would your boyfriend see it.

do these accidents usually happen when only your boyfriend is alone with the dog or do they happen just as often with you there? After 2 hours from the last bathroom break and after breakfast an hour before, it's not unrealistic for Bella to have to go potty, so maybe your boyfriend can be more on a schedule. Perhaps you can ask him to take her out for another potty break before he gets in the shower if his routine is to shower around 9:30am.

I know that while Millie can hold 8 hours while I am at work and 7 -8 hours at night, it seems that she has to go potty with alarming frequency when she is not crated or confined. But Millie is only 4 months old.

Are you concerned and frustrated that after a year she has "not gotten it" (it's not ok to potty in the house?)

I really would like to know if Bella knows to go to the door to ask to go out. Has she demonstrated that she knows what to do? It may be a matter of just figuring out a way to get your attention while she is at the door and maybe you are not noticing. (like bells to ring).
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Also, she might not be empting her bladder all the way. I think silk was so happy to be up and running around at 6am that she would not finish peeing before she wanted to run back into the house. That is why we go back out an hour after she gets up to make sure she empties her bladder. Another thing that help is for her to learn to potty on command. when we go outside and I say "go potty" my two know exactly what I want them to do. So even if they really don't have to go they go so I know they won't come back into the house and pee. It is helpful when a rain storm is coming too!
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The front door is very visable for us when we are either on the second or third level of the condo. I cant say that Bella has gone to the door before to indicate that she has to go potty, we just take her as much as possible when we are home but some how, she still has accidents! She has about 1-2 accidents a week. Her accidents arent even by the door, so that makes me feel like she thinks she can basically go anywwhere she pleases when she needs to Is there a way I can teach her to go to the door to let me know? When we are home, she goes out once every 2-3 hours. I just feel like I'm missing a step some where. I know its my responsibility to "teach" her, but I guess I'm needing some teaching myself to teach her! HELP??? lol!
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I want to stress this point: I have never tried what I am about to tell you, but based on training books and training classes, this seems to be a logical step (but maybe it's not).

During those times that you are going to take her out, have her walk to the door with you, ask her if she wants to go "outside", have her sit by the door and give a treat at the door, before you open it. After you give her a treat, tell her she is a good girl, open the door and take her out to go potty (give her a treat to go potty or whatever you normally do).

I would do this every single time I take her out. Give her a treat for walking up to the door after you ask her if she wants to go "outside" and another one for going potty outside. She will at least begin to associate going to the door with treats and begin doing this for you. But hopefully at some point she will associate going to the door with going outside and outside is where she does her business.

The problem you may have is that she will go to the door even if she does not have to go to the bathroom, because she will want her treat. But I think that is still ok. You give her her treat, open the door and let her out for 5 minutes and bring her back in. (you will have to kind of taper off on this, because you do want her to associate going to the door with going outside potty).

After awhile you should be able to tell her she is a "good girl" instead of the treat.

But if it's any consolation, Millie knows to go to the door to go outside and potty, because she did it yesterday, but this a.m. she had a pee accident in the living room, about 8 feet to the side of the door.
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My only other suggestion is not to take her outside voluntarily. In other words, when you have time to spend around the house start watching her very closely. When she starts wandering around, get up and walk with her. See where she goes. Keep doing this. At some point she is going to have to go the bathroom. This is what you want. Wait until she has to go on her own. When you see her doing the pee sniff or the poo dance, or even when she is begining to squat, clap your hands say "NO" and immediately take her out. (and of course praise her when she finishes her business outside). I would do this several times. Wait until she actually has to go potty. Don't take her out unless she actually tells you she has to go, or until she is right in the begining of going, before you take her out. She may catch on quicker if she has "near accidents" and you correct her and direct her to the right place to go. Next time, she may think it thru, knowing she will get corrected for going in the house and treated for going out.
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Two things stand out here in my opinion. It is unlikely that she has trained her bladder. They can only train their bladder if you help them keep to a schedule. You did not indicate if your boyfriend takes her out after eating breakfast. It is essential that you take a dog out after eating a meal. You can wait 15 or 20 minutes but no longer than that.
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First just to make it easier on yourself you may want to teach her to go on command as Rem&Silkmom said. How I did this is I would take her out when I thought she needed to go tel her "go potty" wait for maybe 5 minutes then go back in no matter what. If while she was out she so much as sniffed the ground(a sign of going) I would start praising her. Then if she actually went I would really really praise her. If she didn't go then after about 10 minutes I would take her back out and do the whole thing again. I don't let her stay out too long, if we are out there for her to go potty then that's all she gets to do. She isn't going to stay out there all day smelling the wind(which she can do for 15 minutes nonstop).

Also one thing that I did, I don't know if anyone else did this or not. When Reagan would go inside I would take her to the spot tell her no then put her in her pet taxi, kind of a time out I guess. She wouldn't stay in for very long maybe 5-10 minutes sometimes I would forget about her and about 15-20 minutes later she kind of whine a little just to let me know she was still in there. A friend of mine told me that you don't want you dog to see you cleaning up after her(I don't know why) so this allowed me to clean up the mess with Reagan out of site. Also sometimes it was a time out for Reagan and sometimes it seemed like more of a time out for me, because sometimes when she would go on the floor I would get so frustrated (especially like now when she really knows better) so it allowed me time to clean it up without her and just kind of calm down. I honestly think this helps because at the point that we thought Reagan pretty much got it we kind of slacked up on the timeouts and I noticed that the more I slacked up the more accidents came. Again I don't know if anyone else did this or if anyone else would agree or even recommend it but it did seem to help for me. If you do decide to try the timeouts I hope they work. If not I hope you find another way that works for you.
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aahh...thanks for all the responses! Let me read them all then I will respond again. I just wanted to thank you first!
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