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Peters · 11-13-2006, 04:32 AM

anyone who advertises "christmas puppys" usually throw up red flags for people !

what are the weights of the parents?

some people buy "christmas puppys" for people who may not even want or are ready for a puppy as a gift . the person buying a puppy doesn't ness. keep the puppy!

Thorsmomma · 11-13-2006, 05:51 AM

I think Lorainne put that as kindly as she possible could. It didn't appear that she was accusing you of anything, just trying to be a helpful friend and share her love and knowledge of yorkies...for the welfare of your sweet pups. And that's not to say anyone thinks your stupid or that you don't know how to care for your puppies. Try and step back, and rather than taking this as a personal attack, take it as a friend reaching out.

Have you found any homes yet? They are soo cute, thanks for sharing the pics! If only I could talk my BF into another puppy...I'm driving through OR in January!! Best of luck!

diva pup · 11-13-2006, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Martinezfamily

Lorraine -- (Janet and Diva Pup might be interested in this, too)

Wow, what a burden you must carry... You seem to think you know so much about other people without ever having met them...and you have the answers for other people when they don't even ask you a question. Your house must be immaculate, your family relationships must all be loving and kind, and your world must be so perfectly organized that it doesn't require your attention or care. Surely you've heard the saying: "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"... think this might apply to you?

First, you assume I am too stupid to know about the risks involved in sending puppies home on Christmas -- what, do you think I don't talk to the people who are purchasing our puppies (I have never spent less than an hour with a prospective buyer, by the way) to find out about their home, why they want a puppy, finding out what they know about puppies and helping them to understand the needs of their new puppy they are taking home? Do you really believe that people pay $800 -$1000 for a puppy and then abandon them at the SPCA?! Not the people I sell the puppies to! These folks know the value of a dollar, and value their new puppies highly. Every puppy I have sold has been to a home that has been looking for and waiting for and wanting a yorkie for weeks, if not months. These people would no more dump their puppy at a shelter than forget to breathe.

Everything you note as risks at Christmas time for puppies are risks that I discuss with buyers at all times of the year -- don't you?!? Puppies must be protected and cared for, there is never a safe time to let a puppy chew on certain objects or be ignored if it needs medical attention.

How sad for you that your first assumption when you read about someone who is expressing joy about puppies and joy about Christmas and happiness about a healthy birth -- is such thoughts of evil, death, destruction and loss. I feel very sorry for you.

Susan

Susan, I responded to your pm shaming me as well but I do want to point out that I have a 3 lb yorkie. I also have a very small family. I spent the entire Christmas Eve last year carrying her because she was underfoot last year with all the extra people in the house.

I am not even going to even get into selling 6 week old babies.. selling puppies at Christmas is not just a bad idea, IMO it is a sales ploy invoked by breeders who really do not care about the welfare of the puppies. At this young age it would not hurt you one bit to hold onto these babies another few weeks. You just want the money.

And please..don't feel sorry for me, save your pity for those puppies.

sweetr72 · 11-13-2006, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by diva pup

Susan, I responded to your pm shaming me as well but I do want to point out that I have a 3 lb yorkie. I also have a very small family. I spent the entire Christmas Eve last year carrying her because she was underfoot last year with all the extra people in the house.

I am not even going to even get into selling 6 week old babies.. selling puppies at Christmas is not just a bad idea, IMO it is a sales ploy invoked by breeders who really do not care about the welfare of the puppies. At this young age it would not hurt you one bit to hold onto these babies another few weeks. You just want the money.

And please..don't feel sorry for me, save your pity for those puppies.

Peters · 11-13-2006, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by diva pup

Susan, I responded to your pm shaming me as well but I do want to point out that I have a 3 lb yorkie. I also have a very small family. I spent the entire Christmas Eve last year carrying her because she was underfoot last year with all the extra people in the house.

I am not even going to even get into selling 6 week old babies.. selling puppies at Christmas is not just a bad idea, IMO it is a sales ploy invoked by breeders who really do not care about the welfare of the puppies. At this young age it would not hurt you one bit to hold onto these babies another few weeks. You just want the money.

And please..don't feel sorry for me, save your pity for those puppies.

sweetr72 · 11-13-2006, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Martinezfamily

Oh really? Tell me where you get your information... quote your source, back it up with proof and statistics, otherwise sounds to me like you are blowing smoke...

