10 Days Old and Two of Four Still Available!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by pnsyorkies

mind if I copy this ... I'd like to ask my vet a few questions . Ive had all of my adults tested but I still worry about this .... I have gotten some new lines recently and have had them tested also .. with sonigram and blood and spent alot of money having this all checked out ...I have not had one ... that I know of so far but I do worry about new lines and joining them into my breeding program ... some people will not be honest with you about their dogs we all know this ...

thanks thought Id ask first ...
Pat

Which post are you asking to copy?

[red98vett]

What an interesting thread. I know some people are looking at this as a 'debate' or attack - and others are looking at it as full of information. I happen to be in the 2nd catagory... When someone wants to sell yorkies ONLINE, possibly to a member here - we SHOULD speak up. Especially if things just don't seem kosher. (selling puppies very young) I only wish I had a site like this back 4-1/2 years ago when I was looking for my 1st yorkie.

For those who jump in upset about the posts....This site is TAME compared to others I've seen on the net - I get tired of people saying YT bashes people - With the THOUSANDS of posts on a daily basis - this site is far from a 'bash' site. Try to look at the information here and remember how many people may be reading that have NO idea what to look for in a puppy.

IF someone sells Yorkies way too young on a public site and no one said anything - that seems to me like an endorsement - and next thing we'll be seeing is more and more For Sale ads just like this one.

Chipperdancing - Good luck selling your puppies I do think you're selling them too young - but I have no room to talk - I bought my Chanel at 6 weeks...all I can say is I hope you find someone experienced with young TINY puppies - I was clueless & because of that I almost lost her the 1st week I had her. (she had coccidia but at 1 lb. she easily could have died)

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by red98vett

What an interesting thread. I know some people are looking at this as a 'debate' or attack - and others are looking at it as full of information. I happen to be in the 2nd catagory... When someone wants to sell yorkies ONLINE, possibly to a member here - we SHOULD speak up. Especially if things just don't seem kosher. (selling puppies very young) I only wish I had a site like this back 4-1/2 years ago when I was looking for my 1st yorkie.

For those who jump in upset about the posts....This site is TAME compared to others I've seen on the net - I get tired of people saying YT bashes people - With the THOUSANDS of posts on a daily basis - this site is far from a 'bash' site. Try to look at the information here and remember how many people may be reading that have NO idea what to look for in a puppy.

IF someone sells Yorkies way too young on a public site and no one said anything - that seems to me like an endorsement - and next thing we'll be seeing is more and more For Sale ads just like this one.

Chipperdancing - Good luck selling your puppies I do think you're selling them too young - but I have no room to talk - I bought my Chanel at 6 weeks...all I can say is I hope you find someone experienced with young TINY puppies - I was clueless & because of that I almost lost her the 1st week I had her. (she had coccidia but at 1 lb. she easily could have died)

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by chipperdancing

Please be sure and read up on Hypoglycemia due to Irresponsible breeding of TINY puppies. This is killing more Yorkie puppies in a single year than Liver Shunt does in 10 years.

THIS comment above bears repeating - I totally agree - don't know about the ratio but we sure are seeing way too many sick or dying puppies - both with LS AND hypoglycemia/seizures....and speaking from experience - only for the Grace of God did Chanel survive her first few weeks with me - if it wasn't for a middle of the night SCARY Trip to emergency I wouldn't have her now

and I wasn't trying to preachy....but this IS a discussion Board - If someone wants to read straight FOR SALE ADS - they can read Petfinder.com ....which I HOPE YT would never emulates

edited to add....I BET the puppies are sold - especially after this LONG LONG thread with almost 2,000 views

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by red98vett

edited to add....I BET the puppies are sold - especially after this LONG LONG thread with almost 2,000 views

Unfortunately, this may be true. I just hope that a fellow yorkietalk member hasn't been naive enough to do it.

[DazzlinYT]

Well it wont be long then til we get posts on the "sick" thread of people with their new puppies who have NO CLUE how to care for them.

Originally Posted by txshopper73

Unfortunately, this may be true. I just hope that a fellow yorkietalk member hasn't been naive enough to do it.

