Tsa La Li---Breeder---any opinions?

[bildio]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

Just for everyone's information. I was just trying to answer the OP's original question. I do have first hand knowledge of Glenda Beavers and her puppies. I do not think she needs me to defend or support her. Her product stands on it's own. I am looking at it right now. I just told my story, the truth. I sleep very well at night and my conscience is clear. I bought from a different breeder the first time, one which I found no negative feedback on, and I had horrible and very expensive health problems with my precious baby girl...so when I did do even more research, and came up with Glenda's information, I have had no complaints. The puppies have NEVER been sick, they are happy, healthy and beautiful. That is the end of it. I don't want to get into the ethics and politics of breeding and showing and exhibiting...I don't think that is what the OP was asking. Maybe we should all stick with the subject matter that was originally asked.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by bildio

Do you know how she dealt with it? There was no followup to the letter that was posted. Let's stick to the facts.

According to what was posted, she ignored it. That foundation always post an update when the matter is resolved. there is no update there. That is the top Liver Shunt Research foundation in the country.

[Susan123]

Originally Posted by bildio

If people didn't buy puppies from pet stores the problem would be solved.

This is the most ridiculous statement I've read in a long time. Come on, are you serious? Let's villianize the consumers (most aren't even aware of where these puppies come from and purchase because of the pull on their heart strings) as oppose to the puppymills that pump out these puppies in the masses, who's mom's and dad's never see the light of day, only to be brought out for breeding.


How do we know the dogs are suffering? How do you know they're not? If the puppies are lucky, most of them will end up in a decent home. Do you think the only people who purchase these puppies are decent homes, no, more puppy millers and even people who mistreat dogs. Nobody knows or cares where they end up at a petstore. Everybody loves a puppy....but what about their moms and dad's that you don't see?

[bildio]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

According to what was posted, she ignored it. That foundation always post an update when the matter is resolved. there is no update there. That is the top Liver Shunt Research foundation in the country.

I read the TSFMLS success story. I'm glad the pup got excellent care.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by bildio

I read the TSFMLS success story. I'm glad the pup got excellent care.

Yes it did get excellant care from the foundation. Thank goodness there are places like that that will give a puppy or dog the care it needs when breeders ignore them or owners can't afford the expensive care they need.

[bildio]

Originally Posted by Susan123

This is the most ridiculous statement I've read in a long time. Come on, are you serious? Let's villianize the consumers (most aren't even aware of where these puppies come from and purchase because of the pull on their heart strings) as oppose to the puppymills that pump out these puppies in the masses, who's mom's and dad's never see the light of day, only to be brought out for breeding.


How do we know the dogs are suffering? How do you know they're not? If the puppies are lucky, most of them will end up in a decent home. Do you think the only people who purchase these puppies are decent homes, no, more puppy millers and even people who mistreat dogs. Nobody knows or cares where they end up at a petstore. Everybody loves a puppy....but what about their moms and dad's that you don't see?

If you read what you've written, you'll have read something more ridiculous than what I wrote, not that I'm admitting what I wrote was ridiculous.

If people don't buy from the pet stores, the puppy mills will cease to exist. If puppy mills cease to exist who'll supply the puppies.

Think of what's happening with illegal drugs. I wonder how many taxpayer dollars have been spent dealing with this issue, and it's not even close to being resloved.

Anyway, the only issue I have is not sticking to the facts on this thread.

[bchgirl]

No offense bilido...but you've spent more effort on the subject than the breeder herself....obviously the entire matter doesn't concern her.

[Lolasmom1211]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

No offense bilido...but you've spent more effort on the subject than the breeder herself....obviously the entire matter doesn't concern her.

That is not really fair or nice. She / He has not posted anymore than anyone else in this thread.

[JMuedog]

Originally Posted by JINANYC

Hi everyone! I spoke with Glenda today and she told me that she has sold her dogs to many of you and I was wondering what you all have heard about her and her dogs and what you think or what was your experience.

Thanks so much!

Hello,

As you can see you came to a site with very passionate yorkie owners! Lots of information available to you!!!

Any luck on your search for your new girl? I've been searching for the right puppy/breeder for 6 months so I know how frustrating it can be! Just wanted to wish you good luck!

Should probably send admin a request to close this thread because its really gotten off subject....

Good luck in your search!!!