I really dont need proof and statistics...where do you think yorkies in shelters and rescue groups come from?? They were once little puppies that people spent money on...they didnt just appear from the yorkie fairy?? Look on petfinder.com and see the hundreds of yorkies on there that are looking for homes that are sitting in shelters right now??? Just because I dont have numbers calculated dosent mean Im blowing smoke...its right in front of our faces and I hear about it every single day that I log onto this computer!!

Dawn

Lorraine · 11-13-2006, 07:41 AM

To me protecting the welfare of any animal comes first. I will speak out and I did. If you doubt the Christmas puppy or bunnies at Easter as you call it 'Myth' talk to any animal shelter rescue you want to.
Yes purebreds do end up in shelters after Chrstmas, the ones that live that is.
As I posted Christmas is too dangerous a time to introduce a new baby into a home.
Much too easy to get out doors that are opened with visitors coming, getting into food and ??? at parties, stepped on, sat on, you name it or plain old forgotten while shut up in the laundry room and dying of a hypoglycemic attack because of all the stress and no one noticed.
The prospective owner may be fine to not step on or sit on the pup, but what about the visitors coming and going and new stuff for the pup to get into.
There is a lot more to think about here and yes anyone selling like this at Christmas is the biggest red flag I have seen yet.
I don't pretend to 'know it all' and I am not judging anyone. I will speak up however, with what is plain old common sense.

ehunney · 11-13-2006, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine

To me protecting the welfare of any animal comes first. I will speak out and I did. If you doubt the Christmas puppy or bunnies at Easter as you call it 'Myth' talk to any animal shelter rescue you want to.
Yes purebreds do end up in shelters after Chrstmas, the ones that live that is.
As I posted Christmas is too dangerous a time to introduce a new baby into a home.
Much too easy to get out doors that are opened with visitors coming, getting into food and ??? at parties, stepped on, sat on, you name it or plain old forgotten while shut up in the laundry room and dying of a hypoglycemic attack because of all the stress and no one noticed.
The prospective owner may be fine to not step on or sit on the pup, but what about the visitors coming and going and new stuff for the pup to get into.
There is a lot more to think about here and yes anyone selling like this at Christmas is the biggest red flag I have seen yet.
I don't pretend to 'know it all' and I am not judging anyone. I will speak up however, with what is plain old common sense.

This does make sense, Christmas is a hectic time in general without adding a puppy to the mix and my local shelter does have a increase of animals, dogs included after the holidays.

red98vett · 11-13-2006, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Martinezfamily

Oh really? Tell me where you get your information... quote your source, back it up with proof and statistics, otherwise sounds to me like you are blowing smoke...

That's not very nice - I saw the posts - they were said very nicely and your reaction was a bit strong - they were just helping and there's no need to go off on people simply because they care about the puppies brought into the world....there was nothing rude or unkind in the previous posts.....and that IS young to be selling yorkie pups ....Christmas IS A BUSY TIME - and not the best time to get a very small young dog - you know people want to show off a new puppy and at the age it's already overwhelming for any very young puppy to go to a new home...let alone during the holidays

The replies you received were with good intentions - why not take them that way ???

LunasMomma · 11-13-2006, 07:56 AM

OMG, I got Luna at 9 weeks old, with no holiday things going on, and almost lost her to hypoglycemia! 6 weeks is way too young to let a puppy go to a new home, especially at Christmastime. And someone needs to get their big girl panties on and take the advice by the experienced folks here as it was meant, not as a personal attack

Maybe there should be a policy about these puppy for sale ads: That one has to be a long standing member (x amount of posts, or time here) before they can advertise any puppies for sale. It just seems to me that the ads that throw up the red flags have very little posts. Or am I nuts?

ehunney · 11-13-2006, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

That's not very nice - I saw the posts - they were said very nicely and your reaction was a bit strong - they were just helping and there's no need to go off on people simply because they care about the puppies brought into the world....there was nothing rude or unkind in the previous posts.....and that IS young to be selling yorkie pups ....Christmas IS A BUSY TIME - and not the best time to get a very small young dog - you know people want to show off a new puppy and at the age it's already overwhelming for any very young puppy to go to a new home...let alone during the holidays

The replies you received were with good intentions - why not take them that way ???

I am the first one to say something in for sale threads when I think members are being unfair or mean, but no one on this thread was. They obviously are trying to help you. Any puppy under 10 weeks is to young to go to a new home, and in some cases 10 weeks is still to young. I wish you and your puppies all the best

, but please don't walk away with the impression that they were attacking you, they were honestly trying to help.

