annamalyssa has stolen my money

[tinav]

Another thing.... I think "about a month" is not a long time when you are talking online orders. There are several of the YT vendors that will take 4-6 weeks and sometimes longer to get their apparell out to you. If we were talking medical supplies and needed them immediately maybe that would not be acceptable, but a dog hoodie ..... we ought to be able to wait a few weeks especially for a really good price. But, that is just my opinion. Everybody has one and mine is no more right or wrong than the next one. But we have probably beat this poor vendor over the head enough. She has said she will send the refund and the OP will have her money NLT the 27th. What more can we ask of her? (except the raising prices part, that is!)
Peace![/QUOTE]


When you ask why you haven't received your order and do not get a reply..a month is a long time. I don't know what "NLT" stands for but the vendor stated that she would send a tracking number and that has NOT been received either...so I don't think the refund has been sent at this point.

Or do you know somethng I don't?

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

There are always outlets where you can find merchandise (even the good brand name stuff) for less than the boutiques are charging. I have been able to buy several things at wholesale prices by shopping online. I can't believe she is now getting criticized for selling things to fellow Yorkie Talk members too inexpensively!! That is a new one on me. Shame on her for giving us too good of a deal??? She has no less "overhead" than any other small online business. Why should any of the online businesses charge as much as the brick and mortar establishments that have to pay rent, utilities, employee expenses etc.? What is funny is that I have read criticism that the big chains can sell items more cheaply because they buy in bulk, and now I am reading criticism of this YT vendor because she is selling more cheaply because she is so small. So, is it only medium sized boutique type stores that sell at full retail that are acceptable?

I belong to a photography forum and there is always a debate there too about buying at local shops instead of online. I don't even have a local dog boutique so it is not an option. But the fact is, I would not pay $50+ for my Yorkie outfits. But if there are online options I would buy the same outfits for much less. No local boutique (if there was one near me) is losing any money because I just would not pay those prices. If some are continuously browsing in their local boutiques, then I think they need to occasionally purchase something there. I do agree that they should not be used over and over and then buy somewhere else. But, I doubt most buying from this vendor are really doing that. Most probably see a cute outfit and she has reasonable prices, so they buy it. I just bought some great natural dog treats online here from another member. The price was way less than the boutiques would charge for the same quality and quantity of natural treats along with a squeaky toy. I sure would never complain to her to raise her prices!

Another thing.... I think "about a month" is not a long time when you are talking online orders. There are several of the YT vendors that will take 4-6 weeks and sometimes longer to get their apparell out to you. If we were talking medical supplies and needed them immediately maybe that would not be acceptable, but a dog hoodie ..... we ought to be able to wait a few weeks especially for a really good price. But, that is just my opinion. Everybody has one and mine is no more right or wrong than the next one. But we have probably beat this poor vendor over the head enough. She has said she will send the refund and the OP will have her money NLT the 27th. What more can we ask of her? (except the raising prices part, that is!)
Peace!

I'm thinking the OP would of liked a response to her PMs, if the seller is on here daily but does not respond to you or update your order status I can see the OP start to worry with my understanding. If you have time to post, you can respond to your PMs. I'm not picking sides just trying to understand both sides. I think she is also mad that she was told her money would be refunded on Monday and she has still not received a confirmation number and it is now Saturday.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by tinav

I don't know what "NLT" stands for but the vendor stated that she would send a tracking number and that has NOT been received either...so I don't think the refund has been sent at this point.
Or do you know somethng I don't?[/COLOR]

NLT = no later than

I am going by what she has posted here -- that you will get your refund by that date.

I am sorry this transaction has gotten to this point. Sorry that you are both unhappy. Sometimes if a little patience and understanding is allowed at the beginning things don't take such a nasty turn. Just saying....

[tinav]

Originally Posted by Breeze

I'm thinking the OP would of liked a response to her PMs, if the seller is on here daily but does not respond to you or update your order status I can see the OP start to worry with my understanding. If you have time to post, you can respond to your PMs. I'm not picking sides just trying to understand both sides. I think she is also mad that she was told her money would be refunded on Monday and she has still not received a confirmation number and it is now Saturday.

THANK YOU...YOUR POST IS TO THE POINT AND EXACTLY WHERE IT IS AT...A SIMPLE RESPONSE WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE

I also noticed when the vendor post my comments to her she deletes her insulting comments to me....one sided do you think?

I LOVE YOUR NAME..I WISH I WAS FEELING A LITTLE MORE BREEZY( I know your name is spelled Breeze...and the "e" might be silent) RIGHT NOW...

[tinav]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

NLT = no later than

I am going by what she has posted here -- that you will get your refund by that date.

I am sorry this transaction has gotten to this point. Sorry that you are both unhappy. Sometimes if a little patience and understanding is allowed at the beginning things don't take such a nasty turn. Just saying....

I stopped reading her posts...you can only take so much insult and disapointment....money talks thanks for interperting...we will see....

[YorkichonBella]

[quote=YorkichonBella;2593897]

Originally Posted by tinav

I'm just curious........in yr post to her, u state:
I am not sending the hoodie back (unless you provide for postage)...send my $20.00 TODAY!!!
So, u did receive a hoodie from her prior to the misunderstanding? Wrong item or did u order another item which is being disputed?

