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Old 03-30-2010, 04:12 AM   #46
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I'm very sorry for the loss of your baby!

Good luck in your search, you have been given great advice on size, breeders etc..
It's so important to find a good breeder!! A good one will NOT focus on size, crazy ways to describe size & will not charge more for size!
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First of all, Welcome to YT!!! I have 2 babies that are 4.5lbs each (full grown) and they are VERY healthy! My best friend also has a gorgeous yorkie who is 2.5lb and 5 year old! She is one of the tiniest little girls I have ever seen (her picture is under my pooch party album,) her name is Nina and she is also extremely healthy and has never had any problems! I think the advice given here by some of the pros was great and being a newbie myself I would tell anyone looking for a smaller size yorkie to find a reputable breeder (by asking some of the pros on YT for advice on specific ones) and tell them your preferences! I think the concern here is to be on watch for anyone/breeders who intentionally uses the word teacup or teaspoon to sell dogs! Love what mardelin said about teacups having handles and saucers! That was hilarious! In this day and age it is very easy to get taken and get sold a dog by someone who only cares about money! I think what everyone was saying was just that no good breeder will sell you a yorkie with that title attached and just to be careful! The point is to find a healthy puppy no matter the size! And yes there is a standard but as many people shared above they come in all sizes! It seems to me that you are more likely to get a healthier dog if you stick within the size range of what the standard is according to the AKC guidelines! I wish you the best of luck in finding your new baby and am sorry that you had to go through the trauma of losing your beloved pet! Hope to see you around YT!
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No offence anyone, but I am soooo very tired of multiple people lecturing people on using the term teacup. If a newbie posts and uses the word, then only one person needs to politely correct them. It really seems that every thread I read that starts with Hi I'm New Here - there are way too people attacking the newbie. It happened to me. Its happened alot recently. Give these people a chance to learn before you attack them, please. I love you guys, you have all helped me out alot, and I want to stay here, but I want to read happy stuff, not stuff about newbies getting attacked on their first post.

Go ahead and attack me. And by the way, I had a teacup. He was amazing. I will continue to use the word teacup in my own house hold because that is how we always refered to Hunter as. However, I will never buy a yorkie from a breeder that advertises Teacup, but I'm still using the word. I have learned something here.
i completely agree with you. i've never wanted a dog until recently because i was too busy with school, work, and 2 small children. it's been a very hectic 6 years! 6 years old is how old my oldest child is - her brother is 3. i went to school full time, worked full time, and took care of them when i was fortunate enough to be home.

point being - to say the least, i was never educated about dogs. although i loved them - i knew the last thing i needed to do was take on a pet i had no time for. since i've graduated and am able to stay at home with my children (at least until my youngest starts school and i find a job) i have started researching puppies. i first started looking for yorkies because my neighbor when i was a child had yorkies and i adored them.

i googled "teacup yorkie" MANY times because as i said, i was not educated about dogs at all! i had seen the tiny pups on t.v. and thought they were adorable. after doing a lot of reading - i did find out that teacup is not an appropriate term and there is really no such thing according to the AKC. i was being responsible and researching the breed rather than buying a "teacup" on impulse - reading about temperament - interactions with children, etc. during that reading, i also realized that while breeds have certain traits - you can't guarantee a dog will be good with children or anything else simply because the breed is known for that - they are just like people! furthermore, i learned that breeders who breed for size usually ignore the health risks involved in doing so. health risks? what health risks? that's what i would've said before i started researching! i had no clue.

now that i know better, i am doing better. i have adopted a puppy from the shelter (a terrier mix) because i must admit, i was impatient in wanting a puppy. i went from being on the go non-stop to being bored to death at home. in my search for a yorkie - i found my puppy which i LOVE! i am still looking for a yorkie or a morkie or a maltese because i DO want a smaller puppy - and i don't think there's anything wrong with that.

i will not buy a yorkie that i feel is too small to live a healthy life - especially being around children. in fact, i don't like the idea of buying dogs at all when there are so many dying every day in shelters. since becoming informed about the "teacups yorkies" which is exactly what i called them when my search began - i have decided to hold off and search for a healthy yorkie that is right for me and my family. hopefully, i can rescue one who really needs a good home instead of giving into my impulse to line someone's pockets.

