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Old 04-11-2006, 05:23 PM   #1
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Default The Difference Between UK and USA Breeders and Puppy Release Age

This has come up on another thread tonight but I guess it's more of a general question. It seems very apparent that breeders in America won't release puppies until about the twelve week mark for reasons of socialisation and general care. Many on this forum seem to think a puppy going to a new home at eight weeks is far too young. Yet in the UK, the release standard (from what I understand) is eight weeks... are breeders in the UK being irresponsible in releasing puppies at this age?
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We all have different ways of doing things...but believe me..many, many US breeders sell at 6 and 8 weeks..12 wks is a Yorkie club guideline..and I think 12 weeks works best for my pups..many are too tiny at 8 weeks to leave.
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I bought Diesel home at 9 weeks. He has been a breeze to work with. He was housebroken by 5 months, slept in his playpen at night with no probs,and also got along well with our other dogs. I couldn't have asked for a better pup.

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I think most of the time (for many breeds) that 8 weeks is fine - if you're dealing with a good-sized, healthy, well-eating little pup.

However - you have to take into account that most of us on YT -- are far more cautious than the general public. And - on this forum, we are talking about Yorkies. These little dogs (and many other small dogs) are often far more fragile than other breeds. For this reason, I think that most of us (especially regarding our breed) do certainly recommend their staying with their mother for 10 to 12 weeks.

We feel this way because we want these little guys to gain a little more weight, be as healthy as possible, be eating well on their own, and other things, before they go off to their new home.

**** There is no doubt that this wouldn't help all new little pups regardless of their breed, but it certainly is especially important with a little Yorkie.

PS: I got my little pup at 8+ weeks, and he did fine. But, he had already been taken away from his mother. And --- he was "big" and "eating very well." I feel very fortunate that I got such a healthy little guy.

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Old 04-12-2006, 03:52 AM   #5
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Im from the uk and got my yorkie when she was seven weeks old from her breeder. I really wish she would have kept her and her brothers and sisters untill they where 12 weeks. We have had problems getting her to eat and she is sick and has diahorriea every couple of days. I cant help but feel she has missed out on the extra few weeks with her mummy and siblings which will no doubt affect her in the future.
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This has come up on another thread tonight but I guess it's more of a general question. It seems very apparent that breeders in America won't release puppies until about the twelve week mark for reasons of socialisation and general care. Many on this forum seem to think a puppy going to a new home at eight weeks is far too young. Yet in the UK, the release standard (from what I understand) is eight weeks... are breeders in the UK being irresponsible in releasing puppies at this age?
Although im sure yes some UKers release their yorkie too early the same as some do in the Usa, in my experience of searching I viewed several litters and spoke to numerous breeders and only one was willing to give me a puppy at 8 weeks(he weighed 4lb and had large parents too) all others wouldnt give me a puppy before 10 weeks or later, one wanted to keep until 16 weeks.
I think this sort of practise goes on all over the world not just UK/USA.
Oh by the way Pippa was 10 weeks when i got her.
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Okay, here's another question in this same vain. What if you owned a 12 week old pup and circumstances were such that a 6 week old pup must join it...with no mother in the picture. This is somewhat hypothetical here..so don't yell at me...but that situation might exist in my near future, at no choice of mine or the pups. The 12 week old is a male and the 6 week old, if I take her, will be a female. What do you guys think?
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Okay, here's another question in this same vain. What if you owned a 12 week old pup and circumstances were such that a 6 week old pup must join it...with no mother in the picture. This is somewhat hypothetical here..so don't yell at me...but that situation might exist in my near future, at no choice of mine or the pups. The 12 week old is a male and the 6 week old, if I take her, will be a female. What do you guys think?
Though obviously not an ideal situation, there is some good in the fact that the older pup will have some socialization influence on the younger one, so it is better than none at all. I would do everything in my power to try to convince the breeder of this 6 week old pup to let it remain with it's littermates(if there are any)for at least another month, even if the mother is not in the picture. It really does make a big difference long term.
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Im from the uk and got my yorkie when she was seven weeks old from her breeder. I really wish she would have kept her and her brothers and sisters untill they where 12 weeks. We have had problems getting her to eat and she is sick and has diahorriea every couple of days. I cant help but feel she has missed out on the extra few weeks with her mummy and siblings which will no doubt affect her in the future.
I'm sorry to hear that you've had so many problems. Seven weeks does sound a little too young. I kind of wish my breeder had kept my puppy until about the age he is now (14 weeks) because I had a big problem period between 10 weeks and 12 weeks where I seriously felt that I needed to return him. He seemed very under-socialised to me (nervous with people and other dogs and not at all affectionate) and I think he could have benefited from more interaction with litter mates and the breeder herself. It's gotten much better now and I've put a huge amount of work in with him and he's really taking off which I'm relieved about. I think she's a great breeder and she's a real Yorkie nut but I think in retrospect that I made a mistake in assuming that because she was a show breeder that she'd be better. When I get another next year, I'm going to opt for a litter that is kept longer with a more socialising breeder. Definitely. Hope your little girl feels better soon. Let me know if there's anything I can do
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Gibber - It doesn't sound like your question is "hypothetical." It sounds like you are really considering doing it.

Why are you considering getting a little pup that is only 6 weeks old? What circumstances might cause this to happen? Having another (even older) puppy won't take the place of that little puppy's staying with its mother longer (and litter mates its own age).

I also feel that a 12-month old pup might be just a little too much - energy-wise, etc., - for a little 6-weeks old pup. I truly believe that my pup - when he was 12 weeks old - would totally not have been a good thing to have around a tiny little puppy. He was holding his own and playing very rough with my 21-pound Bichon at that age..... In fact, he was doing this at weeks. (There is a "huge developmental difference between a 6-week old and a 12-week old -- "night and day.")

I would suggest being ready to supervise this new little friendship 24/7 for a while - and having a place where the little puppy can sleep and rest in peace as much as it needs to - for the first month or so.

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I agree with Pat. The yorkshire terrier club of Central Florida says, Puppies should not be released until 12 weeks of age. Yet I bought Bell home at 9 weeks. I feel that 8 weeks might be ok for some puppies, but the smaller ones should stay with mom and siblings for 12 full weeks.
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In my city, it is most commonplace for breeders to release Yorkie pups at about 7-8 weeks. We got our Rowdy at 7 weeks and he was little, 1.1 lbs. He had two bouts of diarrhea requiring medication in the first couple of months and we had much trouble getting him to eat. He is a sweetie pie, loves everyone, and other dogs (so far at one year). He is such a sweetie pie that we wanted to get another pup from his parents. So we contacted the breeder and reserved a pup born in January. She let the littermates go at 7 weeks, but she kept our Rex till 8 weeks because we asked her to - but that was as long as she could keep him due to her need to be out of town. Rex is much bigger than Rowdy was at 8 weeks, and he LOVES to eat and has had no health problems at all (he's 12 weeks now). He is far more advanced, developmentally and socially, than Rowdy was at the same age. Of course he has max socialization AND PLAY TIME from Rowdy!!! I can definitely see the difference between Rowdy and Rex and I know Rowdy would have benefited from a few more weeks with mom and littermates. But I really couldn't see that or understand it till I got Rex. It's a dilemma when the common practice is to let them go so young.
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