[k2p1e]

Very true, which will be followed by a thread of complaining about a bad breeder who sold them sick puppies. Funny how people who have done their homework rarely have these problems and when they do they are back by their breeder, by their vet and are prepared....

Hopefully this thread will educate someone, people ar ein such a rush to find a great deal on a puppy they do not stop to think that this "cheap" puppy will end up costing them 5 x' s as much in vet bills and much more heartache.

What blows my mind is how soemone declares that they "know" that puppies are fine when they leave at 5-6 weeks...ahh hello??? Did you go to vet school?? DO you have years of research backing up this theory???? Personally I believe the vets have more knowledge on puppy rearing and socialization and the large poster on their wall states that puppies are best left with their mothers till 12 weeks regardless of breed!!

I rest my case...

[chipperdancing]

I am sorry, SORRY, SORR-REEE! I APOLOGIZE!! I APOLOGIZE TO ALL 95 REPLIES OF YOU!!! AND, I APOLOGIZE TO THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS YORKIETALK FORUM!

I PROMISE I WILL NOT, NOT, NOT TRADE, SELL, AUCTION OR BARTER THESE PUPPIES BEFORE THEY HAVE REACHED THE FULL SALEABLE AGE AS DETERMINED BY RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS, THE GRACE OF GOD AND THE LAWS OF THE LAND.

THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT LEAVE THEIR MOTHER'S FURRY ARMS UNTIL THEY HAVE RECEIVED FULL MEDICAL CLEARANCE, MASTERED ALL THE EXPECTED AND REQUIRED SOCIALIZATION SKILLS WITH ABOVE AVERAGE MARKS AND, VERY POSSIBLY, NOT UNTIL THEY'VE MATURATED AND THEIR TESTICLES HAVE DROPPED!

IN ADDITION, I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE TO ALL THE FLOPPY EARED YORKIES OUT THERE ~ A LITTLE COSMETIC SURGERY NEVER HURT ANYONE! AND, I BEG ALL THE SHORT FURRED, LONG LEGGED YORKIES OUT THERE TO FORGIVE ME FOR RUDELY QUESTIONING YOUR PARENTAGE! FURTHERMORE, I AM SO ASHAMED THAT I WOULD ATTACK THE PATIO PEE'ER'S, YAPPERS AND PORKY YORKIES ~ I AM TOTALLY ASHAMED THAT I WOULD EVEN MENTION ANY OF THESE UNAVOIDABLE EMBARRASSING PHYSICAL CONDITIONS IN PUBLIC, AND EVEN MORE SO TO DO IT ON YORKIETALK!

IN ADDITION, I CANNOT BELIEVE I EVER ENTERTAINED THE THOUGHT THAT MY $900 YORKIES WOULD SATISFY MY FINANCIAL NEEDS ~ HOW UTTERLY DISGUSTING OF ME TO PUT MY BELOVED LITTLE "MINI" THROUGH THE PANGS AND PAINS OF BIRTHING AND NURSING AND, NOW RAISING FOUR LITTLE FURBALLS AS A MEANS OF SUPPLEMENTING MY RETIREMENT FUND!

I ALSO WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE MISINFORMATION ! IT WAS NEVER MY INTENTION IN ANY WAY INFER, GIVE THE IMPRESSION OR OTHERWISE LEAD ANYONE TO BELIEVE THAT LITTLE INFANT "BLUE" IS OR WILL BE QUALIFIED TO ENTER THE EKANUBA CHAMPIONSHIP HALL OF FAME -MY SIMPLE, HOWEVER IGNORANT INTENTION SIMPLY MEANT HE IS A BLUE/GOLD (WITHOUT ANY WHITE) AND WILL, IF IT PLEASES THE GODS THAT RULE, MEET AKC STANDARDS IN ANY LOCAL "SHOW AND TELL" ~ ALONG WITH MR. TURTLE AND ROBBIE RABBIT.

TO ALL THE EXPERIENCED, KNOWLEDGEABLE AND WONDERFULLY HELPFUL BREEDERS OUT THERE ~ AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ~ I WANT YOU TO KNOW I HIGHLY RESPECT YOU, HAVE LEARNED FROM YOU AND I HOLD YOU IN THE HIGHEST ESTEEM AND I MORE THAN APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TAUGHT ME ~ TO YOU, I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE AND INSULTING REMARKS.

