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04-10-2007, 06:22 PM | #1 |
Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA
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| Bill would require California owners to spay or neuter dogs, cats! Can you believe this? The new proposed bill wants to force pet owner to a mandatory spay neuter by the time the pets are 4 MONTHS OLD! If you are caught with any pets over 4 months that are not there is a $500 fine! If you are a breeder, you have to get a permit at $50 to $100 per pet! Why? to reduce the number of animals being euthanized. This is outrageous! First of all the responsible pet owners will do it anyways. The ones who don't care won't. In my opinion it's not going to change anything. What do you think? What if this bill passes and other states follow suit? The price of purebred dogs and cats are so much more in California already, if this bill passes, I can't imagine what a new Yorkie puppy would cost, I rarely see a pup for under $1200 and a good breeder is asking for $2500+ for a limited registeration. for more details go to: http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_5632446
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04-15-2007, 05:46 AM | #2 |
BANNED! | I don't agree with this helping at all. IMO it will cause more problems , since irresponsible pet owners will not care and arent going to follow this. Responsible pet owners already spay/neuter their pets. Futher more it will just drive up the cost for responsible breeders to sell puppies, since this will cause unnecessary expenses. IMO this SUCKS!!!! |
04-21-2007, 08:21 AM | #3 |
My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca.
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| They need to set limits on how many dogs your allowed to have and also how many breeding females. I suggest four breeding females at a time. This would shut down all the millers and byb. A law should be passed that prohibits dogs (and cats) from being caged outside in deplorable conditions. The problem with any bill of this nature is that there is no one to enforce it. For the politicians this all looks good for them. I read in our local newspaper (The Lompoc Record) where they are going to do a door to door search to check that each dog and cat has a license. And a hefty fine will be placed if you don't have all the tags. It's getting out of hand for sure. Not too many brains behind what's happening. |
04-21-2007, 05:43 PM | #4 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA
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| Gosh, that's ridiculous...What about the people who have tiny dogs that are not big enough to get spayed/neutered until 6-7 months? I think they're going about this the wrong way...
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04-21-2007, 07:42 PM | #5 |
YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California
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| I'm not quite sure of my opinion on this bill yet, but for those worried about spaying/neutering our tiny yorkies so early, if you read the bill, it says that all you need to put off the surgery is a vet's note saying that the puppy/dog is too young/old, frail, ill, etc. So at least we have no worries there!
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05-08-2007, 03:59 PM | #6 | |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: N. California
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has any breeders out there gotten permits yet? | |
06-05-2007, 05:46 AM | #7 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: stockton
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| Ab 1634 Is Not A Good Bill California Assemblyman Lloyd Levine who legislates what kind of light bulbs Californians can use is now in cahoots with HSUS and PETA, a RADICAL Animal Rights Cult that is on the FBI's domestic TERRORIST watch list for it's affiliation and funding of radical groups like ALF and ELF. Levine, PETA and HSUS have legislation (CA AB 1634) moving thru the California State Assembly that will MANDATE the PEDIATRIC CASTRATION / HYSTERECTOMY of EVERY PUPPY and KITTEN in the state of California by the time the pet is 16 weeks old. Failure to comply will mean facing FINES of $500 per pet for each 30 days you are out of compliance. Additionally there will be CIVIL and or CRIMINAL PENALTIES. Imagine having a CRIMINAL RECORD because you did not have radical surgery performed on your puppy or kitten. They say that there are exemptions for SOME pure breeds that are registered with AKC for dogs or CFA for cats and a few other registries but no rare breeds no designer breeds. The requirement for these exemptions are all but impossible to meet. This MEAN SPIRITED legislation mandates that the cities and counties write laws that are incompliance with the legislation or more strict. |
06-05-2007, 05:48 AM | #8 | |
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I hope this doesn't hurt any of our great YT breeders.
