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LaviniaHyacynth · 02-24-2006, 12:00 PM

Yorkierose,Yes, I do have access to the breeder. Also Elizabeth would take my dog in if something happened and I couldn't keep her.She has taken in many rescue dogs and placed them in loving forever homes. I am not the spokesperson for brokers but as someone said earlier...blanket statements are stereotypical.Unless someone knows every single broker first hand they really shouldn't condemn them all without at least hearing the other side first. I really need to avoid this thread.I know that in many cases brokers are not good but in my case it worked out great. I would not hesitate to return to Elizabeth and the original breeder for another puppy.The original question on this thread was to find out if there was such a thing as a good broker and in my case and since I have the actual experience of working with one...the answer is yes.

YorkieRose · 02-24-2006, 12:33 PM

Thank you for posting this...we see the defination of a broker according to AKC is not what you have dealt with. Most brokers buy from commercical breeders through a Huntt type corp..very, very different then what you have in your friend. Best wishes

shyorkies · 02-24-2006, 12:37 PM

To me there is only one definition of a Broker: One who buys up pups and than resells them for more money than they purchased them for.. You can not compare someone that helps someone find a nice pup or someone that may advertise a puppy on their site for someone else.. You also cannot compare someone that purchases a puppy for show or their breeding program and the puppy falls apart and they place them into a loving pet home..

I have seen many times on this forum when people have more or less referred to someone as a broker.. They may not have said broker, but that is exactly what they were referring to.. To me a broker is a awful person with only money in mind and not the welfare of the puppies they have bought up to make alot of money off of! JMO..

Sherry Lynn · 02-24-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LaviniaHyacynth

I really hope that those of you that are so angry about brokers will at least try to see where I am coming from..I am trying not to take this personally because rationally I know it has nothing to do with me...but my heart is involved and we all know how irrational that can make you. I am grateful everyday for Divapup and Elizabeth Mandarino. If I had not found them then I would not have my precious dog. I sit here and write this with Vivi curled up by my side and the thought of that brings tears to my eyes.

I didn't mean to offend you. It sounds to me like you had a great experience. Had the broker we dealt with treated us that way, I would have had no complaints. And, I'm going to guess people don't protest outside of 'your' broker's place of business like they now do at 'my' brokers place!

bigdog · 02-24-2006, 12:52 PM

Hopefully noone is upset because a question was ask about brokers vs breeders. everyone is just giving their own opinion. I didn't mean to offend anyone if i did.The brokers at least most of them here in Missouri are just out for the money not for the poor dog. I'm sure all of you have heard rumers from Missouri. I live here and certainly know a lot about some of these brokers and breeders. Thats all i have to say.Not saying that your broker isn't a good caring person. Glad you found your little friend and she has a good mommy.

luvdorkyyorkies · 02-24-2006, 12:55 PM

Shyorkies,
This is directed right at you.
To me a broker is a awful person with only money in mind and not the welfare of the puppies they have bought up to make alot of money off of! JMO..
That is your quote.

hasrv4fun · 02-24-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

We can not put a breeder and a broker in the same sentence, let alone catogory. Brokers are in the business of accqiring pups for resale..they do not breed these pups, but merely "collect" and "deliver". Yorkie Club code of ethic's addresses dealing with brokers..if you do, you can not be or remain a member.

reneernc · 02-24-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LaviniaHyacynth

Yorkierose,Yes, I do have access to the breeder. Also Elizabeth would take my dog in if something happened and I couldn't keep her.She has taken in many rescue dogs and placed them in loving forever homes. I am not the spokesperson for brokers but as someone said earlier...blanket statements are stereotypical.Unless someone knows every single broker first hand they really shouldn't condemn them all without at least hearing the other side first. I really need to avoid this thread.I know that in many cases brokers are not good but in my case it worked out great. I would not hesitate to return to Elizabeth and the original breeder for another puppy.The original question on this thread was to find out if there was such a thing as a good broker and in my case and since I have the actual experience of working with one...the answer is yes.

Why does the breeder use a broker?

PlatinumYorkies · 02-24-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shyorkies

To me there is only one definition of a Broker: One who buys up pups and than resells them for more money than they purchased them for.. You can not compare someone that helps someone find a nice pup or someone that may advertise a puppy on their site for someone else.. You also cannot compare someone that purchases a puppy for show or their breeding program and the puppy falls apart and they place them into a loving pet home..

I have seen many times on this forum when people have more or less referred to someone as a broker.. They may not have said broker, but that is exactly what they were referring to.. To me a broker is a awful person with only money in mind and not the welfare of the puppies they have bought up to make alot of money off of! JMO..

So you aren't a broker, or are you saying you are one??? I am confused

shyorkies · 02-24-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

Shyorkies,
This is directed right at you.
To me a broker is a awful person with only money in mind and not the welfare of the puppies they have bought up to make alot of money off of! JMO..
That is your quote.

Excuse me.. Would you like to elaborate on that?

shyorkies · 02-24-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumYorkies

So you aren't a broker, or are you saying you are one??? I am confused

NO I am certainly NOT a broker! I think brokers, pet stores, backyard breeders and puppy mills are awful people with only money in mind and not the welfare of the puppies they are going around buying up!

