Tsa La Li---Breeder---any opinions? - Page 8 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

bildio · 12-06-2008, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

--- With age comes wisdom and experience, ---

Yes, listen to me, ladies and gentleman, the voice of wisdom & experience. I think I am the oldest participant on this thread. If you all post your ages, I'll post mine. Oh, I won't be able too. This is post 21

.

yorkieisme · 12-06-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

OK, so bildio has posted a few more times....are we now trying to embarrass or intimidate people into not posting if their opinion is different? What is the point in counting the posts?

And I will state once again, I am not defending or supporting Glenda Beavers, just telling my story, the truth, about my experience with her and her dogs. I thought that was the original question? Not ethics and opinions on breeding, showing, exhibiting, etc. I will also repeat, once again, that I think it is a reach to consider Tsa La Gi a "puppy mill" - which was insinuated in an earlier post. Listen, I'm not a professional breeder, exhibitor or dog show expert - just someone that was looking for healthy, pretty, happy dogs. I found this forum which has provided such valuable advice in the past and I hope that those that feel the need to be so judgemental in their opinions will be able to take a step back, and realize that things are not always so black and white. With age comes wisdom and experience, and hopefully some of what I have seen and read recently is just a lack thereof. I really just wish everyone luck in what they are seeking - I am fortunate enough to have found it in the puppies that I have.

I don't think GB is a puppy mill............I just looked at her puppies and her yorkies again and I have to WOW.........beautiful. I do doubt certain things that has been said here.....I do wonder why this thread was given a chance to start back up and why when some don't agree they become personally attacked and then shown how many times they post, YEAH me this is my 9th time posting on this discussion. IF OP wanted educational knowledge she could have read the other thread instead of starting another one, just like the one trying to get started on the Pet store. But she didn't, which is okay GB told her to RIGHT. As I see it we all are adding fuel to the fire...........and I think none of us will agree on this issue. So why not close this thread and let it die back down.

jeanief · 12-06-2008, 09:58 AM

Ok, enough said don't ya think? Between the two posts I think there is enough info on GB ( good and bad) to make a choice to get a puppy from her or not.

phfgkl · 12-06-2008, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bildio

Yes, listen to me, ladies and gentleman, the voice of wisdom & experience. I think I am the oldest participant on this thread. If you all post your ages, I'll post mine. Oh, I won't be able too. This is post 21

.

Well, I'm almost 52!

jrsygal37 · 12-06-2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bildio

Read that. The key word is sold . There is no proof pups were sold to a pet store. If you use the word shipped, I have no issue with the statement.

OK shipped to the petstore then sold. Better? Do you think the pet store got them for nothing?

jrsygal37 · 12-06-2008, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bildio

I respectfully disagree. Show us the proof that they were sold. If they were indeed sold there should be a bill of sale or some proof of sale.

You are seriously kidding right?

Tx2Stepn · 12-06-2008, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phfgkl

This was very informative..States right on there, will NOT be sold to petstores..Thanks for posting this!

The code of Ethics listed in that post is only aimed at members of the YTCA not to all breeders.

Tx2Stepn · 12-06-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JINANYC

Thank you! I sent her a PM. very cute!

Just remember to look for a breeder that will stand behind their breedings and has a warranty. I would suggest finding one w/o a loop hole warranty.

jp4m2 · 12-07-2008, 08:03 AM

To the OP if your still here.......This is a site that lists breeders and it has G.B. listed as a breeder that is not recommended......

Yorkies.Com Kids BreedersDtoI

I see she is connected to another breeder.... if you go to her site she has a lot of pedigrees listed that are from the Tsa-La-Li lines.....

Genesis Yorkshire Terriers

I wonder if it has anything to do with all of these sick dogs and the connection of these two breeders?

Bad Breeders and Sick Puppies

If it was me, I'd keep looking......Good luck in your search.....

jrsygal37 · 12-07-2008, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp4m2

To the OP if your still here.......This is a site that lists breeders and it has G.B. listed as a breeder that is not recommended......

Yorkies.Com Kids BreedersDtoI

I see she is connected to another breeder.... if you go to her site she has a lot of pedigrees listed that are from the Tsa-La-Li lines.....

Genesis Yorkshire Terriers

I wonder if it has anything to do with all of these sick dogs and the connection of these two breeders?

Bad Breeders and Sick Puppies

If it was me, I'd keep looking......Good luck in your search.....

I have sent a message asking if they could share info. as to why they do not reccomend Glenda. This is for my own curiosity. I would like to see if they have found out some of the things that have recently surfaced. I'll let you know if I hear anything back. E.

Sugar's Mom · 12-07-2008, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp4m2

To the OP if your still here.......This is a site that lists breeders and it has G.B. listed as a breeder that is not recommended......

Yorkies.Com Kids BreedersDtoI

I see she is connected to another breeder.... if you go to her site she has a lot of pedigrees listed that are from the Tsa-La-Li lines.....

Genesis Yorkshire Terriers

I wonder if it has anything to do with all of these sick dogs and the connection of these two breeders?

Bad Breeders and Sick Puppies

If it was me, I'd keep looking......Good luck in your search.....

I found SEVERAL well known show breeders on here and a couple that I know are excellant breeders. I just wonder if this site is made up of one person that had a bad experiencee with the breeder. I know you can't please everyone at the same time. That isn't fair if that is what is up with this site. Letting one dissatisfied client ruin a reputation. Of course unless you know these people personally or have been to their homes, you really don't know what they are doing.

