Why ACA, CKC, UNC, APRI, and more?

[soryloveyorkie]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Any dog, regardless of registry is only as good as the breeder that produced it. You can get dishonest, unethical breeders regardless of which registry you are using. Don't ever assume that the registry being used is an indication of the quality of the dog or the ethics of the breeder.

In regards to the OP, you were in a pet store...mistake number one. (I know, you were looking, not buying.) Just saying, dogs in pet stores are largely supplied by mills, so nothing there should come as a big surprise.

I have a five years old daughter to love puppies, and she wants to see the puppies. I respect your opinion, but i don't think that it is a mistake.
thank you
soryloveyorkie

[soryloveyorkie]

Originally Posted by soryloveyorkie

I have a five years old daughter to love puppies, and she wants to see the puppies. I respect your opinion, but i don't think that it is a mistake.
thank you
soryloveyorkie

sorry she is six years old. not five. You can understand that children don't understand many things like adults.

[mjharpst]

Originally Posted by weeloves06

I agree the top two are AKC & UKC. If you buy a puppy with limited rights you can not regrister the pups born to them with these clubs. The reason for that is to protect the lines. Also, to try to control the puppy mills.So what many will do is to take the pups and regrister them with the off brand clubs if you want to call them that, so they at least have some sort of regristry to give to buyer of those litters. I also agree just because they are AKC or UKC does not make them champion dogs or the best you can buy. They are just a stable club and help you if you have problems with regristered dogs in their clubs.

Good information ladies and gents. It is good to know so many of us have the information to pass on to others.

[Jokerman]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

UKC (United Kennel Club0 and AKC are the top two registeries and the oldest, most elite.. They are about the same age. UKc first got started with hunting dogs now they have classes for everything, agility, conformation and etc. they have big premier show in kalamazoo, Mich every year is equal to some of the larger AKC shows. The top ten dogs of every breed are invited to compete. The other registeries mentioned aren't worth the paper they are written on and AKC will not register a dog from these. But beware, just because a dog is registered AKC doesn't mean you have a top of the line dog either. many people falsely belive this. Not so. Paperss are not worth anything anyway unless you are planning on breeding and showing. My show dogs are dual regisstered. UKC and AKC. I show in both venues but mainly in UKC. To regisster your dog in UKc, you must first register him/her AKC or it has to be born from two UKC parents. All my other dogs that I am not showing are strictly AKC.

Can you explain to us why you choose to show your AKC registered dogs in UKC shows? I have never understood why people want to title their dogs in UKC when they are AKC registered, except it is easier to obtain a UKC title. No offense, but I've just never understood the logic and am curious why some breeders do it.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by Jokerman

Can you explain to us why you choose to show your AKC registered dogs in UKC shows? I have never understood why people want to title their dogs in UKC when they are AKC registered, except it is easier to obtain a UKC title. No offense, but I've just never understood the logic and am curious why some breeders do it.

I show BOTH venues. I started out in UKC simply because at the time I knew absolutely nothing about showing or handling a dog in the show ring. Scared to death of those stern looking AKC judges at the time. UKC is more family oriented and there are no professional handlers allowed. it's you and your dog and the standards for the dog are exactly the same as AKC. I have only been showing a couple of years . I wouldn't say it is easier to title the dog UKC still you still have to meet the standards and believe me, UKC has tightened up in the last few years but they still retain the friendly, family atmosphere and that is really good for beginners. Most of the people I know that show, do show in both UKC and AKC and while it years past it might have been easier to title your dog in UKC, that is a reputation UKC is trying hard to live down. Hope this answers your question. No offense taken. many people are under the same impression you are.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by soryloveyorkie

I have a five years old daughter to love puppies, and she wants to see the puppies. I respect your opinion, but i don't think that it is a mistake.

No, you completely misunderstood what I meant when I said it was a "mistake." I didn't mean you made a mistake by going in the store. You were questioning the reasons behind the different registries that you saw in the pet store--the fact that they are supplied by puppy mills should be indication alone of what quality breeders are behind them. THAT was what I meant by saying it was a "mistake."

[soryloveyorkie]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

No, you completely misunderstood what I meant when I said it was a "mistake." I didn't mean you made a mistake by going in the store. You were questioning the reasons behind the different registries that you saw in the pet store--the fact that they are supplied by puppy mills should be indication alone of what quality breeders are behind them. THAT was what I meant by saying it was a "mistake."

