Judy Marksbury- Show Breeder

[JuliannaB]

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

I agree as well. Sending prayers for Max and Shelia and a Number One Husband medal for Rich.
Are there puppy lemon laws in your state? Buster came with kennel cough which verged on Pneumonia and they had to pay his medical bills for the treatment of kennel cough. They did not pay for his Giardia or Coccidia issues.

Nice! I love the icon you added.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

WOW.... EVERY STORY HAS TWO SIDES. You have no trouble with trashing the word of the OP where exactly is the proof from the breeder.

Exactly where is the trashing of the OP? I didn't even disagree with the OP...reread.

I have seen many of the same people here say the opposite...return the pup etc....merely an observation on my part.

I've only the word of the OP regarding a seemingly Reputable breeder. I've seen nothing other than her word, though I didn't say it was untrue so not sure what your alluding to?

The only facts that I can ascertain are that the OP met the breeder, chose a seemingly healthy pup, at some point the pup became ill, the OP decided to keep the pup and a breakdown in communication ensued between the parties. The contract was specific as to what was to be done, it wasn't done in this situation, OP admits this here and thus far there is no resolve.

My opinion, (set aside my own sincere sympathy for OP, OP's husband and this poor sick pup), is that this was a very sad and unfortunate occurrence that regardless of what the parties agree or disagree on there is still a sick pup. I don't believe that OP would have chosen a sick pup had the pup presented ill upon the selection? Nor do I believe that this "reputable" breeder would have sold the OP a sick pup, intentionally.

I do think that at this point the breeder needs to live up to her part in the contract. Obviously the pup is in good hands and the OP is taking good care of the pup that she has chosen to keep just as I did with Mini.

In the end all that matters is this pup gets well. I wish OP(s) the best and I sincerely hope this pup gets well soon.

Trashing? not at all, just my opinions.

OP please keep us posted on the outcome involving the breeder, I am anxious to see what she eventually decides to do. I also hope that you get well soon.

[Yorkieville200]

[quote=gemy;4349984]

Originally Posted by Yorkieville200

Gemy,

I sent you Maxwell's Sire & Dam information in a private message this morning, but I will post it here as well.

Sire:PELLERD-ORE TOP GUN
TR66899601 (2-09) BL & TN NONE (HUN)
AKC DNA #V484482

Dam:POTRAITS TREASURE O PELLERDORE
TR60763901 (8-09) BL & GLD


Search Results from eye registry CERF Registry/Breeder Options Lookup





No records found for current search criteria. I searched under the registration numbers on both dogs.

Thank you, Gemy.

Rich

I missed your post-trying to take care of things at home and go through this thread

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

AKC DNA on the sire is on all the paperwork for sires AKC registered that have been used for breeding in order to register that litter produced. A DNA profile is required on the sire only to register a litter produced by that sire. The DNA profile is for the purpose of ensuring that sire is indeed the sire of that litter should there be any doubt about the parentage of the progeny. If the dam is in doubt via the registration number for the dam, the owner of any of the progeny can file a complaint with the AKC who in turn can request the breeder to obtain a DNA profile and one would be provided for the pup to ensure that is indeed the dam.
DNA profiles are NEVER about genetic codes for health issues. Don't be fooled about what they actually are into thinking they ensure health, they do not.

Thank you, Lorraine.

Trying to answer posts for Sheila. Not easy.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

Since the sire was imported from another country (Hungary), the AKC requires that DNA be sent in to to them to give them an AKC registration number. Anytime an imported dog is registered with AKC they must be registered with a reputable registry from the country of origin, you have to send a front photo and side photo, and you must send in DNA.

Another reason you'll see DNA sometimes is because AKC will require that DNA be sent in on studs that have sired a certain number of litters.

Thank you My Fair Lacy.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by yorkiemini

Has anyone seen any vet reports.

I picked up 3 copies of Max's medical records today, when we took him to the Vet.

Judy will get one, even though she has never so much as asked about Maxwell.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by theporkieyorkie

I'd guess it has more to do with the $$$ almighty dollar $$$ than it does ego, pride or anything else

It's cheaper for her to just replace the puppy than it is to pay for Max's vet bills!!


This "disposable world" we live in can be so depressing!! I get sick of hearing about life being measured in dollar bills...it's not just dogs or animals in general either. It includes humans and ALL life really....

