Tsa La Li---Breeder---any opinions?

[jeanief]

Sonja, your little Taz is sooooo cute ! I watch the video of him in the show ring ( on your website) and had to LOL. He sure looks like he loves to show. PRETTY DOG !

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by Susan123

Dee, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it looks like a list of recommended breeders with warnings for ones not recommended. So maybe those were actually recommended? I see many of whom you're probably talking about. Somebody help me here, I didn't see GB in the top link under O, am I on the wrong page or link?

I think you are right. I misread it. Jumped right on and looked for my name LOL.

[Tx2Stepn]

Originally Posted by jeanief

Sonja, your little Taz is sooooo cute ! I watch the video of him in the show ring ( on your website) and had to LOL. He sure looks like he loves to show. PRETTY DOG !

Thank you so much. I have 3 of his daughters that I'm watching right now that I might show. I like them all, but I think that 1 of them just doesn't have that show pizzaz. He truly loves to show and I luv to show him. I'm going to show him rarely now, but hope to find a show I can show him at next year. Right now I'm showing my friend Deb's dog Rowdy and he is just a joy too. She is Taz's breeder and the 2 of them are alot alike.

[MyPeanutAbbyGra]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

To the OP if your still here.......This is a site that lists breeders and it has G.B. listed as a breeder that is not recommended......

Yorkies.Com Kids BreedersDtoI

I see she is connected to another breeder.... if you go to her site she has a lot of pedigrees listed that are from the Tsa-La-Li lines.....

Genesis Yorkshire Terriers

I wonder if it has anything to do with all of these sick dogs and the connection of these two breeders?

Bad Breeders and Sick Puppies

If it was me, I'd keep looking......Good luck in your search.....

These stories are horrible! So sad that people would do this to other people, let alone helpless puppies :

[jrsygal37]

Regarding the site posted about good breeders and the site not reccomending Glenda Beavers. I emailed the party and asked why it was that their site was not reccomending her and this is the reply I got back (See below). Elaine

The Replay I received to my inquiry.


"Elaine,

All of a sudden there's renewed activity concerning Glenda Beavers from Tahlequah, OK even though she's been around for quite a while. It's said, and some say proved, that she sells to pet stores. I'm told that she has sold to a local pet store here in Massachusetts, Laughlin Kennels so if that's true It confirms her activity. Laughlin has been featured on at least one Boston TV station as being a puppymill and I've been there and seen for myself that Laughlin is in fact a puppymill. I have a warning about them on my web site.

I also have a statement that I wouldn't do business with Glenda Beavers and Carolyn Buffington along with several other dubious so-called breeders.

About the only thing that can be done to reduce the demand for puppymill pups is to get the word out and let the public be informed. That's what I try to do but I won't "BLACKLIST" a breeder until I have documentation that asserts my statements. Opinions are a different matter!


Some that think WHITE BREAD is great have their heads in the sand. It's empty calories and has nowhere near the food value of a Whole Grain Bread. This is an analogy to some 'Great Breeders' that have no interest in the products they produce and are only in it for the money. The majority of the pups produced by these Yorkie breeders don't come anywhere near the AKC/YTCA standard and in many cases are unhealthy. Yes, there are some of their puppies that don't suffer from major problems but that the 'law of averages' and not the norm. Those that give glowing referrals to these bad breeders were just lucky. More often than not these pups have parasites, viruses and genetic problems and sometimes they don't reveal themselves to be sick until any guaranty is long since passed.

Even if the breeder would live up to the warranty, it usually calls for the puppy to be given back, and we all know that once the BOND has been established the owner very rarely will return a sick puppy. This is especially true when the breeder says they'll have to euthanize the pup because it's too expensive to give it medical treatment!! "

[phfgkl]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Regarding the site posted about good breeders and the site not reccomending Glenda Beavers. I emailed the party and asked why it was that their site was not reccomending her and this is the reply I got back (See below). Elaine

The Replay I received to my inquiry.