Yes, I misunderstood what you mean. I think that my English is good, but it's not to good hehehehe. Sorry and thank you!!!!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by soryloveyorkie

Yes, I misunderstood what you mean. I think that my English is good, but it's not to good hehehehe. Sorry and thank you!!!!

No worries. I could/should have worded it differently. Just wanted to clear it up--didn't want you to think I was questioning your judgment.

[weeloves06]

Originally Posted by soryloveyorkie

Yesterday I went the mall w/my daughter to buy some clothe for her. She loves to see puppies so we went to the pet store located inside of the lynnhaven mall. I saw a cute yorkie and just for curiosity I asked the price. The price is $2000 and when I asked about registration they say UNC. What in the world is UNC? There are many clubs like APRI, UNC, PETA, CKC, ACA and more.
Why breeders register puppies in those clubs? Are they gurantee purebree in those puppies? Also, many breeders have AKC dogs, but they give CKC papers(dual registration) for their puppies. Why?
In my opinion it's a fraud to charge $2000 without AKC papers, and it's not fair for people who don't know anything about clubs and purebreed.

First of all fraud is when you are not told of this fact before you buy it and were told it was i.e. AKC or some other reg. However, they get their puppies from a puppy mills, so buyer beware. Reg. is not the real problem, some will be very sickly. Please don't buy from a pet store. Remember all puppies are cute and yorkies can win your heart with one look. Thanks for asking, by the way, I have not heard of UNC reg either. Have a nice day

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by weeloves06

Reg. is not the real problem, some will be very sickly. Please don't buy from a pet store.

You bring up a very valid point. AKC registration does not ensure that the dog is healthy, just like it doesn't ensure that the dog is well bred, that it didn't come from a mill or anything else for that matter.

[soryloveyorkie]

Originally Posted by weeloves06

First of all fraud is when you are not told of this fact before you buy it and were told it was i.e. AKC or some other reg. However, they get their puppies from a puppy mills, so buyer beware. Reg. is not the real problem, some will be very sickly. Please don't buy from a pet store. Remember all puppies are cute and yorkies can win your heart with one look. Thanks for asking, by the way, I have not heard of UNC reg either. Have a nice day

I was doing shopping in the mall, not buying puppies. My daughter goes everywehere and like me; she is an animal lover. My question was about registrations. Thank you.

[soryloveyorkie]

Originally Posted by weeloves06

First of all fraud is when you are not told of this fact before you buy it and were told it was i.e. AKC or some other reg. However, they get their puppies from a puppy mills, so buyer beware. Reg. is not the real problem, some will be very sickly. Please don't buy from a pet store. Remember all puppies are cute and yorkies can win your heart with one look. Thanks for asking, by the way, I have not heard of UNC reg either. Have a nice day

Thank you. My question was about organization with different types of registration and good breeders pm with the right answer. Iwas doing shopping in the mall not buying puppies. My little daughter who is a animal lover like me love to see any kind of animal and I can't say not to her.
Anyway thank you for your post.

[soryloveyorkie]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You bring up a very valid point. AKC registration does not ensure that the dog is healthy, just like it doesn't ensure that the dog is well bred, that it didn't come from a mill or anything else for that matter.

I saw many AKC that are not pretty yorkies, and I saw some yorkies that are not AKC and they are really cute. The most important thing it's too where they come from.

[ltret0294]

Thank you all for the good info. My question(s)
Anyone heard of "United All Breeds" I think they are out in MO and that part of the U.S. Zoey has a microchip that reads that group but she's unreg according to what the shelter is telling me/us. Zack and Zeke have AKC regs from when we got them as rescues from Central FL YTCA and Yorkie Friends Rescue respectively. Anyone help me get more info re Zoey's group. I have my own "gut feeling" about her reg and whether she is all yorkie or mix. See our albums for pics of the "Z" kids.

[BamaFan121s]

Looked up the website for UNITED. It's somewhat confusing. It seems like a registry trying to make a name for themselves by giving the impression that they are NOT an acutal registry at all, but more an organization there to combine ALL records (registration, microchip, etc) and keep track of it all in one place.