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Old 10-13-2006, 07:25 PM   #61
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I personally do occassionally come here to read and every once in awhile post. It is a wonderful place to come here and learn more about this breed. But I do not attach my website or advertise my dogs. Alot of people come here, post on a thread or two and than start advertising their dogs right away. I believe that these people only come here for one reason to sell their dogs. I personally think the admin needs to change the policy for selling dogs on this forum. A person should have to be a member for so long and post on a descent amount of threads so that the members of this site get to know them better before they start selling their dogs right away.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:03 PM   #62
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Sweety Blues offers a wonderful video on how to do topknots and also one on show grooming. I own both of them and they are very helpful!
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Good luck on your upcoming show girl!
Thanks for the info, Deana had told me about these tapes, I am really hoping to find someone just to watch and ask questions as they are grooming thier or my dog.
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I see nothing wrong with show people placing ads here for their dogs instead of elsewhere. This is a step closer to what many "show people screen for" people already experience with the breed and that love this breed. That being said many of us didn't do our home work initially but with time have come to know what correct is. Why not show pet homes what better avenues are out there instead of your regular news paper puppy. Just cause we can't find you why can't you come out and try to find us , or the right home amungst us , which there are many here. I would have never know as many lines as I now now if it weren't for this site and believe me I now share many of these with ordinary people not because I know many show people but by what I feel is a better direction. Oh! show people are tired of being lied to and their dogs end up in bad situations. So this means anyone else interested in this breed and wanting to start has no hope. No one is willing to give you the time, knowledge, chance or wanting to heat what you have to say. Yet show people want to better the breed. I guess only by what the consider is correct as bigginers aren't giving a chance. Well that leaves us wanting to begging with only choice of foreign dogs with great pedigrees at reasonable prices with no strings attached. Quiet frankly many of the foreign critisized breeders demonstrate more consistancy with their breedings in producing better quality pups than those here in the US. Many US breeders are now jumping all over the foreing stock being offered. Forgot to mention that these so called show/reputable breeders detest the whole teacup trend but are the first to offer them at the same prices many times much higher in $$$$ than their actual show prospects. Hum! OH! its cause they require more care.
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Thanks for the info, Deana had told me about these tapes, I am really hoping to find someone just to watch and ask questions as they are grooming thier or my dog.
I own the "Grooming The Yorkshire Terrier " and I would say it is not worth it. I has good information but nothing you wouldn't already know. I really think it needs more detail direction and tips. I do hear the topknot video is very good though some german breeders I know love it. Forgot to mention I bought the Ena Lane s**t zu grroming video and that one is worse it has alot more to desire to its contents.
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I own the "Grooming The Yorkshire Terrier " and I would say it is not worth it. I has good information but nothing you wouldn't already know. I really think it needs more detail direction and tips. I do hear the topknot video is very good though some german breeders I know love it. Forgot to mention I bought the Ena Lane s**t zu grroming video and that one is worse it has alot more to desire to its contents.
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I'm still looking for that special someone to give me a few hours of thier time
I hope that if I ever get to the point of having little CH's running around my house that I don't forget where I started.
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I'm still looking for that special someone to give me a few hours of thier time
I hope that if I ever get to the point of having little CH's running around my house that I don't forget where I started.
I am no expert and don't even have show pups. I only have my pet girl which to me is my life but some time in the near future would like to acquire a show pup. I try to groom my girl as one would a show dog without the wrapping and her coat is floor length. I do know how to wrap though. I guess that outs me ahead of the game. Your prestigous girl is beautiful and I to commend Deana for openly giving bigginers a chance with her dogs.
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Your yorkie boy is simply gorgeous. Love his full tail and he looks so regal. I like his rich coloring. Very pretty. He has a very distinct look about him. I guess yorkietalk's very own members dont feel the people should be offered a yorkie like yours.


**"Thank you for offering him to us poor folk, its not often wes people gets oppurtunties likes this. Us peoples bred anything we can get our hands on. Wes luv to get our hands on em to maybe gets the other eye our yorkies ar supposed to have. Or maybe our yorkies could stand cus theys had to ride in a cart cause they cant stand on they poor deformed back legs."**

You all are not only taking a holier then thou attitude with the poster, but you are also demeaning members here.
Not all dogs from a show breeder are winners, alot of them are not even contenders. And not all show breeders are reputable. There are some pet breeders with higher standards.