"Elaine,

All of a sudden there's renewed activity concerning Glenda Beavers from Tahlequah, OK even though she's been around for quite a while. It's said, and some say proved, that she sells to pet stores. I'm told that she has sold to a local pet store here in Massachusetts, Laughlin Kennels so if that's true It confirms her activity. Laughlin has been featured on at least one Boston TV station as being a puppymill and I've been there and seen for myself that Laughlin is in fact a puppymill. I have a warning about them on my web site.

I also have a statement that I wouldn't do business with Glenda Beavers and Carolyn Buffington along with several other dubious so-called breeders.

About the only thing that can be done to reduce the demand for puppymill pups is to get the word out and let the public be informed. That's what I try to do but I won't "BLACKLIST" a breeder until I have documentation that asserts my statements. Opinions are a different matter!


Some that think WHITE BREAD is great have their heads in the sand. It's empty calories and has nowhere near the food value of a Whole Grain Bread. This is an analogy to some 'Great Breeders' that have no interest in the products they produce and are only in it for the money. The majority of the pups produced by these Yorkie breeders don't come anywhere near the AKC/YTCA standard and in many cases are unhealthy. Yes, there are some of their puppies that don't suffer from major problems but that the 'law of averages' and not the norm. Those that give glowing referrals to these bad breeders were just lucky. More often than not these pups have parasites, viruses and genetic problems and sometimes they don't reveal themselves to be sick until any guaranty is long since passed.

Even if the breeder would live up to the warranty, it usually calls for the puppy to be given back, and we all know that once the BOND has been established the owner very rarely will return a sick puppy. This is especially true when the breeder says they'll have to euthanize the pup because it's too expensive to give it medical treatment!! "

Elaine, thanks for posting this!

[Tx2Stepn]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Even if the breeder would live up to the warranty, it usually calls for the puppy to be given back, and we all know that once the BOND has been established the owner very rarely will return a sick puppy. This is especially true when the breeder says they'll have to euthanize the pup because it's too expensive to give it medical treatment!! "

I posted about this type of warranty on another thread. It's called a "loop-hole".

[EmrldShdwQueen]

Originally Posted by Tx2Stepn

I posted about this type of warranty on another thread. It's called a "loop-hole".

I replied in the other thread too...I certainly am not trying to convey any sort of "loop hole" in my contract...I know that there are breeders out there that are not fair with what they are willing to do and standing behind their pups...and even worse some that don't honor their contracts at all. I will never be one of those people. I also do offer more than one option on the guarantee. I try to be as fair as I possibly can and do stand behind my contract and have always honored my word and done whatever I can to make buyers more comfortable with getting one of my babies, before, during, or after the process.

It is most definitely wrong what some breeders out there do, I have had my fair share of disappointments with dogs and was not offered any sort of compensation or even any sympathy. I think it's terrible...

I think Dee is right with what she mentioned earlier...at some point just about every breeder will come up against something. It is how you handle it and what you do from that point on...if you LEARN from your mistakes...that matters.

[ree]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Regarding the site posted about good breeders and the site not reccomending Glenda Beavers. I emailed the party and asked why it was that their site was not reccomending her and this is the reply I got back (See below). Elaine

The Replay I received to my inquiry.


"Elaine,

All of a sudden there's renewed activity concerning Glenda Beavers from Tahlequah, OK even though she's been around for quite a while. It's said, and some say proved, that she sells to pet stores. I'm told that she has sold to a local pet store here in Massachusetts, Laughlin Kennels so if that's true It confirms her activity. Laughlin has been featured on at least one Boston TV station as being a puppymill and I've been there and seen for myself that Laughlin is in fact a puppymill. I have a warning about them on my web site.

I also have a statement that I wouldn't do business with Glenda Beavers and Carolyn Buffington along with several other dubious so-called breeders.

About the only thing that can be done to reduce the demand for puppymill pups is to get the word out and let the public be informed. That's what I try to do but I won't "BLACKLIST" a breeder until I have documentation that asserts my statements. Opinions are a different matter!