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

That is not really fair or nice. She / He has not posted anymore than anyone else in this thread.

You can find the post info by clicking the number of responses on any thread.

bildio 19
phfgkl 12
JINANYC 10
bchgirl 8
yorkieisme 8
Lolasmom1211 8
Susan123 5
Sugar's Mom 4
Brooklynn 4
stedmansmommy 3
jencar98 3
YorkieAZ 2
txrosegirl 2
SumosMommy 2
jrsygal37 2
Sunnie 1
amandawash 1
hugz4all4 1
adorame 1
JMuedog 1
BamaFan121s 1
yorkykisses 1

[Lolasmom1211]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

You can find the post info by clicking the number of responses on any thread.

bildio 19
phfgkl 12
JINANYC 10
bchgirl 8
yorkieisme 8
Lolasmom1211 8
Susan123 5
Sugar's Mom 4
Brooklynn 4
stedmansmommy 3
jencar98 3
YorkieAZ 2
txrosegirl 2
SumosMommy 2
jrsygal37 2
Sunnie 1
amandawash 1
hugz4all4 1
adorame 1
JMuedog 1
BamaFan121s 1
yorkykisses 1

.....but who's counting???? I didn't mean it literally. I was just trying to keep things civil and friendly. My goodness!

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

No offense bilido...but you've spent more effort on the subject than the breeder herself....obviously the entire matter doesn't concern her.

And, Lola'smom if you'll check I do believe bildio has posted more on this thread than other members and has posted on previous GB threads, so Deb's post does ring true.

Also, I'm happy for you that you've had a wonderful experience with GB. I can understand how you and others would want to defend her given your experience with her.

Bildio, the dogs suffering that I referred to would be the breeding stock and puppies of puppymills - and yes, they do suffer - horribly! Anyone that supplies as many shipments to a pet store is either a broker, puppymill or both. Anyone involved in, or that defends the practice is perpetuating the suffering of dogs, IMO.

[bildio]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

You can find the post info by clicking the number of responses on any thread.

bildio 19
phfgkl 12
JINANYC 10
bchgirl 8
yorkieisme 8
Lolasmom1211 8
Susan123 5
Sugar's Mom 4
Brooklynn 4
stedmansmommy 3
jencar98 3
YorkieAZ 2
txrosegirl 2
SumosMommy 2
jrsygal37 2
Sunnie 1
amandawash 1
hugz4all4 1
adorame 1
JMuedog 1
BamaFan121s 1
yorkykisses 1

Do I get something special for the most posts? This is the YorkieTalk forum, right . Now I have 20. One more, & I'll quit. I like the number 21.

[Lolasmom1211]

Originally Posted by jencar98

And, Lola'smom if you'll check I do believe bildio has posted more on this thread than other members and has posted on previous GB threads, so Deb's post does ring true.

Also, I'm happy for you that you've had a wonderful experience with GB. I can understand how you and others would want to defend her given your experience with her.

Bildio, the dogs suffering that I referred to would be the breeding stock and puppies of puppymills - and yes, they do suffer - horribly! Anyone that supplies as many shipments to a pet store is either a broker, puppymill or both. Anyone involved in, or that defends the practice is perpetuating the suffering of dogs, IMO.

OK, so bildio has posted a few more times....are we now trying to embarrass or intimidate people into not posting if their opinion is different? What is the point in counting the posts?

And I will state once again, I am not defending or supporting Glenda Beavers, just telling my story, the truth, about my experience with her and her dogs. I thought that was the original question? Not ethics and opinions on breeding, showing, exhibiting, etc. I will also repeat, once again, that I think it is a reach to consider Tsa La Gi a "puppy mill" - which was insinuated in an earlier post. Listen, I'm not a professional breeder, exhibitor or dog show expert - just someone that was looking for healthy, pretty, happy dogs. I found this forum which has provided such valuable advice in the past and I hope that those that feel the need to be so judgemental in their opinions will be able to take a step back, and realize that things are not always so black and white. With age comes wisdom and experience, and hopefully some of what I have seen and read recently is just a lack thereof. I really just wish everyone luck in what they are seeking - I am fortunate enough to have found it in the puppies that I have.

[spr377]

Originally Posted by bildio

Do I get something special for the most posts? This is the YorkieTalk forum, right . Now I have 20. One more, & I'll quit. I like the number 21.

LOL