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Old 12-23-2005, 11:40 PM   #16
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I'm not going to get her spay until I know she is not pregnant. sorry.... My female is 2 yrs old... Well I'm glad you keep your males competely away from your females. and I'm glad u haven't had an accident breeding happen to you.
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Sad I think what these people are trying to say...

I think these very knowledgeable people are trying to tell you that you should not let your tiny girl carry to term. Even if she is pregnant, you should spay her to prevent the pups from being born. Yes it sounds harsh, but if you truly care about your little girl and you have her best interest at heart, then you should spay her. This might just save her life.

I am sorry that you have to go through this. Best of luck.
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First rule of animal care...do what is best for the animal, not your feelings.
I do wish you the best and honestly understand your emotional decision.
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I'm not going to get her spay until I know she is not pregnant. sorry.... My female is 2 yrs old... Well I'm glad you keep your males competely away from your females. and I'm glad u haven't had an accident breeding happen to you.
I think from the responses that some may have HAD accidental breedings and already learned this lesson the hard way....In my opinion ....it sounds like they are trying to help keep you from having a heartbreak ....

I wish you the best of luck and hopefully you'll see the reply's for what they are - People looking out for a little yorkie girl and hoping nothing happens to her.....Good Luck !!
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I think these very knowledgeable people are trying to tell you that you should not let your tiny girl carry to term. Even if she is pregnant, you should spay her to prevent the pups from being born. Yes it sounds harsh, but if you truly care about your little girl and you have her best interest at heart, then you should spay her. This might just save her life.

I am sorry that you have to go through this. Best of luck.
I agree with this.

I'm sure its probably hard for you, but I know you love your little girl! Why would you risk her life with this? It can be very dangerous for such a small dog to carry and deliver a litter of puppies. I agree with what other people posted, its in her best interest to Spay her NOW. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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First rule of animal care...do what is best for the animal, not your feelings.
I do wish you the best and honestly understand your emotional decision.


My vet always says: "First Do No Harm To The Animal" and many decisions were made based on this. When you are involved with rescue many animals came in with many different problems and we always had to look at the pro's and con's of what was going on with each animal BUT we always made the decision to take care of the little dog we were holding and not the future dogs she could or did have.
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I have been quite long enough. The very people that are telling you what an awful thing you have let happen claim they do not & would not breed small Yorkies. Well if they do not then they do not have any experience breeding small Yorkies. I have bred small Yorkies for 20 years. I have never lost a mama, not even come close. I have never had one in trouble other than having to have a c-section. The small ones carry just as easy as a larger one, & yes I have bred larger Yorkies also so I have expertise in larger ones also. I have never had a Yorkie less than 4 lbs have 5 pups so I cannot give advice there. I would not consider letting her have them naturally. A c-section is not that hard on the female, a difficult birth is & also is dangerous. If you will just watch her closely & schedule a c-section I think she will be fine. You do need a backup vet. I also have never had any of the monstrous expenses I have read about. There are a lot of people on this board that breed small Yorkies, they just don't post b/c they don't want to be bad mouthed. I have my hard hat on so I am ready for you girls.
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I have been quite long enough. The very people that are telling you what an awful thing you have let happen claim they do not & would not breed small Yorkies. Well if they do not then they do not have any experience breeding small Yorkies. I have bred small Yorkies for 20 years. I have never lost a mama, not even come close. I have never had one in trouble other than having to have a c-section. The small ones carry just as easy as a larger one, & yes I have bred larger Yorkies also so I have expertise in larger ones also. I have never had a Yorkie less than 4 lbs have 5 pups so I cannot give advice there. I would not consider letting her have them naturally. A c-section is not that hard on the female, a difficult birth is & also is dangerous. If you will just watch her closely & schedule a c-section I think she will be fine. You do need a backup vet. I also have never had any of the monstrous expenses I have read about. There are a lot of people on this board that breed small Yorkies, they just don't post b/c they don't want to be bad mouthed. I have my hard hat on so I am ready for you girls.
I think everyone is looking out for her female's best interest on here. I don't think people are out to bash small yorkie breeders. I think her and her vet will have to determine what is best for her girl. I know that you breed small yorkies and are very vell educated in this (as it sounds), but this was an accident and she sounds scared. Spaying is an option. I don't think anyone wants anything to happen to her little girl.
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Yorksrule - I read your post and appreciate that you admit to breeding tinies -but saw THIS post below where you admit concern for their size... you also stated you raised yorkies 15 years ago...I get the impression you just started breeding tinies ?