I promise you, I will take care of Maxwell.

He's not disposable to us. But it hasn't helped to buy a sick puppy.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

[quote=gemy;4349990]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

As a retired law enforcement officer, proof is a big key. Also, as a human being who also lives everyday with a life threatening diseased, the truth is the most important.
You are asking for an absolute resolution on your terms without providing any proof to the breeder. Mrs. Marksbury has agreed to honor her contract.

I believe that the owner should be getting that paperwork out shortly. It is reasonable for a breeder to request the results of tests that have shown a problem or problem(s) going on.

A second opinion for sure can be sought at the breeders expense, she can pick a board certified opthamologist within a reasonable travel distance to the purchaser. Should the purchasers vet health records and the current opthamologists consult report not be enough to satisfy the breeder.

As a breeder who would never knowingly breed a dog with a genetic condition I would gladly pay for that consult, especially seeing as I have done no CERF's according to the CERF registry on either one of the breeding pair. If this dry eye is autosomal recessive that means both these dogs carry the gene! And that by God I would want to know for sure that this puppy has this condition. If it is autosomal dominant, and some diseases can be, without full penetration throughout the litter, then at least one of the littermates from either sire or dam would have expressed this condition.

This is a life long condition, and maybe surgery (which will be expensive) just might correct it, but if not you are talking about drops for the lifetime of the dog.

Thank you, Gemy.

All medical records will go out this week. Breeder hasn't asked for them, but I am sending them.

Maxwell's left eye improved a little bit, but it is now in his right eye.

The Vet explained to Sheila, that the reason she knew to do the Schirmer tear test, was because Max's left eye was so dry.

Rich

[gemy]

Rich and Sheila and Max. It seems to me that the best thing right now for all, is to heal up; to focus on just doing those things that nuture and support you all.

You three will get through this, with all the love that you have for one another.

My prayers go out for you all!

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by theporkieyorkie

Does the YTCA every mediate things?? If the two parties don't communicate, nothing is going to be resolved.

I wish the breeder would have taken the puppy back when the husband ask for his refund and was willing to give the puppy back~this would have saved all parties involved from a bunch of heartache.


BTW...I think the breeder did offer her a pup from a different litter on here. She may have not did it in her email, but I am fairly certain she said it on here....but she did not offer to refund her money.

EDIT TO ADD: Looking back...yes she did say a pup from any litter and she offered to have it vet checked and certified.

The breeder has only offered us a littermate.

We hesitated to take a littermate, due to the fact that there may well be other congenital issues in that litter.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by yorkiefan_

That's awesome to hear, Rich. And that's awesome that you, Sheila, and Max have each other.

Believe me, Chris-I am blessed to have Sheila.

I just wish I hadn't convinced her to make the trip to see the puppies.

But, I will take care of Sheila and Max.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

I agree as well. Sending prayers for Max and Shelia and a Number One Husband medal for Rich.
Are there puppy lemon laws in your state? Buster came with kennel cough which verged on Pneumonia and they had to pay his medical bills for the treatment of kennel cough. They did not pay for his Giardia or Coccidia issues.

Thank you for your prayers. We really appreciate prayers. I don't know if I deserve such a medal, but Sheila makes it easy to be a good husband.

No puppy lemon laws in Indiana.

Never expected to need a law.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by gemy

Rich and Sheila and Max. It seems to me that the best thing right now for all, is to heal up; to focus on just doing those things that nuture and support you all.

You three will get through this, with all the love that you have for one another.

My prayers go out for you all!

Yes, Gemy-we will get through all of it.

Thank you for your prayers and your kindness towards my wife.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by JuliannaB

Certainly holding my breathe here for all of you. Hope that the drops resolve the problem. Gosh, with all the love you have pouring out and into this little darling means anything, Max should surely be well and all this would disappear! Darn! I feel for the three of you. As someone posted earlier than mine, so glad that you all have each other. I just wish that it would end happily... soon!!!! Truly all the very best to you and yours! Huge hugs coming down from Canada.

Julianna,

You have really been nice. We're praying hard for Max, and we are fortunate to have a great Vet.

We're sending you big hugs from Indiana.

Rich

[bjh]

Sending prayers for Max and Sheila. I pray both feel better soon.