Some that think WHITE BREAD is great have their heads in the sand. It's empty calories and has nowhere near the food value of a Whole Grain Bread. This is an analogy to some 'Great Breeders' that have no interest in the products they produce and are only in it for the money. The majority of the pups produced by these Yorkie breeders don't come anywhere near the AKC/YTCA standard and in many cases are unhealthy. Yes, there are some of their puppies that don't suffer from major problems but that the 'law of averages' and not the norm. Those that give glowing referrals to these bad breeders were just lucky. More often than not these pups have parasites, viruses and genetic problems and sometimes they don't reveal themselves to be sick until any guaranty is long since passed.

Even if the breeder would live up to the warranty, it usually calls for the puppy to be given back, and we all know that once the BOND has been established the owner very rarely will return a sick puppy. This is especially true when the breeder says they'll have to euthanize the pup because it's too expensive to give it medical treatment!! "

Elaine

Thank you for posting this. I hope this will help satisfy, and be an eye opener for more members on here, finally believing that GB is not who she claims she is, or pretends to be. I also hope those who doubted Karen, and defended GB repeatedly will believe the documents were official, and her sole purpose was to help educate us about the woman who hides behind the show ring, deceiving many.
I think it's time ms. GB gets her USDA licence!

[jp4m2]

I find this situation terribly sad and it also upsets me.......It's looking like this breeder, G.B. , started out with good intentions and somewhere along the way consciously decided to make choices that would change everything she worked for and those choices have also had detrimental effects on the poor pups health and well being she's producing......It looks like ethics are hard to live by and difficult to hold on to when the temptation of greed and easy money comes into play....

Four years ago I started out on a quest looking for a yorkie to love and to become my special family member. I have to say that in these past few years I have seen and heard enough about breeders that it just saddens me. I wish it was just the BYB that we had to be careful to avoid, but from my experience it's ALL breeders that have to be looked at very carefully.

[jp4m2]

Just wanted to add...

I don't know the connection of G.B. to Frenchies......but she is mentioned here....almost at the bottom of the page......

Big Time Pets -- Double XX Ranch

Another sick yorkie?.....

Success Stories Pg 9

[Susan123]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

Four years ago I started out on a quest looking for a yorkie to love and to become my special family member. I have to say that in these past few years I have seen and heard enough about breeders that it just saddens me. I wish it was just the BYB that we had to be careful to avoid, but from my experience it's ALL breeders that have to be looked at very carefully.

Elaine, thanks for sharing.

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

Just wanted to add...

I don't know the connection of G.B. to Frenchies......but she is mentioned here....almost at the bottom of the page......

Big Time Pets -- Double XX Ranch

Another sick yorkie?.....

Success Stories Pg 9

I've been told her boyfriend is the breeder of the Frenchies.

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by jencar98

I've been told her boyfriend is the breeder of the Frenchies.

That's funny because when the little Frenchie died according to the note posted in that link She (Glenda) told the owners she had no way of getting in contact with that Laporte guy. Interesting. Also, I do realize that the Frenchie was lost to cancer but even so he was very very young and I do think that as a reputable breeder they could have and should have contacted her back and at least said "look we are sorry he died so young and although it's nothing we can guarantee we would like to offer you another at atleast a reduced price." Instead they just ignored her. To me that's terrible. Elaine

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

That's funny because when the little Frenchie died according to the note posted in that link She (Glenda) told the owners she had no way of getting in contact with that Laporte guy. Interesting. Also, I do realize that the Frenchie was lost to cancer but even so he was very very young and I do think that as a reputable breeder they could have and should have contacted her back and at least said "look we are sorry he died so young and although it's nothing we can guarantee we would like to offer you another at atleast a reduced price." Instead they just ignored her. To me that's terrible. Elaine

Mr. LaPorte is the bf, I believe. Shouldn't have been too hard to contact him, you know?