Debates

[YorkieRini]

I have another idea I know..I know..but really you all may like it.

What about having a forum where we can debate? Hot topics like breeding tinies can be discussed and debated. Rules should still apply, but to discuss what we disagree with is not all bad. Some people may not want to be a part of it so they just don't go to the 'Hot Topic' forum. I personally like to hear both sides of everything.
I think it would educational to see others discuss both sides.

Anyone agree of having a forum where we can debate? I think we are mature enough to handle the heat. If not, the admins can do their duty.

[schatzie]

My honest opinion towards "debating" is that not everyone has the ability to do so while following the YT guidelines. It is proof that the controversial topic threads most likely end up getting closed for various reasons. Most of which is due to personal attacks against other YT members or going way off topic of the original thread.

Speaking as a moderator, I feel that the moderators would be spending too much time monitoring the "debate" threads while more positive time could be spent welcoming a new member, helping someone w/ a Yorkie question, researching/learning information I seek out personally myself, or admiring all the photos, etc...

I have high hopes to someday see the topics that are already posted within YT stay on topic and not get heated with insults and hurt feelings.

[hunniebunnie]

i'm a newbie here so my opinion does not come with much experience on this particular board, but based on other boards i'm on, i find that ANYTHING has the potential for turning into a debate. it really just depends on the members and how everyone decides to conduct themselves in what should be a civil discussion no matter the topic.

obvious topics like neuter/no neuter, breeding tinies/not breeding tinies, pet store/breeder, may be a no brainer when being relegated to the "debate" forum, but what about topics that start out seemingly innocent then get off track into a debate due to one person's choice of words?

so personally i don't see how a specific "debate" forum would really help other than give a rubber stamp to some members to be more "in your face" with one's verbage. i think everyone should just learn to be civil and conduct themselves respectfully no matter the forum. Even if it's "your habit" to be frank and truthful, it is possible be respectful and still "tell-it-like-it-is".

[YorkieRini]

Originally Posted by schatzie

My honest opinion towards "debating" is that not everyone has the ability to do so while following the YT guidelines. It is proof that the controversial topic threads most likely end up getting closed for various reasons. Most of which is due to personal attacks against other YT members or going way off topic of the original thread.

Speaking as a moderator, I feel that the moderators would be spending too much time monitoring the "debate" threads while more positive time could be spent welcoming a new member, helping someone w/ a Yorkie question, researching/learning information I seek out personally myself, or admiring all the photos, etc...

I have high hopes to someday see the topics that are already posted within YT stay on topic and not get heated with insults and hurt feelings.

Too bad. I have seen the threads you speak of and I would think you would want to watch the 'Debate' threads more closely. I wasn't sure if it could really work anyway..now that I took off my rose colored glasses

Thanks for replying!
Irene

[red98vett]

LOL !! I've seen and been on a site with a Debate section.....Some people love to debate too much and to be honest...they get out of hand.

I have a feeling the same would apply here.

[Bella0722]

I think it is a great idea. I like to read them (though I choose not to participate when they get ugly) even when they are controversial because they afford us a learning opportunity. Then, those who want to read know ahead of time that they will be controversial if they know ahead of time these are "hot topic discussions". Then they can choose to participate or just read and walk away when their emotions get riled up.

Good idea!

[schatzie]

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

Too bad. I have seen the threads you speak of and I would think you would want to watch the 'Debate' threads more closely. I wasn't sure if it could really work anyway..now that I took off my rose colored glasses

Thanks for replying!
Irene

Oh trust me, YT does monitor the "debate" threads more often then let's say a lighter topic thread. It's a given, LOL. As you probably have noticed, most of those "debated threads" you might be referring to are closed now. Also, these thread closings is NOT due to it being a debate, but the inability of some to be able to do so in a positive manner.

I wear those "rose colored glasses" also at times.

[Jaspermom]

Originally Posted by schatzie

I have high hopes to someday see the topics that are already posted within YT stay on topic and not get heated with insults and hurt feelings.

Schatzie, in a perfect world...

But not everyone cares about whether or not they are hurting other people. They feel so passionate about their subject that they think, "Tough Sh_ _ if I hurt anyone's feelings, I am gonna be HEARD!" There will always be people like that in this world. But hey, hearing a strong opinion, even if it hurts the original poster, gives everyone an opportunity to consider a line of reasoning they may never have thought of on their own.

I appreciate the heated debates, no matter how nasty they get because I always learn something. I try to get past the nastiness and just concentrate on the subject matter. I think the moderators do a pretty good job closing threads that are hateful, and I appreciate them very much.

I do think that having a "debate thread" is a recipe for emotional disaster, though. However, if having it keeps the other threads clean and simple, let's go for it!

[chachi]

I think a debate section would be good. I think there would be less debating on regular threads if we had it.

[Bentley&BitsysMom]

I thought we already had "debate threads"

JK!

[YorkieRini]

Originally Posted by chachi

I think a debate section would be good. I think there would be less debating on regular threads if we had it.

That's what I was thinking..and then I thought Admins can ban those trouble makers faster and to minimize the nonsense. I have to say the board has been pretty easy going not many nasty posts.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

That's what I was thinking..and then I thought Admins can ban those trouble makers faster and to minimize the nonsense. I have to say the board has been pretty easy going not many nasty posts.

I am on another site that has a debate section and since they banned one person there isnt any problems. The people that will cause problems just do it now in regular threads so whats the difference in having a debate section. It could be moderated the same as regular threads. People get used to the rules and stay within the guidelines.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by chachi

I am on another site that has a debate section and since they banned one person there isnt any problems. The people that will cause problems just do it now in regular threads so whats the difference in having a debate section. It could be moderated the same as regular threads. People get used to the rules and stay within the guidelines.

hmmmm...Good point and you're right - it's been pretty good here lately and you do have a point about those that thrive on debates just end up doing it in the regular sections.

I personally enjoy reading them and post too - I even learn something - but sometimes it just gets TO redundant because there are some people that just take it to new levels and never quit, or know when to back off, and they get WAY off subject.

[red98vett]

To add something to my post....I would be afraid a debate section would just give those that love to debate a new playground ...the section may get taken advantage of.... and we'd be seeing posts intended to create HUGE debates - rather than threads that are reasonable and interesting.

That's pretty much what I've seen happen before also....it wasn't pretty.

[Diego]

It will probably do 1 - 2 - 3 ..........BOOM , because some subjects seems to be very explosives .