After what I have seen and experienced at this time I have no desire to be a show breeder anymore. My agenda is different.
The only reputation I want to keep is my own, not worrying about what everyone else in the show circle thinks or says. I think you people are mean.
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well what about the show breeder that demands you MUST be their aid for months on end helping them groom and be their lacky outside the ring before they will sell them a dog, the promise goes on and on and on and then the day comes finally your puppy is born...BUT the show breeder decided to keep him/her for themself. Or what about the show breeder that promises next litter, then oops, OK next litter, oops still no puppy! Three years go by then what? Thank god this hasnt happend to me but I sure know of a few that it has.
In Canada this is so true, its is almost impossible to buy a yorkie with breeding rights unless you spend thousands (for pet quality) or for a yorkie several years old (still thousands). We only have one registry and it is not a common thing to buy a registered dog with breeding rights, its almost unheard of. I see so many dogs on YT with full registration from so many registries its mind boggleing (sp?).
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WHY does the ethcial show breeder come to Yorkie Talk?....educate, educate, educate, educate, educate, educate, educate, educate and educate ...the more a breeder or pet owner knows the better the life of their Yorkies...I adore the breed, if I can spare them one minute of needless pain and suffering, then I will have done my tiny part.
My family have known for years when they write my obit in the newspaper I want it to say.." a protector of the breed"..
Always do what is best for the breed, not your own personal feelings, your heart or your pocketbook...
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Prestigeous

Your yorkie boy is simply gorgeous. Love his full tail and he looks so regal. I like his rich coloring. Very pretty. He has a very distinct look about him. I guess yorkietalk's very own members dont feel the people should be offered a yorkie like yours.


**"Thank you for offering him to us poor folk, its not often wes people gets oppurtunties likes this. Us peoples bred anything we can get our hands on. Wes luv to get our hands on em to maybe gets the other eye our yorkies ar supposed to have. Or maybe our yorkies could stand cus theys had to ride in a cart cause they cant stand on they poor deformed back legs."**

You all are not only taking a holier then thou attitude with the poster, but you are also demeaning members here.
Not all dogs from a show breeder are winners, alot of them are not even contenders. And not all show breeders are reputable. There are some pet breeders with higher standards.