AND, TO THE REST OF YOU ~ AND YOU, ALSO, KNOW WHO YOU ARE ~ I'M SORRY I INSULTED YOUR SENSITIVITIES, HURT YOUR FEELINGS AND MADE YOU ANGRY. I'VE BEEN ON YORKIETALK LONG ENOUGH TO SEE OTHER MEMBERS ATTACKED ~ BUT I'VE ALWAYS LOGGED OUT. I NOW AM AWARE OF HOW CANNIBALISTIC PUBLIC FORUMS CAN BE ~ HAVING BEEN EATEN ALIVE BY YOU. IN A DIFFERENT TIME AND PLACE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN TARRED AND FEATHERED, IF NOT BURNED AT THE STAKE.

IN MY LIFE I HAVE LEARNED CERTAIN TRUTHS AND I THINK THEY ALL APPLY NOW:

I've learned that it takes years to build up trust, and it only takes suspicion, not proof, to destroy it.

I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

I've learned that I shouldn't compare myself to others - they're more screwed up than I am.

I've learned that no matter how much I try, sometimes I'm just a jackass.

And, I've learned, this too shall pass.

If I've missed anything, if I've missed anyone, to it and to you I also apologize.

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by chipperdancing

I am sorry, SORRY, SORR-REEE! I APOLOGIZE!! I APOLOGIZE TO ALL 95 REPLIES OF YOU!!! AND, I APOLOGIZE TO THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS YORKIETALK FORUM!

I PROMISE I WILL NOT, NOT, NOT TRADE, SELL, AUCTION OR BARTER THESE PUPPIES BEFORE THEY HAVE REACHED THE FULL SALEABLE AGE AS DETERMINED BY RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS, THE GRACE OF GOD AND THE LAWS OF THE LAND.

THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT LEAVE THEIR MOTHER'S FURRY ARMS UNTIL THEY HAVE RECEIVED FULL MEDICAL CLEARANCE, MASTERED ALL THE EXPECTED AND REQUIRED SOCIALIZATION SKILLS WITH ABOVE AVERAGE MARKS AND, VERY POSSIBLY, NOT UNTIL THEY'VE MATURATED AND THEIR TESTICLES HAVE DROPPED!

IN ADDITION, I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE TO ALL THE FLOPPY EARED YORKIES OUT THERE ~ A LITTLE COSMETIC SURGERY NEVER HURT ANYONE! AND, I BEG ALL THE SHORT FURRED, LONG LEGGED YORKIES OUT THERE TO FORGIVE ME FOR RUDELY QUESTIONING YOUR PARENTAGE! FURTHERMORE, I AM SO ASHAMED THAT I WOULD ATTACK THE PATIO PEE'ER'S, YAPPERS AND PORKY YORKIES ~ I AM TOTALLY ASHAMED THAT I WOULD EVEN MENTION ANY OF THESE UNAVOIDABLE EMBARRASSING PHYSICAL CONDITIONS IN PUBLIC, AND EVEN MORE SO TO DO IT ON YORKIETALK!

IN ADDITION, I CANNOT BELIEVE I EVER ENTERTAINED THE THOUGHT THAT MY $900 YORKIES WOULD SATISFY MY FINANCIAL NEEDS ~ HOW UTTERLY DISGUSTING OF ME TO PUT MY BELOVED LITTLE "MINI" THROUGH THE PANGS AND PAINS OF BIRTHING AND NURSING AND, NOW RAISING FOUR LITTLE FURBALLS AS A MEANS OF SUPPLEMENTING MY RETIREMENT FUND!