moral of the story: not everyone is a yorkie expert - everyone starts somewhere. i could've easily made a post just as this one referring to "teacup yorkies" before i did my research - and i'd hate to think i'd be fussed at because i'm a true dog lover - i just wasn't educated.
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I don't think anyone was "fussed at." People here were simply trying to state to please be aware of what things like advertising teacups really means. A dog is a dog, not a teacup, or a micro mini anything. Or like Mary said, a teaspoon. Sure there can be small healthy pups on occasion, but really to go search for a teacup anything is asking for trouble and possibly finding heartbreak. I also ask for people to remember that the information presented on this forum is done so in the written word, where tones and expressions are hard to read and easy to misunderstand.
For anyone searching for a pup, GOOD LUCK! It's a long process, but once you find a reputable breeder and the pup of your dreams, silly things like teaspoons and teacups will seem so unimportant.
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Also, LuvMyPuppe, congrats on your new pup! I volunteer for the SPCA and I know how much those babies need a home.
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Welcome to YT.
When I got my Holly I didn't know anything about Yorkies. I made so many mistakes when I made my up my mind about getting a puppy that when I think back it makes me sick. First I did not do my homework so didn't know not to go to a pet store so thats where I got her ( Now I know better !) Walked in that store and asked for the (Teacup) yorkie and did't take my time and did not have YT so I just took the smallest they had. Thank God she is the best girl well behaved and very healthy. I would not change her or anything about her in a million years but now that I learned from all my YT friends and some of them did pull my ears (LOve them anyway) I know what is the best for me and my girl.
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I think it's sad when newbies and people who already own their dogs get blasted for making a mistake! Not saying that's what happened here in this thread... I'm just saying! People need to be informed about the right way and wrong way to purchase a yorkie but if the dog already exists it's a completely moot point! If that is the case it's time to teach them how to be a great owner of the dog they have and they will soon learn from all the bazillion threads on YT how to refer others in going about the right way to buy a yorkie. Don't think anyone who is trying to be informed should be blasted or fussed at simply because they are uneducated or use the wrong terms! Info on this thread was very informative and like someone said above everyone starts in their knowledge somewhere! YT is great for positively influencing people to buy the right way and then be great owners of the dogs we have already! I have 3 yorkies and 2 of them are not standard yorkies and they have fantastic tempermants, are great with my kids and are extremely healthy! What works for one person may not be what works for another but we can all support the influencing peole interested in this breed on right way to go about purchasing a yorkie!!
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NOBODY starts out knowing everything there is to know about Yorkie, or any dog for that matter. We ALL start somewhere. But how else will anyone learn unless the information is provided for them? No one in this thread was 'blasted' or 'fussed at.' The OP got some good answers, explanations and suggestions. Why the need to make an issue when there wasn't one?

As far educating being a 'moot point' if someone already owns the dog... Should they just continue thinking something incorrect just because 'it's to late now?' What about the other people who haven't bought a dog yet who could be reading and who could learn from the information? If you feel that getting a multitude of information and opinions from some very experienced breeders and owners is not "the right way to go about teaching someone" then unfortunately you will miss out on a great deal you would otherwise benefirt from. (And clearly you don't "get" the concept of public forums in general.) LOTS of people have the opportunity to read and learn from what has been posted, not just the OP.

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Rainbow I agree!!!!

If you re-read everything I said below you will notice I said this thread was great, nice and very informative! I agree with everything you are saying and I'm obviously not the one trying to start a problem here! Sheesh! You are right! No one should walk around with misinformation or saying the wrong things! You are right! tons of people are reading who haven't yet bought a dog and need to know the right way to go about it! I was just agreeing with someone else who said that newbies need to be given that information in a positive light!!! We don't know everything there is to know in life about many things and the only way we ever learn and learn well is because someone else is kind enough to show us the way!!!

