Judy Marksbury- Show Breeder

[Patti]

Originally Posted by Yorkieville200

Sheila managed her tiny Kia in full coat. And when she couldn't bathe her, I bathed and groomed her.

Everyone, including myself, felt another puppy would be good for her.

Breeder is only offering another puppy, and that's no an option.

Rich

Kia and Sydney were kept in beautiful show coat. You could see Kia could have been a show dog if not for her size. I thought you both did an excellent job on grooming. I felt Sheila would benefit from another puppy as well. She had so much love to give. I hope Max can be treated and lives a long and healthy life with you and Sheila.

[lynzy420]

Rich,
Thank you for sharing this full side of the story. Much easier to understand this way.

Also, I have extensive experience with MS, very extensive and all the various ways it affects various people. I've seen the high end and the low end and everything in between. Right now Sheila should not concern herself with anything other than her health and Max.

As someone who has had to cut my losses and walk away because I wanted to keep my pup, sometimes its just easier, I have absolutely no regrets.

I do believe YOU have an opportunity to resolve this with the breeder. I think the It is unfortunate all the way around and I feel for all those involved, especially Max.

I will pray for each of you.

Lynzy

[yorkiefan_]

Originally Posted by Yorkieville200

And although right now, Sheila can't get down on the floor and play with him-he loves playing on her bed.

He adores her!

Rich

That's so awesome to hear you guys are bonding well! I was scared it was really hard for Sheila to spend time with little Maxwell.

[shelbysmom]

Originally Posted by Yorkieville200

Sheila managed her tiny Kia in full coat. And when she couldn't bathe her, I bathed and groomed her.

Everyone, including myself, felt another puppy would be good for her.

Breeder is only offering another puppy, and that's no an option.

Rich

I think that's a pretty common option, not sure what else you want. It sounds like you made the decision to keep him even though his Vet check didn't go well. I would get a second opinion from an eye specialist just to be sure the diagnosis and treatment is correct. I lost my Shelby recently, I know a puppy will be good for me, just need to be sure "I" am in the right place for the puppy. It' a huge responsibility, I wish you all the best.

[k9lover]

I emailed Rich yesterday and finally got a response tonight. I have had to learn what is happening to Max here on the internet since they will not email me. As a breeder I should of been sent all vet info as soon as the puppy was seen. I have a 48 hour return policy where a full cash refund would have been given. These owners would not return him and as the weeks past and emails went back and forth between Shelia and myself ,The only info I had was that there might be a dry eye problem and there would need to be more appointments.Not that you need to know but for three weeks in October my husband of 44 years was in critical condition in the hospital and my mind was not on my dogs Yes I did send the wrong picture and yes it was not on purpose as you have been lead to believe. I had a file mislabeled and did not change for several weeks I own the son of the dog in the picture,his name is Gusto, I told them all along I would take Max back and give them his sister and in the last email to Rich I offered them another male puppy from a different sire and dam because they were concerned the sister might have the same problem .I don't know any of you and you don't know me,but the the negative comments that Max shoudnt come home to me ,is unbelievable My vet and I will manage his condition as I should be the one to take care of him. I love all my dogs and sell all my puppies with all shots given at 16 weeks and a spay-neuter agreement to protect them.The contract also states that all owners must contact me in the event they can no longer keep their baby. I will always take them back .I have a 2 year old girl with me now that the owner just died and she came back to me. I will keep her until and if and when I fine the right new home .In the email Rich sent me tonight they have decided to keep Max so they are choosing to break the contract.I love Max and always will.. I will always take him back anytime I hope for everyone Max is fine.

[bchgirl]

So a contract was signed that specified the remedies but now you object...is that correct?

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by Patti

Kia and Sydney were kept in beautiful show coat. You could see Kia could have been a show dog if not for her size. I thought you both did an excellent job on grooming. I felt Sheila would benefit from another puppy as well. She had so much love to give. I hope Max can be treated and lives a long and healthy life with you and Sheila.

Thank you, Patti.

Yes, Susan really wanted to see Sheila take Kia into the Show ring. She said Sheila was so petite & pretty and she and Kia made a perfect match.

