is my yorkie pregnate

[MaddiesMommie]

Originally Posted by sashazx75

....i didn't do it for the research what i said is i research all my life on animals and before and during her pregnancy i did research and of course i wouldn't risk her life i wouldn't breed her if she was under 5lbs and she is over 5lbs and the vet said everything was fine..so i talked to my vet before during and will be after..i wanted another yorkie so i decided to get 1 off of her there is no harm in that..

seriously!
tell that to those who have lost their beloved pets during whelping. I don't think being over 5lbs is any kind of guarantee your dog should be bred.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Yes, everyone starts somewhere. (I always laugh when I see that thrown out there as someone's defense and justification for what they are doing.)

Those who can be considered REPUTABLE and ETHICAL breeders start by being mentored, learning and researching the breed and it's standard, getting involved and first hand experience BEFORE they ever breed their own first litter. Then there are those who breed without any REAL experience or clue what they are doing who figure they'll just learn as they go and try, poorly, to justify it by claiming that "everyone started somewhere."

I liken this to animal abuse.......

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I liken this to animal abuse.......

I do too. I made that comparison in another thread earlier today, actually. Both can easily yield the same result, yet it's OK to speak up on one, but not the other? Completely illogical.

[littlewhip]

sashazx75, You said your little girl was due this friday/sat, Iam NO breeder but i do like to read and have some kind of advise if i ever was to try and help someone even a little, I have much respect for those on here who are the
experienced breeders, I can see you getting more deffensive as each post is only trying to help you. not bash you, I bet when the time comes for your little girl to have her pups, Not 1 breeder would turn you away if you needed help....please think about that. I believe if one person gains insight about breeding , Then its worth the read ~ Just MHO.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

to the OP, if you read this I sure hope you take back everything you just said. it's like you are spitting nails at one of the most respected breeders on here. it's obvious that you don't really have the experience or research and now that everyone on here can see that you are gettin more and more irate and defensive. let me mention i was in your boat once before where i thought everyone was attacking me. i took a break from YT for awhile and then came back with a new view and attitude. they were all 100% right and they were just trying to save me from a bad situation. i was blessed that my situation worked out ok, but i should have listened to them and now i know better and i agree with everything they say. they aren't here to hurt you or upset you, they are being realistic and trying to save you from a mistake or problem they can see and you cannot. they have much more experience than you and they are the next closest thing to experts in breeding and raising yorkies. if you didn't want their advice then don't ask for it because they will not tell you what you want to hear, we will all tell you what you need to hear whether you like it or not.

i hope that at some point no matter how angry you are getting that this is all sinking in a bit and you will eventually wake up and see that everyone was just telling you the truth and were right. sorry you feel so threatened but i'm not here to cradle you and tell you to go breed for fun. i'm here to get you to wake up and realize the weight of your decisions.

That was beautifully written. Precise and to the point.

Also OP, if you really read in detail the post Rachel quoted, you will see that books, internet sites, youtube, and a byb will not lead you to how to breed the right way. It can only lead you do becoming a back yard breeder yourself.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

That was beautifully written. Precise and to the point.

Also OP, if you really read in detail the post Rachel quoted, you will see that books, internet sites, youtube, and a byb will not lead you to how to breed the right way. It can only lead you do becoming a back yard breeder yourself.

Well if one wants to go to the OP profile you will see how some members are condoning bad breeding practices.

[DvlshAngel985]

Why am I not surprised?

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Absolutely not.....I began, by buying two pet yorkies (not for breeding), joined a breed club because I wanted to learn more about the breed. Began attending dog shows. Talking to exhibitors, helping them out. Got bit by the show bug. Began researching pedigrees in search for a quality dog to show. Found my breeder, by the way who is my mentor. Attended canine genetic classes, breeding and whelping seminars. Under my mentor's training learned everything yorkie. Traveled with her to dog shows, learned pedigrees, training, grooming and presenting a dog before she ever consented to selling me a dog. As she wanted to know that my heart was in the right place, in the best interest of the breed. I assisted her in several whelpings, learned the whelping process, docking tails, removing dew claws, raising a litter. I finished 3 Champions before my mentor even allowed me near a whelping box. And when I finally bred my girl, it was with the knowledge I was breeding her to the best of the best. I didn't do it on my own, with suitcase and my girl in hand I was at my breeders doorstep and there I remained until my girl whelped. I was by no means going to take the life of this beautiful girl my breeder intrusted me with into my own hands.......So sorry to disappoint you.