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I think it's sad when newbies and people who already own their dogs get blasted for making a mistake! Not saying that's what happened here in this thread... I'm just saying! People need to be informed about the right way and wrong way to purchase a yorkie but if the dog already exists it's a completely moot point! If that is the case it's time to teach them how to be a great owner of the dog they have and they will soon learn from all the bazillion threads on YT how to refer others in going about the right way to buy a yorkie. Don't think anyone who is trying to be informed should be blasted or fussed at simply because they are uneducated or use the wrong terms! Info on this thread was very informative and like someone said above everyone starts in their knowledge somewhere! YT is great for positively influencing people to buy the right way and then be great owners of the dogs we have already! I have 3 yorkies and 2 of them are not standard yorkies and they have fantastic tempermants, are great with my kids and are extremely healthy! What works for one person may not be what works for another but we can all support the influencing peole interested in this breed on right way to go about purchasing a yorkie!!
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If you re-read everything I said below you will notice I said this thread was great, nice and very informative! I agree with everything you are saying and I'm obviously not the one trying to start a problem here! Sheesh! You are right! No one should walk around with misinformation or saying the wrong things! You are right! tons of people are reading who haven't yet bought a dog and need to know the right way to go about it! I was just agreeing with someone else who said that newbies need to be given that information in a positive light!!! We don't know everything there is to know in life about many things and the only way we ever learn and learn well is because someone else is kind enough to show us the way!!!
If you re-read everything I said, you will see that I was responding to several posts all at once, not addressing you specifically. There were SEVERAL comments made that expressed discontent, not just yours. I was making a general comment addressing them all. Bottom line is, there is no need to make an issue here when there wasn't one to begin with--only good information and advice was offered, as you too have mentioned.
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I for one have not seen one post on here that was negative. The YT'ers were simply pointing out that 'reputable breeder' and 'teacup yorkie' do not go together.

Honestly whether the newbie is either looking or has already purchased a puppy, they do need to be informed of the scam of "teacup yorkies". And yes, it is a scam in my eyes. If the main yorkie organizations, including the AKC plainly state that there is NO such thing as a teacup yorkie, then selling a yorkie as a teacup just to make more money off of it is a scam!

Now, as to how the people are given the information... I believe that if you are old enough to own a dog then you should be old enough to take information that is given to you without being offended. Some people are blunt and to the point and some people tend to sugar coat things more. Thats Life! You will deal with different people and their methods of giving you information everywhere you go. If we were dealing with young children here, I could see the need to sugar coat and be sweet more often. I'm not advocating being downright rude, and I have not seen anyone on this thread be mean.

YT is an online, public community full of EXTREMELY knowledgeable people that LOVE the yorkie breed. I'm proud of YT and the firm stand that they take about Responsible yorkie ownership.

Keep up the good work, YT!

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Gotcha! Just assumed you were directing it at me since you quoted things I had said! Hope you have a fantastic day!!
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I for one have not seen one post on here that was negative. The YT'ers were simply pointing out that 'reputable breeder' and 'teacup yorkie' do not go together.

Honestly whether the newbie is either looking or has already purchased a puppy, they do need to be informed of the scam of "teacup yorkies". And yes, it is a scam in my eyes. If the main yorkie organizations, including the AKC plainly state that there is NO such thing as a teacup yorkie, then selling a yorkie as a teacup just to make more money off of it is a scam!

Now, as to how the people are given the information... I believe that if you are old enough to own a dog then you should be old enough to take information that is given to you without being offended. Some people are blunt and to the point and some people tend to sugar coat things more. Thats Life! You will deal with different people and their methods of giving you information everywhere you go. If we were dealing with young children here, I could see the need to sugar coat and be sweet more often. I'm not advocating being downright rude, and I have not seen anyone on this thread be mean.

YT is an online, public community full of EXTREMELY knowledgeable people that LOVE the yorkie breed. I'm proud of YT and the firm stand that they take about Responsible yorkie ownership.

Keep up the good work, YT!
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out of curiosity..is there such a thing as a 'teacup' in other breeds?
or are they also labeled wrongly?
(Im too lazy to research it right now)!!
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out of curiosity..is there such a thing as a 'teacup' in other breeds?
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No, I think it started out with the poodle because they have three classifications, standard, miniature, and toy. People just called the toy size a "teacup", it just meant the smallest category. Yorkies, however, as a breed are all in the toy category, and although they come in different sizes they are all considered to be in the toy category.
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