She asked Sheila to wait until Kia was 10 months old to spay her, just in case she grew. She was really disappointed that Kia didn't get big enough, but always told Sheila she was so proud of her for keeping Kia in full coat.

Patti, our Vet is really well-educated, and between her, and Sheila and I-and prayer, I want to believe that Max will love a long and healthy life.

He loves when I take him in to see Sheila in the morning. He kisses her good morning, and snuggles up in her arms. He puts one paw on her cheek, as he kisses her.

Rich

[gemy]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

So a contract was signed that specified the remedies but now you object...is that correct?

I think that this is true, as has been previously detailed out. There has been much back n forth here on this thread.

Hopefully one of the morals of the story for a purchaser is, don't sign a contract you do not think is a good one from your point of view. Insist on viewing a contract up front, and taking the time to take this contract to your lawyer. For sure your breeder has taken their standard contract to their lawyer prior to sending it out to would be purchasers.

If the return of your puppy and then a replacement puppy is your only option for serious diseases whether or not they be life threatening, it is not much of an option for the purchaser.

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by k9lover

This post is for Rich, I emailed him last night to ask him, again for the documents form his vet and to speak with his vet, I have NEVER heard anything. I have NO information. I should of been included in Maxes health care from the start and I have not been. I am at the bottom of the list as far as being shown these documents. In my email last night I offered to take MAX back and I would manage his health care with my vet. I have offered them another puppy from a different litter because they didn't want Maxes sister, I understand their concerns. I will supply a health certificate for the new puppy .My contract was read and signed by these owners I am trying to honor the contract we all signed. I have to get on here to see what is happening and as the breeder I find it sad. I love my puppies and I did not know this baby had a dry eye problem, They spent 3 hours with Max at my house and they didn't see it either? I have NEVER had this problem in 35 years. I know it is a problem in our breed I just have never had this in my dogs. Also one more thing you need to know, During 3 weeks in October my husband of 44 years was in the hospital for critical health problems. All of my communications for that time were done from my phone and in a hospital room.I take responsibility for my dogs ,that is why I want Max returned. You guys don't know me and I don't know you ,so please lets stop talking about what if and just return my puppy as per my contract. If Rich wants to post lasts nights email sent to him he has my permission. Thank you

I read your e-mail this afternoon, after we got back from the appt. with the attorney. I replied and said I would mail you copies of all of Maxwell's medical records tomorrow, with a tracking number.

It's the FIRST time that you ever asked for any of Maxwell's medical records.

Sheila e-mailed you with every single diagnosis, on the dates that our Vet saw Maxwell.

All you ever did was say you were sorry, you didn't know he had this issue/that issue.

And as I said in my e-mail-Maxwell is staying here. We don't want a different puppy from you.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by shelbysmom

I think that's a pretty common option, not sure what else you want. It sounds like you made the decision to keep him even though his Vet check didn't go well. I would get a second opinion from an eye specialist just to be sure the diagnosis and treatment is correct. I lost my Shelby recently, I know a puppy will be good for me, just need to be sure "I" am in the right place for the puppy. It' a huge responsibility, I wish you all the best.

We don't want anything else. Sheila posted the review to spare anyone else the heartache.

Yes, we made the decision to keep him. Vet and Ophthalmologist are working together.

We trust both.

Thank you for wishing us all the best.

Rich

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by JuliannaB

I sure hope that ALL of this gets resolved soon... for everyone involved; especially Max, and that he continues to get the medical attention he so needs/deserves, and that he is on his way back to being totally healthy. I find it hard just reading the back and forth and can feel all the stress building with each post. Surely no one needs this extra stress!! I do realize that I don't have to read them, but am in the hopes of a positive outcome. Hugs all around.

Julianna,

As far as I'm concerned-this situation is resolved. I replied to the breeders e-mail this afternoon, said I would send her the medical reports, and we are keeping Maxwell.

I guarantee he is going to get the medical attention he needs and so deserves.

God answers prayers-so we put our faith in Him, to guide us in caring for Maxwell.

Hugs right back at you from Sheila & I.

Maxwell sends sweet puppy kisses.