[quote=tinav;2593907]

Originally Posted by YorkichonBella

Aother item which was never received and have not received the refund.

So, it seems u did receive one order (hoodie). Based on that service, why would you think she was trying to rip u off on next order? Now, I can understand frustration, disappointment, etc about not receiving the next order when you had hoped. I also had to tell someone on my for sale thread that based on not receiving m/o (their choice of paymt) & not hearing from them, that the item was sold to someone else. The timing of m/o is difficult, so can you not accept part of the blame?

[QuickSilver]

IMO, the future is more important than the past... when things get to this point, everyone feels the need to defend what they did and point out why the other person is wrong. This is natural, and often something WAS done wrong. There seems to be a pretty simple solution to this, though. I hope the OP is refunded her money, the seller is returned her merchandise, and everyone can move on.

[YoRkiE Te aMo]

Reading this thread there are 2 people upset
One the buyer and One the seller...
Number one rule to selling and buying on the internet is stay in contact with each other on the situation re: funds on the way...funds received... merchandise status... merchandised shipped and merchandise received by the buyer...
Avoidance is tabu in sales...
I buy and sell on Ebay and find this formula works well !
I have also set an amount i am willing to spend and loose if that actually happens thought it has not happened over the years..
Just be honest and forth right and treat people with the same respect you wish to be treated too and you will find that people are understanding...

[tinav]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

IMO, the future is more important than the past... when things get to this point, everyone feels the need to defend what they did and point out why the other person is wrong. This is natural, and often something WAS done wrong. There seems to be a pretty simple solution to this, though. I hope the OP is refunded her money, the seller is returned her merchandise, and everyone can move on.

The merchandise I received was from another order and was paid for in full and is rightfuly mine....the money order in question is in addition to that and the item was NOT recieved nor the refund. Hope this helps you to understand better.

[tinav]

Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo

Reading this thread there are 2 people upset
One the buyer and One the seller...
Number one rule to selling and buying on the internet is stay in contact with each other on the situation re: funds on the way...funds received... merchandise status... merchandised shipped and merchandise received by the buyer...
Avoidance is tabu in sales...
I buy and sell on Ebay and find this formula works well !
I have also set an amount i am willing to spend and loose if that actually happens thought it has not happened over the years..
Just be honest and forth right and treat people with the same respect you wish to be treated too and you will find that people are understanding...

[tinav]

[quote=YorkichonBella;2593940][quote=YorkichonBella;2593897]

Originally Posted by tinav

So, it seems u did receive one order (hoodie). Based on that service, why would you think she was trying to rip u off on next order? Now, I can understand frustration, disappointment, etc about not receiving the next order when you had hoped. I also had to tell someone on my for sale thread that based on not receiving m/o (their choice of paymt) & not hearing from them, that the item was sold to someone else. The timing of m/o is difficult, so can you not accept part of the blame?

you sound a little confuse with the facts....read how some other vendors would have handled this...btw the first order was a hassel also but at least merchandise was eventually received...I am not unreasonable on timing.

[YorkichonBella]

[quote=tinav;2593951][quote=YorkichonBella;2593940]

Originally Posted by YorkichonBella

you sound a little confuse with the facts....read how some other vendors would have handled this...btw the first order was a hassel also but at least merchandise was eventually redeived.

I am now...... with "which" facts that might be?

[tinav]

[quote=YorkichonBella;2593953][quote=tinav;2593951]

Originally Posted by YorkichonBella

I am now...... with "which" facts that might be?

the second order there was "no communication within a reasonable time" on why no shippement was made ( I had also waited 2 weeks before asking where the goods were).....I had PM'ed the vendor several times before looking for her publicly. All I had asked at first publicly was did anyone see her...this was after I had sent her 2 PM's over a period of a week and I received no response ....THEN I received her first insulting PM (that she was going to refund my money "and so on")and so forth and so on...so I "then" said to her refund my money.....

and being that the first order was also a hassel I had not much to base her on esp after she did not respond except to be insulting

[tinav]

I will not be on much over the weekend have planned some fun filled things to do with the furbabies...catching up with life....tax season has just ended and working 24/7 is now over......and there is lots to do and people to see...

btw...Monkey Daze is selling the same hoodie for $22 I will be buying it from them...I will probably tell them about my experience with this purchase.


tina

[YorkichonBella]

I undertand that you are upset, but the way in which we approach things can affect others reactions. This is what I see from the other threads/posts:
3/25/09 Orig For Sale Thread posted @8:23pm
4/6/09 yr post if anyone had heard from her & pm'd twice in the past two weeks with no respone
Two weeks is slightly exaggerated. I have waited 10 days for arrival from vendors who had the item 'in stock'. And consider that the calculation of 10 days is stretched considering you immediately pm'd for the item as soon as for sale thread posted.
Something to consider. Pls also consider rules of YT:
12. Members are free to price their goods for whatever they wish, and all members are free to buy or not buy from that seller. Posts questioning the price and posts which are disrespectful to the seller are not allowed.