Lolasmom1211 · 12-07-2008, 09:10 AM

I would not buy anything from anyone unless I was completely comfortable with that person. If you stay on this site long enough and ask everyone their opinions, that will NEVER happen. I had never heard of Glenda Beavers prior to purchasing my little boy in August; I read and researched this site as well as anywhere else I could....in fact, this is where I got her name. I found nothing negative about her AT ALL. In fact, everyone had nothing but praise for her and her dogs. I have been very happy with my puppies, no complaints with Glenda at all, but you see what happens in just a few short months. This site now has nothing but negative comments about her, so at times, you must trust your own judgement and heart, because you obviously will not find 100% agreement - 100% of the time, and if you do, wait a few months and it will all change!

Susan123 · 12-07-2008, 09:51 AM

Dee, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it looks like a list of recommended breeders with warnings for ones not recommended. So maybe those were actually recommended? I see many of whom you're probably talking about. Somebody help me here, I didn't see GB in the top link under O, am I on the wrong page or link?

Susan123 · 12-07-2008, 10:03 AM

Oh, I see where her name is now.

jeanief · 12-07-2008, 10:17 AM

That site is confusing for sure. There is a black highlighted spot where is just randomly says I wound not recomend GB and I think Carol B. It doesn't say why or anything else about it. I think someone emailed to ask why. It does say on Carol B website that GB helped her start her kennel and lines over or something to the effect. Mabey Carol B had troubles in the past and then got some new lines from GB. Who knows....They also did own a dog together.
Moore County Kennel Club Of North Carolina - Sunday 06/01/03 Group ...Owner: Glenda Beavers & Carolyn Buffington., Elberton, GA 30635
It's very sad about the sick dogs Carol bred and did nothing about it when they got sick to satisfy the new owners years ago. To me that says everything about a breeder. Any breeder can have things happen , but when you don't fix the problem and right it with the new owners that is just plain wrong!! Full refund, help with the medical , whatever the case. For me there is ample proof the GB sold puppies to a pet store. Even if she did just ship ( which is dumb to think that in my opinon ) that is also very wrong, that I think 100% of the people on YT could agree ! GB has beautiful dogs for sure and is still winning in the show ring, but the stuff about the petstore and being a friend with Carol B who doesn't cover her very sick pups( according to the shunt site) would be enough for me to look elsewhere for sure. Just because you have winning show dogs, doesn't mean you have good ethics. I don't know either of these breeders, but like I said there is enough proof for me to that I would not buy form either of these breeders. I guess each to their own......

12-07-2008, 08:03 AM	#114
jp4m2 Love my Boys Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: w/ my boys Posts: 5,056	To the OP if your still here.......This is a site that lists breeders and it has G.B. listed as a breeder that is not recommended...... Yorkies.Com Kids BreedersDtoI I see she is connected to another breeder.... if you go to her site she has a lot of pedigrees listed that are from the Tsa-La-Li lines..... Genesis Yorkshire Terriers I wonder if it has anything to do with all of these sick dogs and the connection of these two breeders? Bad Breeders and Sick Puppies If it was me, I'd keep looking......Good luck in your search..... __________________ B.J.mom to : Jake J.J. Jack & Joey, momma misses you..... The joy found in the companionship of a pet is a blessing not given to everyone. The two most powerful words when we’re in struggle: me too..

12-06-2008, 09:58 AM	#108
jeanief YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 307	Ok, enough said don't ya think? Between the two posts I think there is enough info on GB ( good and bad) to make a choice to get a puppy from her or not.

12-07-2008, 09:10 AM	#117
Lolasmom1211 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 664	I would not buy anything from anyone unless I was completely comfortable with that person. If you stay on this site long enough and ask everyone their opinions, that will NEVER happen. I had never heard of Glenda Beavers prior to purchasing my little boy in August; I read and researched this site as well as anywhere else I could....in fact, this is where I got her name. I found nothing negative about her AT ALL. In fact, everyone had nothing but praise for her and her dogs. I have been very happy with my puppies, no complaints with Glenda at all, but you see what happens in just a few short months. This site now has nothing but negative comments about her, so at times, you must trust your own judgement and heart, because you obviously will not find 100% agreement - 100% of the time, and if you do, wait a few months and it will all change!

12-07-2008, 09:51 AM	#118
Susan123 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,455	Dee, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it looks like a list of recommended breeders with warnings for ones not recommended. So maybe those were actually recommended? I see many of whom you're probably talking about. Somebody help me here, I didn't see GB in the top link under O, am I on the wrong page or link?

12-07-2008, 10:03 AM	#119
Susan123 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,455	Oh, I see where her name is now.

12-07-2008, 10:17 AM	#120
jeanief YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 307	That site is confusing for sure. There is a black highlighted spot where is just randomly says I wound not recomend GB and I think Carol B. It doesn't say why or anything else about it. I think someone emailed to ask why. It does say on Carol B website that GB helped her start her kennel and lines over or something to the effect. Mabey Carol B had troubles in the past and then got some new lines from GB. Who knows....They also did own a dog together. Moore County Kennel Club Of North Carolina - Sunday 06/01/03 Group ...Owner: Glenda Beavers & Carolyn Buffington., Elberton, GA 30635 It's very sad about the sick dogs Carol bred and did nothing about it when they got sick to satisfy the new owners years ago. To me that says everything about a breeder. Any breeder can have things happen , but when you don't fix the problem and right it with the new owners that is just plain wrong!! Full refund, help with the medical , whatever the case. For me there is ample proof the GB sold puppies to a pet store. Even if she did just ship ( which is dumb to think that in my opinon ) that is also very wrong, that I think 100% of the people on YT could agree ! GB has beautiful dogs for sure and is still winning in the show ring, but the stuff about the petstore and being a friend with Carol B who doesn't cover her very sick pups( according to the shunt site) would be enough for me to look elsewhere for sure. Just because you have winning show dogs, doesn't mean you have good ethics. I don't know either of these breeders, but like I said there is enough proof for me to that I would not buy form either of these breeders. I guess each to their own......