I ALSO WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE MISINFORMATION ! IT WAS NEVER MY INTENTION IN ANY WAY INFER, GIVE THE IMPRESSION OR OTHERWISE LEAD ANYONE TO BELIEVE THAT LITTLE INFANT "BLUE" IS OR WILL BE QUALIFIED TO ENTER THE EKANUBA CHAMPIONSHIP HALL OF FAME -MY SIMPLE, HOWEVER IGNORANT INTENTION SIMPLY MEANT HE IS A BLUE/GOLD (WITHOUT ANY WHITE) AND WILL, IF IT PLEASES THE GODS THAT RULE, MEET AKC STANDARDS IN ANY LOCAL "SHOW AND TELL" ~ ALONG WITH MR. TURTLE AND ROBBIE RABBIT.

TO ALL THE EXPERIENCED, KNOWLEDGEABLE AND WONDERFULLY HELPFUL BREEDERS OUT THERE ~ AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ~ I WANT YOU TO KNOW I HIGHLY RESPECT YOU, HAVE LEARNED FROM YOU AND I HOLD YOU IN THE HIGHEST ESTEEM AND I MORE THAN APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TAUGHT ME ~ TO YOU, I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE AND INSULTING REMARKS.

AND, TO THE REST OF YOU ~ AND YOU, ALSO, KNOW WHO YOU ARE ~ I'M SORRY I INSULTED YOUR SENSITIVITIES, HURT YOUR FEELINGS AND MADE YOU ANGRY. I'VE BEEN ON YORKIETALK LONG ENOUGH TO SEE OTHER MEMBERS ATTACKED ~ BUT I'VE ALWAYS LOGGED OUT. I NOW AM AWARE OF HOW CANNIBALISTIC PUBLIC FORUMS CAN BE ~ HAVING BEEN EATEN ALIVE BY YOU. IN A DIFFERENT TIME AND PLACE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN TARRED AND FEATHERED, IF NOT BURNED AT THE STAKE.

IN MY LIFE I HAVE LEARNED CERTAIN TRUTHS AND I THINK THEY ALL APPLY NOW:

I've learned that it takes years to build up trust, and it only takes suspicion, not proof, to destroy it.

I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

I've learned that I shouldn't compare myself to others - they're more screwed up than I am.

I've learned that no matter how much I try, sometimes I'm just a jackass.

And, I've learned, this too shall pass.

If I've missed anything, if I've missed anyone, to it and to you I also apologize.

Chipper, you see upset. I'm sorry and I really hope that you have learned to do the right things for your breeding program and your puppies and mom. I don't think those here mean to be hurtful but are upset at your excuses and maybe perhaps feel you are showing a lack of care or responsibility. Please do the right thing and all the best to you and your puppies.

[vainchick5]

Originally Posted by chipperdancing

I am sorry, SORRY, SORR-REEE! I APOLOGIZE!! I APOLOGIZE TO ALL 95 REPLIES OF YOU!!! AND, I APOLOGIZE TO THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS YORKIETALK FORUM!

I PROMISE I WILL NOT, NOT, NOT TRADE, SELL, AUCTION OR BARTER THESE PUPPIES BEFORE THEY HAVE REACHED THE FULL SALEABLE AGE AS DETERMINED BY RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS, THE GRACE OF GOD AND THE LAWS OF THE LAND.

THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT LEAVE THEIR MOTHER'S FURRY ARMS UNTIL THEY HAVE RECEIVED FULL MEDICAL CLEARANCE, MASTERED ALL THE EXPECTED AND REQUIRED SOCIALIZATION SKILLS WITH ABOVE AVERAGE MARKS AND, VERY POSSIBLY, NOT UNTIL THEY'VE MATURATED AND THEIR TESTICLES HAVE DROPPED!

IN ADDITION, I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE TO ALL THE FLOPPY EARED YORKIES OUT THERE ~ A LITTLE COSMETIC SURGERY NEVER HURT ANYONE! AND, I BEG ALL THE SHORT FURRED, LONG LEGGED YORKIES OUT THERE TO FORGIVE ME FOR RUDELY QUESTIONING YOUR PARENTAGE! FURTHERMORE, I AM SO ASHAMED THAT I WOULD ATTACK THE PATIO PEE'ER'S, YAPPERS AND PORKY YORKIES ~ I AM TOTALLY ASHAMED THAT I WOULD EVEN MENTION ANY OF THESE UNAVOIDABLE EMBARRASSING PHYSICAL CONDITIONS IN PUBLIC, AND EVEN MORE SO TO DO IT ON YORKIETALK!