After what I have seen and experienced at this time I have no desire to be a show breeder anymore. My agenda is different.
The only reputation I want to keep is my own, not worrying about what everyone else in the show circle thinks or says. I think you people are mean.
Way to go girl...
You just said ..what a lot of us were thinking.
And Prestigeous your boy is simply gorgeous.
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WHY does the ethcial show breeder come to Yorkie Talk?....educate, educate, educate, educate, educate, educate, educate, educate and educate ...the more a breeder or pet owner knows the better the life of their Yorkies...I adore the breed, if I can spare them one minute of needless pain and suffering, then I will have done my tiny part.
My family have known for years when they write my obit in the newspaper I want it to say.." a protector of the breed"..
Always do what is best for the breed, not your own personal feelings, your heart or your pocketbook...
I agree it is great to share your info of this breed and to do your part, but I don't think anyone has the right to bash people and I see so many posts, actually if you go back and look under certain peoples posts it seems they may be unhappy in life period, I dont see many posts that are in a cheerful mood from them. I am not talking about you. But I will tell you that slamming these people and me has nothing at all to do with ethics at all. You actually are going to turn them off from the show world and breeding responsibly with this attitude. It is the same thing you have in schools it is simply bullying plain and simple. It is quite a shame and if someone feels that is being a responsible breeder I am sorry but its not. I feel dogs pick up on whats in our heart and thats kinda scarey for dogs to feel that vibe from their owners.
My dog was posted for sale to a responsible home and I do screen for that. If this was all about the almighty buck I have been offered more for him from a few people who I would not place him.
Pet people are the best and they sometimes evolve into the next show person to carry on this lovely breed. I know many of us started as a pet owner who was totally smitten by the breed and just had to get into showing with the idea that we would have so much fun because after all we all love this breed and we are all on the same team Team Yorkie.
I love this breed and my babies are my family thats why I own this breed.
You guys have a wonderful weekend,
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I agree it is great to share your info of this breed and to do your part, but I don't think anyone has the right to bash people and I see so many posts, actually if you go back and look under certain peoples posts it seems they may be unhappy in life period, I dont see many posts that are in a cheerful mood from them. I am not talking about you. But I will tell you that slamming these people and me has nothing at all to do with ethics at all. You actually are going to turn them off from the show world and breeding responsibly with this attitude. It is the same thing you have in schools it is simply bullying plain and simple. It is quite a shame and if someone feels that is being a responsible breeder I am sorry but its not. I feel dogs pick up on whats in our heart and thats kinda scarey for dogs to feel that vibe from their owners.
My dog was posted for sale to a responsible home and I do screen for that. If this was all about the almighty buck I have been offered more for him from a few people who I would not place him.
Pet people are the best and they sometimes evolve into the next show person to carry on this lovely breed. I know many of us started as a pet owner who was totally smitten by the breed and just had to get into showing with the idea that we would have so much fun because after all we all love this breed and we are all on the same team Team Yorkie.
I love this breed and my babies are my family thats why I own this breed.
You guys have a wonderful weekend,
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I agree it is great to share your info of this breed and to do your part, but I don't think anyone has the right to bash people and I see so many posts, actually if you go back and look under certain peoples posts it seems they may be unhappy in life period, I dont see many posts that are in a cheerful mood from them. I am not talking about you. But I will tell you that slamming these people and me has nothing at all to do with ethics at all. You actually are going to turn them off from the show world and breeding responsibly with this attitude. It is the same thing you have in schools it is simply bullying plain and simple. It is quite a shame and if someone feels that is being a responsible breeder I am sorry but its not. I feel dogs pick up on whats in our heart and thats kinda scarey for dogs to feel that vibe from their owners.
My dog was posted for sale to a responsible home and I do screen for that. If this was all about the almighty buck I have been offered more for him from a few people who I would not place him.
Pet people are the best and they sometimes evolve into the next show person to carry on this lovely breed. I know many of us started as a pet owner who was totally smitten by the breed and just had to get into showing with the idea that we would have so much fun because after all we all love this breed and we are all on the same team Team Yorkie.
I love this breed and my babies are my family thats why I own this breed.
You guys have a wonderful weekend,
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Kimberly is right,
I am one of the lucky one that has a Prestigeous girl, she is gorgeous, I have been taking her to conformation classes, hoping that someday soon I will be able to show her. The classes are more for me than her. I am the "Novice" that you are talking about. Deana trusted me with one of her girls, and I am going to do the best that I can to do right by her. Thanks again Deana.
I understand why you are so careful with your lines, but not all of us are going to turn around and stab you in the back.
I think that if you go back and read the ad, the dog she has posted is not from her breedings, he just didn't have the look they wanted, so is it wrong to post a dog for sale on this forum because it has CH lines, that it might be a great asset to someone elses family? What happened to the "breeders helping other breeders" Seems like all that some of you are doing is condeming.
Oh and by the way, back to the breeders helping other breeders, Yorkie Rose(FL) or DazzlinYT(TN) either one of you know of someone that lives somewhat near AL that would teach me proper show grooming-topknots, ect.
Unfortunatly WV is just to far for me to go at this time.
Okay this one I have to reply to ........ I am sure glad you are one of the " Lucky Ones " !! As I am sure there are others that are not so LUCKY ! In particular there is a nice couple in Canada that recently bought a male from Prestigious , was this male SHOW as promised ? NO it is a 2.2 pound dog with a terrible roach and a nasty temparment to boot! He can not be used for breeding or for show in Canada , he is too small he is not going to meet the standard , he is so off in personality he most likely will not even show- so what should Prestigious do with this male they advertise on here for sale ?? Send him to CANDA and make right one situation before jumping into another - good money was sent LONG in advance of this dog ever being deemed as " Show Quality " as if you could determin show quality at 6 weeks of age ?? - the dog has no reg papers, and no identification ... it goes on - so what would I say - send this male to CAnada and clear this mess up

As for advertising on this forum , it is simple - when you want to place a dog quick and without much care , place it on here - someone unknowingly will grab the dog and the money is sent , easy !

As for bashing the YTCA - and the Reputiable breeders that drip blood for these dogs when needed, there is nothing you can say , they do what is best for the dog - Bottom Line - nothing else matters, and this my listeners is a trait we should all adopt !!! There is a differance between prodoucing to market and prodoucing to imporve the breed, show the results to many many thousands of dollars , and pet the rest with strick contracts- the ethical hobbiest who places their lives into this , does not seek money - NEWS FLASH - at the end of the day there is no surplus there is a deficit, and the love still goes on , and the shows go forward and the breed thrives with imporvement - this is what it is all about - its not about bashing , money , quick sales to whoever will take the first bite, its about dedication and sacrifice . The YTCA is a group of dedicated people whos goal is to protect the breed , and the members should follow and the majority do !
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The YTCA is a group of dedicated people whos goal is to protect the breed , and the members should follow and the majority do !

Ill repeat this, BYB's wouldnt be producing "out of standard" yorkies if the YTCA was truely dedicated in protecting this breed.

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