I'll have you know my dogs stay with me for the rest of their lifes. But, then I don't breed for the purpose of selling puppies or for the experience. I breed to improve the breed, for my next Champion to add to my breeding program.

A vet does go to school to learn cainine medicine. But, any vet worth their weight keeps breeders that are breed specific, experienced breeders in their rolodex and turn to them when there is breed specific questions. I know my vet does. Even though he owns one of my breeders dogs, he has her # on speed dial.

Bashing people, no I don't but, I am blunt and only have the best interest of the breed at heart. They come first. You on the other hand are going to do what you are going to do.

Absolutely wonderful post, and this is the recommended way of becoming a breeder, unlike those who call themselves breeders just because they allowed their pets to become pregnant.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Well if one wants to go to the OP profile you will see how some members are condoning bad breeding practices.

Wow...what a shock.

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Absolutely wonderful post, and this is the recommended way of becoming a breeder, unlike those who call themselves breeders just because they allowed their pets to become pregnant.

Then there are those who have had litters and don't like to be labeled as breeders, yet seem to consider themselves the authority on breeding. That's the kind of crap that gets dogs killed.

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Absolutely not.....I began, by buying two pet yorkies (not for breeding), joined a breed club because I wanted to learn more about the breed. Began attending dog shows. Talking to exhibitors, helping them out. Got bit by the show bug. Began researching pedigrees in search for a quality dog to show. Found my breeder, by the way who is my mentor. Attended canine genetic classes, breeding and whelping seminars. Under my mentor's training learned everything yorkie. Traveled with her to dog shows, learned pedigrees, training, grooming and presenting a dog before she ever consented to selling me a dog. As she wanted to know that my heart was in the right place, in the best interest of the breed. I assisted her in several whelpings, learned the whelping process, docking tails, removing dew claws, raising a litter. I finished 3 Champions before my mentor even allowed me near a whelping box. And when I finally bred my girl, it was with the knowledge I was breeding her to the best of the best. I didn't do it on my own, with suitcase and my girl in hand I was at my breeders doorstep and there I remained until my girl whelped. I was by no means going to take the life of this beautiful girl my breeder intrusted me with into my own hands.......So sorry to disappoint you.

I'll have you know my dogs stay with me for the rest of their lifes. But, then I don't breed for the purpose of selling puppies or for the experience. I breed to improve the breed, for my next Champion to add to my breeding program.

A vet does go to school to learn cainine medicine. But, any vet worth their weight keeps breeders that are breed specific, experienced breeders in their rolodex and turn to them when there is breed specific questions. I know my vet does. Even though he owns one of my breeders dogs, he has her # on speed dial.

Bashing people, no I don't but, I am blunt and only have the best interest of the breed at heart. They come first. You on the other hand are going to do what you are going to do.

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Absolutely wonderful post, and this is the recommended way of becoming a breeder, unlike those who call themselves breeders just because they allowed their pets to become pregnant.

Or "pregnate".

Well said, Mardelin!

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Wow...what a shock.



Then there are those who have had litters and don't like to be labeled as breeders, yet seem to consider themselves the authority on breeding. That's the kind of crap that gets dogs killed.

Makes you wonder what their true intentions and their reasons for sticking around

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Makes you wonder what their true intentions and their reasons for sticking around

Divide and Conquer.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Divide and Conquer.

Gathering of the weak?

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Makes you wonder what their true intentions and their reasons for sticking around

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Divide and Conquer.

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Gathering of the weak?

deception and sabotage?

or just simply to annoy the hell out of people for their own amusement...

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kalina82

deception and sabotage?

or just simply to annoy the hell out of people for their own amusement...

New Club Maybe?????????????????