The only time I have ever placed a yorkie NOT of my breeding was if the puppy fell apart and could not be used in my program.. If you are a breeder who loves the breed and breeds to the AKC standard you never breed genetic defects into your dogs.. example, Liver Shunt, Luxating Patellas, Collapsed tracheas, hernias, etc.. The only point I was trying to get accross was there are times a reputable breeder or reputable show breeder places a dog not of their breeding that does not fit into their program and needs to be strictly in a pet home and that does NOT classify them as a broker.. Hope I made that clearer..

luvdorkyyorkies · 02-24-2006, 01:22 PM

Well sometimes ............ people get in a bind.
Let me emphasize.....Im not a broker. But a friend of mine got in a bind.....long hours...crazy work schedule....no sleep........very stressed.......taking care of grandkids. She asked if I would help take care of her puppies. I did. I was glad too.
Very nice puppies....... I found them nice homes.........I made a very small profit and I helped someone in need. The owners are happy, Im pleased and my friend had alot of stress off her.
So brokers are not the blood sucking vampires you may think they are.....
Oh some may be! But our experience was one of best intent.

PlatinumYorkies · 02-24-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shyorkies

NO I am certainly NOT a broker! I think brokers, pet stores, backyard breeders and puppy mills are awful people with only money in mind and not the welfare of the puppies they are going around buying up!

The only time I have ever placed a yorkie NOT of my breeding was if the puppy fell apart and could not be used in my program.. If you are a breeder who loves the breed and breeds to the AKC standard you never breed genetic defects into your dogs.. example, Liver Shunt, Luxating Patellas, Collapsed tracheas, hernias, etc.. The only point I was trying to get accross was there are times a reputable breeder or reputable show breeder places a dog not of their breeding that does not fit into their program and needs to be strictly in a pet home and that does NOT classify them as a broker.. Hope I made that clearer..

I must have been mistaken, I thought you said you were or that you have done this more than the one time you are speaking of now.

shyorkies · 02-24-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

Well sometimes ............ people get in a bind.
Let me emphasize.....Im not a broker. But a friend of mine got in a bind.....long hours...crazy work schedule....no sleep........very stressed.......taking care of grandkids. She asked if I would help take care of her puppies. I did. I was glad too.
Very nice puppies....... I found them nice homes.........I made a very small profit and I helped someone in need. The owners are happy, Im pleased and my friend had alot of stress off her.
So brokers are not the blood sucking vampires you may think they are.....
Oh some may be! But our experience was one of best intent.

You are not a broker!! You are a kind and loving person that helped someone in need.. You were a wonderful friend to help her out and she done the right thing by doing the right thing by you.. Bless you..

txshopper73 · 02-24-2006, 01:31 PM

I know of someone that purchased a couple of females out of the newspaper...under $1k each. Kept them for a a week or two and then resold them at a much higher price. Would this person be considered a broker???

02-24-2006, 12:00 PM	#46
LaviniaHyacynth Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: montclair,nj Posts: 925	Yorkierose,Yes, I do have access to the breeder. Also Elizabeth would take my dog in if something happened and I couldn't keep her.She has taken in many rescue dogs and placed them in loving forever homes. I am not the spokesperson for brokers but as someone said earlier...blanket statements are stereotypical.Unless someone knows every single broker first hand they really shouldn't condemn them all without at least hearing the other side first. I really need to avoid this thread.I know that in many cases brokers are not good but in my case it worked out great. I would not hesitate to return to Elizabeth and the original breeder for another puppy.The original question on this thread was to find out if there was such a thing as a good broker and in my case and since I have the actual experience of working with one...the answer is yes. __________________ Rest in peace my sweet angel dog, Lavinia Hyacynth, Vivi. I love you forever. Bear healed my broken heart!

02-24-2006, 12:37 PM	#48
shyorkies Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: midwest Posts: 572	Brokers To me there is only one definition of a Broker: One who buys up pups and than resells them for more money than they purchased them for.. You can not compare someone that helps someone find a nice pup or someone that may advertise a puppy on their site for someone else.. You also cannot compare someone that purchases a puppy for show or their breeding program and the puppy falls apart and they place them into a loving pet home.. I have seen many times on this forum when people have more or less referred to someone as a broker.. They may not have said broker, but that is exactly what they were referring to.. To me a broker is a awful person with only money in mind and not the welfare of the puppies they have bought up to make alot of money off of! JMO.. __________________ Melanie~

02-24-2006, 01:31 PM	#60
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	I know of someone that purchased a couple of females out of the newspaper...under $1k each. Kept them for a a week or two and then resold them at a much higher price. Would this person be considered a broker??? __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

02-24-2006, 12:33 PM	#47
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	Thank you for posting this...we see the defination of a broker according to AKC is not what you have dealt with. Most brokers buy from commercical breeders through a Huntt type corp..very, very different then what you have in your friend. Best wishes

02-24-2006, 12:52 PM	#50
bigdog YT Addict Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 347 Blog Entries: 1	Hopefully noone is upset because a question was ask about brokers vs breeders. everyone is just giving their own opinion. I didn't mean to offend anyone if i did.The brokers at least most of them here in Missouri are just out for the money not for the poor dog. I'm sure all of you have heard rumers from Missouri. I live here and certainly know a lot about some of these brokers and breeders. Thats all i have to say.Not saying that your broker isn't a good caring person. Glad you found your little friend and she has a good mommy.

02-24-2006, 12:55 PM	#51
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Shyorkies, This is directed right at you. To me a broker is a awful person with only money in mind and not the welfare of the puppies they have bought up to make alot of money off of! JMO.. That is your quote.

02-24-2006, 01:22 PM	#57
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Well sometimes ............ people get in a bind. Let me emphasize.....Im not a broker. But a friend of mine got in a bind.....long hours...crazy work schedule....no sleep........very stressed.......taking care of grandkids. She asked if I would help take care of her puppies. I did. I was glad too. Very nice puppies....... I found them nice homes.........I made a very small profit and I helped someone in need. The owners are happy, Im pleased and my friend had alot of stress off her. So brokers are not the blood sucking vampires you may think they are..... Oh some may be! But our experience was one of best intent.