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01-09-2014, 12:02 PM | #16 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Switzerland
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| I'm living in Switzerland now and it's against the law to dock their tails so all the little yorkies have them. I LOVE my girl's tail - I need to learn how to work this forum better to attach pictures. It's so cute and adds to her personality a ton since it wags incessantly when she is happy and excited. |
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01-09-2014, 12:08 PM | #17 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member | I love the tails. That is one reason of many I got a Biewer.
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01-09-2014, 01:11 PM | #18 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member | Most of these people do not know a boy from a girl. . . . I can dress him in a grey and black skull sweater and a black with flames bow. But just because he has a bow in his hair doesn't make him a girl. . . . Slap a bow on them and tell them he is a girl jk
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01-09-2014, 02:03 PM | #19 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: omaha,ne,usa
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| thank you to everyone for the perspective. The deadline for a decision was today and your thoughts helped me to follow my heart. I am peaceful with my decision to leave the tails and trust the will find perfect homes when that time comes. Although I have no idea how I will part with them when the time comes. I do like the look of medium and full tails...it just came down to not feeling like I have the right to take something given by The Creator. I to hope it becomes more accepted. Thank you all both opposed and for full tails... |
01-09-2014, 08:59 PM | #20 | |
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01-10-2014, 06:51 AM | #21 | |
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I do object to a rigid breed "standard" that calls for cutting off a dog's tail. I think "standard" should be evaluated with all of the animal's natural parts intact, not after surgical cosmetic alterations. Again, this is personal preference, and you're very welcome to yours. I will fight any attempt to make it a legislative matter.
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01-10-2014, 12:45 PM | #22 | |
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01-11-2014, 11:55 AM | #23 | |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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The breed standard has existed for many years, set down as a template for breeders to use as a pattern, to preserve what Old World breeders formulated years ago as what Yorkies will look like as a breed. While I personally like long tails, I honor all the fabulous breeders that have "designed" the Yorkie standard and I will appreciate and adhere to the "rule book", so to speak. If and when the breed standard is changed, I will comply with that template. Hopefully, changes will not be implemented on the whims of animal rights activists. Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 01-11-2014 at 11:57 AM. | |
01-11-2014, 03:11 PM | #25 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NJ
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| My BFF grew up in Texas and has family there, she spent her teen years in NJ, went to college in Boston, and is back in Texas for Grad school. Her parents spent most of their lives in PA/NJ. She wants to live in NYC. She has said many times that Tx is much more conservative than the Boston or NJ. Not back woods, just conservative. I asked her what she thought about the undocked tails and she said she's not surprised they went over better in the north east. She doesn't like the docked tails, she thinks it's cruel. I don't know if it's true or not but it seems like yorkies are more popular in the north east too. It's very hard to find any small dogs in shelters and it seems like the yorkie rescues only have older teapots (8+ years, 10+ pounds) or dogs with medical problems. I guess my preference is for a medium length tail, Lola's is about an inch long and I wish it were longer. An undocked tail wouldn't stop me from getting a dog. I showed my Grandmom an undocked tail and she said "eww that's terrible!!" But she also thinks it's terrible when people keep their yorkie's hair short. She has very particular ideas about the way yorkies should look. |
01-11-2014, 04:08 PM | #26 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Mesquite, TX
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| I had someone offer me an outrageous amount of money for the puppy I kep her tail.... I am not selling her, but thought it strange that she offered so much-she said she hasn't been able to find a breeder that would leave a tail that didn't already have a 2 yr waiting list.
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01-11-2014, 04:18 PM | #27 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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| Congrats to your BFF successfully attending grad school here in Texas, enabling her to go ANYWHERE in the coutry she chooses to practice her occupation. Yes, Texas is conservative, and more traditional I think, and just as we all have our preferences in all aspects of our lives, we love it that way! If it aint broke, we are more apt to not go monkeying with it. In pet homes, I love floppy eared, long tailed teapots, but I wouldnt want to see that in our shows as a standard image for a Yorkie. As far as docking tails being "cruel", it isn't cruel....maybe not a particular preference, but not cruel. I think your Grandma is very typical...."she has very particular ideas how Yorkies should look". Are people that are against docking also against cutting off toes.....dew claw removal? What about castrating males.....cruel? If docking and dewclaw removal and castration is done with a meat cleaver, when the dog is 8 months old, I agree....cruel. |
01-11-2014, 04:51 PM | #28 | |
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| I forgot to add before, if a breeder asked me if I wanted the tail left undocked and couldn't back out if I did, I'd say no. I'd only say yes if it were an all or nothing deal, the whole litter gets docked or left alone. My reason is I wouldn't want someone else picking out a 2 day old puppy for me. I got to choose between Lola and her sister. I don't think I'd be nearly as happy with her sister. Lola has this beautiful spark in her eye, her sister didn't. Quote:
She thinks it's cruel because she sees it as unnecessary pain and doesn't know much about the way it's done. She loves dogs but she's only owned one as a kid and it hated her. I think dew claw removal is more acceptable because it's more functional. My poodles were constantly getting their's caught. My Grandmom was told docking tails was functional too, because the long tail would break/couldn't wag/would mess up the dogs balance. | |
01-11-2014, 08:12 PM | #29 |
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| I hope you got the dew claws removed because those can cause big problems.
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01-12-2014, 03:49 AM | #30 | |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Mesquite, TX
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I agree about having someone else picking the puppy for you. And I would hate to not dock a tail and had a potential buyer back out, and not be able to sell that particular puppy. As Yorkiemom1 stated, she had problems selling her undocked litter. Dew claw removal wasn't as hard for me to watch as the tail docking, however my son was horrified that they cauterize the dew claws-he has/had frequent nosebleeds and had his nose cauterized on several occasions and said its extremely uncomfortable, so he can't imagine it on a little 4 oz puppy. They didn't squeal as much with the dew claws as they did with the tails, but she also used a scalpel to remove the tails and then stitched the end.
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