I don't mean this for a debate but when you say you've never had a problem with your tiny moms... I'm unclear how long you've been breeding very small yorkies.

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I am concerned about their size, i wanted to raise some very small pups. My male is 2&1/4 lbs & from small parents. If the girls have any trouble they will be spade & sold for pets or kept for pets. I do love all my dogs but am not sure about more than 2 or 3 in the house. I did raise Yorkies about 15 years ago. I had small ones & not much trouble. My Husband & I are retired & have time to devote.

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I have been quite long enough. The very people that are telling you what an awful thing you have let happen claim they do not & would not breed small Yorkies. Well if they do not then they do not have any experience breeding small Yorkies. I have bred small Yorkies for 20 years. I have never lost a mama, not even come close. I have never had one in trouble other than having to have a c-section. The small ones carry just as easy as a larger one, & yes I have bred larger Yorkies also so I have expertise in larger ones also. I have never had a Yorkie less than 4 lbs have 5 pups so I cannot give advice there. I would not consider letting her have them naturally. A c-section is not that hard on the female, a difficult birth is & also is dangerous. If you will just watch her closely & schedule a c-section I think she will be fine. You do need a backup vet. I also have never had any of the monstrous expenses I have read about. There are a lot of people on this board that breed small Yorkies, they just don't post b/c they don't want to be bad mouthed. I have my hard hat on so I am ready for you girls.
it's great that you've not experienced problems in your breeding program thus far and have never lost a yorkie with your vast years of experience. but the original poster that we're talking about sounds like a total novice and, i would venture to guess, does not have the expertise of breeding tinies as the experience that you've gathered in the past 20 years. and i think the common consensus is, if you don't know what you're doing, why risk the life of your little girl? even if the risk of delivery complications are a thousand to one, and the odds are in your favor, just suppose you're that ONE in a thousand winner with the complications? i personally wouldn't want to risk it no matter the odds if i had a little girl. i would do everything in my power to maximize the odds in my favor and if spaying her right away is best then so be it. but then i totally minimized my risks by getting a little boy. whom i'm having neutered as soon as we finish the last round of vaccinations.
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Yorksrule - I read your post and appreciate that you admit to breeding tinies -but saw THIS post below where you admit concern for their size... you also stated you raised yorkies 15 years ago...I get the impression you just started breeding tinies ?

I don't mean this for a debate but when you say you've never had a problem with your tiny moms... I'm unclear how long you've been breeding very small yorkies.
My Mother raised tiny Poodles & groomed. I started working with her when I was 15. I started raising tiny Poodles & some other breeds & at about 20 chose Yorkies & have been with them ever since. I have always had small ones. I probably need to state that mine are at 4 to 4&1/2 lbs with the exception of 2 & they are just under 4 but are thin made & are actually larger then my 4 pounders. I have never actually been without a breeder or two. I had to care for my parents for a number of years so I did not have many. Unfortunately I have lost both parents now so I went back to what I have dedicated my life to & I guess that is why I get so irritated with people who call me irresponsible. Because of their size I am very watchful & have developed a keen sense of when something is wrong. I never take chances with them. I will not hasitate to do a c-section if the least little thing is off. I can assure you a c-section is easier on them most of the time, even on bigger dogs. Mine are taking care of the pups no longer than a hr. after we get home & are feeling great. I have a couple of excellent Vets. I don't at all mind differences of opinion but I don't think I should be called irresponsible, that's just not true & not nice.
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it's great that you've not experienced problems in your breeding program thus far and have never lost a yorkie with your vast years of experience. but the original poster that we're talking about sounds like a total novice and, i would venture to guess, does not have the expertise of breeding tinies as the experience that you've gathered in the past 20 years. and i think the common consensus is, if you don't know what you're doing, why risk the life of your little girl? even if the risk of delivery complications are a thousand to one, and the odds are in your favor, just suppose you're that ONE in a thousand winner with the complications? i personally wouldn't want to risk it no matter the odds if i had a little girl. i would do everything in my power to maximize the odds in my favor and if spaying her right away is best then so be it. but then i totally minimized my risks by getting a little boy. whom i'm having neutered as soon as we finish the last round of vaccinations.
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I absolutley love that name Hunny Bunny. If I ever get another yorkie female, that will most likely be her name.
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yorksrule and waistfull i would have called my little bunjee that too as a nickname, but my husband wanted to keep our "pet names" to each other.
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