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06-05-2007, 05:53 AM | #9 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: stockton
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| Bill Ab1634 There are good dog breeders in California. If this bill passes you will have to buy your next puppy from a breeder, or puppy mill from out of state, or the price of your new puppy will be doubled because of all the fines, and fees that the breeder in this state is going to have to pay. THIS IS NOT THE ANSWER TO THE DOGS IN THE SHELTERS. EDUCATION is! I sell all of my pups on a spay/neuter contract. I also will take the dog back if the sellers life style changes. My dogs are NOT to go to the shelter, but to come back to me. Write your Assembly person. This bill is not the answer! |
06-05-2007, 05:55 AM | #10 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: stockton
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| Bill Ab 1634 REMEMBER if it PASSES in California, PETA and HSUS will be using CA AB 1634 as model legislation for YOUR STATE NEXT YEAR. This is not just about the right to own the Pet of your choice it is about the INSIDIOUS EROSION OF CIVIL LIBERTIES and PROPERTY RIGHTS. It is about the NANNY GOVERNMENT (city/county/state/federal) telling AMERICAN CITIZENS WE ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH to CONTROL OUR OWN LIVES. |
06-05-2007, 05:58 AM | #11 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: stockton
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| PLEASE HELP fight Bill AB1634 The following web site say it all! http://www.petpac.net/ |
06-05-2007, 06:09 AM | #12 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: stockton
Posts: 17
| Ab 1634 This bill is not the answer. Did you know that in Sacramento they are building a multi million shelter? WHY? We have to stop them from passing this bill. I am asking all Yorkie LOVERS, to write a letter, fax it or email to your Senator, and the Governor, telling them not to vote for this bill. It is not the answer. Sign petitions. Check out PETPAC. Yes, I have been to Sacramento twice, to fight this bill. It is wrong, and is taking away our rights. Next it might be there are to many kids in this state, so you can only have one child, or there are to many cars in this state, you can only have one car. I know that this sounds ridiculous, but so is this bill. |
06-05-2007, 06:18 AM | #13 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: stockton
Posts: 17
| Dog police I know up here, and in most Cities in the North, there are limits on how many dogs or cats you can have. Here it is 3 or you must get a kennel license $$$. Sacramento is also 3. They will fine you for anything more than that, plus take the extra animals. Have heard that there cities that the limit is 2. AB1634 opens the door for dog police to be knocking on your door, and your town to charge more in fees and fines. |
06-12-2007, 08:22 AM | #14 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: stockton
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| No on CA's bill AB1634 The following is a sample of what you could send to your Senator. To find who your senator is go to the following site, type in your street and zip, and your senator will come up. You can also find this on the AKC.org web site. WE HAVE TO FIGHT THIS BILL, AND NEED YOUR HELP! http://192.234.213.69/lmapsearch/framepage.asp The Honorable (name) California State Senate State Capitol Sacramento, CA 95814 RE: Oppose AB 1634 as Amended May 31st Dear Senator __________: I am writing you today because I am concerned about Assembly Bill 1634, a measure that would require mandatory spaying/neutering of dogs and cats over four months of age unless the owner qualifies for and purchases an intact animal permit. I am a responsible dog owner (and or breeder) and I oppose this legislation. (Personalize here – tell about yourself as a dog owner, breeder and fancier. How many years have you been involved with dogs? What breeds have you owned or shown? Do you compete in any other activities with your dog – Obedience, Rally, Agility…Have any of your dogs achieved a Championship? Won a prestigious award? Please describe the money you spend when traveling to shows. Do you spend money in hotels, for gas, eat out at restaurants? Details the money you spent in the last few years. Let them know where the shows were that you attended and what businesses you impacted. Breeders - Details the steps you take when preparing to breed/whelp a litter – applicable health testing, evaluation of breeding stock, training, etc…How much money do you invest in these things? How do you work with puppy purchasers to ensure they will be responsible owners? Do you encourage CGC or obedience training? Do you remain in contact with the new owners?) Mandatory spay/neuter is an ineffective solution to animal control problems because it fails to address the heart of the issue—irresponsible ownership. These laws are extremely difficult to enforce and can be evaded by irresponsible animal owners by not licensing their pets. It will hurt responsible breeders like me who raise healthy, well cared-for dogs and work to ensure that these puppies are placed with responsible owners. Passage of AB 1634 will make it almost impossible for Californians to obtain pets locally from responsible California breeders. Responsible owners who are already complying with local animal control laws will be unfairly punished by AB 1634, while irresponsible owners will continue to make problems for the community and local shelters. Concentrating animal control efforts on dogs whose behavior demonstrates that they are a problem for the community would be a much better use of taxpayer funds. I respectfully ask that you support responsible owners and breeders by opposing AB 1634. Sincerely, John Smith 1234 Main Street Los Angeles, CA |
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