Rich

[gemy]

Originally Posted by k9lover

This post is for Rich, I emailed him last night to ask him, again for the documents form his vet and to speak with his vet, I have NEVER heard anything. I have NO information. I should of been included in Maxes health care from the start and I have not been. I am at the bottom of the list as far as being shown these documents. In my email last night I offered to take MAX back and I would manage his health care with my vet. I have offered them another puppy from a different litter because they didn't want Maxes sister, I understand their concerns. I will supply a health certificate for the new puppy .My contract was read and signed by these owners I am trying to honor the contract we all signed. I have to get on here to see what is happening and as the breeder I find it sad. I love my puppies and I did not know this baby had a dry eye problem, They spent 3 hours with Max at my house and they didn't see it either? I have NEVER had this problem in 35 years. I know it is a problem in our breed I just have never had this in my dogs. Also one more thing you need to know, During 3 weeks in October my husband of 44 years was in the hospital for critical health problems. All of my communications for that time were done from my phone and in a hospital room.I take responsibility for my dogs ,that is why I want Max returned. You guys don't know me and I don't know you ,so please lets stop talking about what if and just return my puppy as per my contract. If Rich wants to post lasts nights email sent to him he has my permission. Thank you

I am confused about the bolded statement that you will supply a health certificate... Huh don't you regularly vet check all your puppies and supply a health record for each puppy to your purchasers? It is standard practice here in Canada. We have a three fold folder entitled Puppy's Health Records, and for each puppy we bring into the vet it is filled out, and then usually 48 hrs prior to puppy departure we visit our vet again for final wellness check. THat record is signed by our vet including their printed name address and contact numbers, the microchip information usually affixed to the file as well.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

The sad truth is, the OP started not one but 3 threads defaming an ethical and responsible breeder without sending all information to the breeder. Whether the breeder asked for records or not, it is up to the new puppy parent to supply the breeder of the veterinarians findings. Without this, the breeder has no way of knowing how to proceed. If this was a first time breeding of this pair, all of the OP's accusations may be justified to an extent however, in past breedings, 9 offspring, this is the first and only complaint. This puppy has only been diagnosed from a vet who has never seen this before. The puppy has not been SEEN by some one who specializes in this area. Even though, another request has been made, it is my understanding still, at this time the records have not been sent.

I agree with you! I believe at this point the breeder and yes I have met the breeder and like her and I truly believe this all needs to continue off line now!! I also believe the breeder wouldn't have knowingly sold a sick puppy! And I believe the buyer should have sent medical documentation when it first arose I know I would if I had a sick puppy! I'm not trying to disrespect anyone just stating what I've read throughout this whole thread! Buyers and breeders need to protect themselves!

Donna Bird

[Buster Brown]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

Exactly where is the trashing of the OP? I didn't even disagree with the OP...reread.

I actually did reread your post and I admit that I was wrong and that you did not trash the OP my apologies. I became upset over the only see one side and and no proof of anything other than the word of the OP and misinterpreted what you said regarding the word of the OP. Sorry Lynzy.

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

Rich,
Thank you for sharing this full side of the story. Much easier to understand this way.

Also, I have extensive experience with MS, very extensive and all the various ways it affects various people. I've seen the high end and the low end and everything in between. Right now Sheila should not concern herself with anything other than her health and Max.

As someone who has had to cut my losses and walk away because I wanted to keep my pup, sometimes its just easier, I have absolutely no regrets.

I do believe YOU have an opportunity to resolve this with the breeder. I think the It is unfortunate all the way around and I feel for all those involved, especially Max.

I will pray for each of you.

Lynzy

Lynzy,

You're very welcome. I was getting dizzy trying to make sure I answered posts for Sheila.

MS is an insidious disease. Sheila's diagnosis came too late for meds to help her. And the side effects were making another one of her health conditions worse.

I'm making sure she rests-I'm keeping the stress away from her as much as possible.

We feel the same way-we're keeping Max and he's happy here. He's getting the best of medical care.

I resolved things this afternoon with this breeder. She finally sent an e-mail and asked for Maxwell's medical records. She offered us another puppy, and I declined.

I feel that with the health issues he came home with at 4 months of age, are better taken care of by our Vet and Ophthalmologist.

Maxwell is in good hands-he is in the hands of his Creator.

And we pray for guidance.

Rich