IN ADDITION, I CANNOT BELIEVE I EVER ENTERTAINED THE THOUGHT THAT MY $900 YORKIES WOULD SATISFY MY FINANCIAL NEEDS ~ HOW UTTERLY DISGUSTING OF ME TO PUT MY BELOVED LITTLE "MINI" THROUGH THE PANGS AND PAINS OF BIRTHING AND NURSING AND, NOW RAISING FOUR LITTLE FURBALLS AS A MEANS OF SUPPLEMENTING MY RETIREMENT FUND!

I ALSO WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE MISINFORMATION ! IT WAS NEVER MY INTENTION IN ANY WAY INFER, GIVE THE IMPRESSION OR OTHERWISE LEAD ANYONE TO BELIEVE THAT LITTLE INFANT "BLUE" IS OR WILL BE QUALIFIED TO ENTER THE EKANUBA CHAMPIONSHIP HALL OF FAME -MY SIMPLE, HOWEVER IGNORANT INTENTION SIMPLY MEANT HE IS A BLUE/GOLD (WITHOUT ANY WHITE) AND WILL, IF IT PLEASES THE GODS THAT RULE, MEET AKC STANDARDS IN ANY LOCAL "SHOW AND TELL" ~ ALONG WITH MR. TURTLE AND ROBBIE RABBIT.

TO ALL THE EXPERIENCED, KNOWLEDGEABLE AND WONDERFULLY HELPFUL BREEDERS OUT THERE ~ AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ~ I WANT YOU TO KNOW I HIGHLY RESPECT YOU, HAVE LEARNED FROM YOU AND I HOLD YOU IN THE HIGHEST ESTEEM AND I MORE THAN APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TAUGHT ME ~ TO YOU, I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE AND INSULTING REMARKS.

AND, TO THE REST OF YOU ~ AND YOU, ALSO, KNOW WHO YOU ARE ~ I'M SORRY I INSULTED YOUR SENSITIVITIES, HURT YOUR FEELINGS AND MADE YOU ANGRY. I'VE BEEN ON YORKIETALK LONG ENOUGH TO SEE OTHER MEMBERS ATTACKED ~ BUT I'VE ALWAYS LOGGED OUT. I NOW AM AWARE OF HOW CANNIBALISTIC PUBLIC FORUMS CAN BE ~ HAVING BEEN EATEN ALIVE BY YOU. IN A DIFFERENT TIME AND PLACE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN TARRED AND FEATHERED, IF NOT BURNED AT THE STAKE.

IN MY LIFE I HAVE LEARNED CERTAIN TRUTHS AND I THINK THEY ALL APPLY NOW:

I've learned that it takes years to build up trust, and it only takes suspicion, not proof, to destroy it.

I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

I've learned that I shouldn't compare myself to others - they're more screwed up than I am.

I've learned that no matter how much I try, sometimes I'm just a jackass.

And, I've learned, this too shall pass.

If I've missed anything, if I've missed anyone, to it and to you I also apologize.

If this doesn't sound sarcastic, I don't know what does. Maybe next time you should post your 5 week old puppies on a website where people are idiots and they will purchase them. We, here at YT, know better than that. Some might have gone that route once, but we've all learned and know better. I'm sure you will still continue selling them early. If you have any compassion at all, you would stop selling them so early. The puppy and the new owners are the ones that have to suffer. The puppy is usually sick and the owners suffer the loss of the baby because the so called "breeder" thought they can drop the puppies expenses on someone else or they just didn't care.

[Yorkie3]

How about closing this thread now? We got her point(although we disagree) and she got our point (although she disagrees). Let's move on, shall we?

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Yorkie3

How about closing this thread now? We got her point(although we disagree) and she got our point (although she disagrees). Let's move on, shall we?

I agree

[txshopper73]

WOWSERS!

[Saleswman]

Bottom line......I wouldn't do it or support any breeder that does....no matter how much "show potential" that is implied.

So, I will continue to search....LOL

[ninasmom]

5 to 6 wks is to young to sell. I agree with everyone else on this.