Thorsmomma · 11-13-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LunasMomma

OMG, I got Luna at 9 weeks old, with no holiday things going on, and almost lost her to hypoglycemia! 6 weeks is way too young to let a puppy go to a new home, especially at Christmastime. And someone needs to get their big girl panties on and take the advice by the experienced folks here as it was meant, not as a personal attack

Maybe there should be a policy about these puppy for sale ads: That one has to be a long standing member (x amount of posts, or time here) before they can advertise any puppies for sale. It just seems to me that the ads that throw up the red flags have very little posts. Or am I nuts?

SERIOUSLY, DON'T DO THAT AGAIN!, You're killing me!!!

LunasMomma · 11-13-2006, 08:52 AM

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Sugar's Mom · 11-13-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LunasMomma

OMG, I got Luna at 9 weeks old, with no holiday things going on, and almost lost her to hypoglycemia! 6 weeks is way too young to let a puppy go to a new home, especially at Christmastime. And someone needs to get their big girl panties on and take the advice by the experienced folks here as it was meant, not as a personal attack

Maybe there should be a policy about these puppy for sale ads: That one has to be a long standing member (x amount of posts, or time here) before they can advertise any puppies for sale. It just seems to me that the ads that throw up the red flags have very little posts. Or am I nuts?

Good idea about the policy. There should also be one that says 'unless you are really interested in purchasing a puppy, we kindly ask you to refrain from posting on this thread."

LunasMomma · 11-13-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

Good idea about the policy. There should also be one that says 'unless you are really interested in purchasing a puppy, we kindly ask you to refrain from posting on this thread."

Point taken

11-13-2006, 04:32 AM	#16
Peters YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,225	anyone who advertises "christmas puppys" usually throw up red flags for people ! what are the weights of the parents? some people buy "christmas puppys" for people who may not even want or are ready for a puppy as a gift . the person buying a puppy doesn't ness. keep the puppy! __________________ A pet's love is true right from the start, through good times and bad, like sharing one heart.

11-13-2006, 05:51 AM	#17
Thorsmomma I Love Thor Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,177 Blog Entries: 1	I think Lorainne put that as kindly as she possible could. It didn't appear that she was accusing you of anything, just trying to be a helpful friend and share her love and knowledge of yorkies...for the welfare of your sweet pups. And that's not to say anyone thinks your stupid or that you don't know how to care for your puppies. Try and step back, and rather than taking this as a personal attack, take it as a friend reaching out. Have you found any homes yet? They are soo cute, thanks for sharing the pics! If only I could talk my BF into another puppy...I'm driving through OR in January!! Best of luck! __________________ Hannah & Thor & Harry The boys on DOGSTER

11-13-2006, 07:41 AM	#22
Lorraine Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Abbotsford, BC Posts: 2,060	To me protecting the welfare of any animal comes first. I will speak out and I did. If you doubt the Christmas puppy or bunnies at Easter as you call it 'Myth' talk to any animal shelter rescue you want to. Yes purebreds do end up in shelters after Chrstmas, the ones that live that is. As I posted Christmas is too dangerous a time to introduce a new baby into a home. Much too easy to get out doors that are opened with visitors coming, getting into food and ??? at parties, stepped on, sat on, you name it or plain old forgotten while shut up in the laundry room and dying of a hypoglycemic attack because of all the stress and no one noticed. The prospective owner may be fine to not step on or sit on the pup, but what about the visitors coming and going and new stuff for the pup to get into. There is a lot more to think about here and yes anyone selling like this at Christmas is the biggest red flag I have seen yet. I don't pretend to 'know it all' and I am not judging anyone. I will speak up however, with what is plain old common sense. __________________ Lorraine www.loribenyorkies.com Canada

11-13-2006, 07:56 AM	#25
LunasMomma Izzy's Momma Too! Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 8,799	OMG, I got Luna at 9 weeks old, with no holiday things going on, and almost lost her to hypoglycemia! 6 weeks is way too young to let a puppy go to a new home, especially at Christmastime. And someone needs to get their big girl panties on and take the advice by the experienced folks here as it was meant, not as a personal attack Maybe there should be a policy about these puppy for sale ads: That one has to be a long standing member (x amount of posts, or time here) before they can advertise any puppies for sale. It just seems to me that the ads that throw up the red flags have very little posts. Or am I nuts?

11-13-2006, 08:52 AM	#28
LunasMomma Izzy's Momma Too! Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 8,799	:P