10 Days Old and Two of Four Still Available!

[pnsyorkies]

Originally Posted by yorkykisses

This is what upsets me more than anything else! THE REASON TO LIVER SHUNT TEST YOUR BREEDERS ALONG WITH ANY OFF SPRINGS IS TO POSITIVELY MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE BREEDING WITH CLEAN LINES AND YOU ARE NOT PASSING THE LIVER SHUNT GENE ON! My personal opinion is that if someone is breeding to better the breed and to make sure they are getting clean off springs from their breeders is to do the proper test. Also just because your breeders may test negative for liver shunt does NOT mean they cannot pass it on to their off springs. I am quite positive that someone would pay alittle more for their puppy if they know that the acid bile test has been done on their puppy to make sure the puppy is healthy. I have purchased a puppy with liver shunt before and I would NEVER want to put someone else through that heartbreak! Let alone the $2300.00 it cost to fix the external shunt.

I applaud breeders who do care and do have thier offspring checked . I have kept many of my offpring just for the pure reason of testing them .... for not just this but other things as well luxating patellas and many other things that afflict this breed from time to time ..

[Susanbee51]

10-27-2005, 08:04 PM #1 chipperdancing
The "C" Section was at 1:30pm this afternoon, the cork stopper is a beautiful little girl weighing 5oz., and two boys, one 4.9oz. and one 4.2oz. I brought all three straight home and fed them.
This is Mini's first breeding, she doesn't seem to want anything to do with her babies~ HELP!

Yesterday, 04:08 PM #19 chipperdancing
I have bred her twice, both times on her 9th and 12th day. Both times one pup has been 7 or 8 ounces larger than the others. More than one Breeder has suggested the larger pup came from the first tie, getting somewhat of a headstart over the others.

Now please correct me if I am wrong, but the 10-27 post mentions nothing about a pup weighing 7 or 8 ounces more than the others. And which is it, 7 or 8? Her first litter on 10-27 showed that all weights were within an ounce of each other.

If the pups came from different ties, I cannot imagine that much difference in the weight.

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by Susanbee51

10-27-2005, 08:04 PM #1 chipperdancing
The "C" Section was at 1:30pm this afternoon, the cork stopper is a beautiful little girl weighing 5oz., and two boys, one 4.9oz. and one 4.2oz. I brought all three straight home and fed them.
This is Mini's first breeding, she doesn't seem to want anything to do with her babies~ HELP!

Yesterday, 04:08 PM #19 chipperdancing
I have bred her twice, both times on her 9th and 12th day. Both times one pup has been 7 or 8 ounces larger than the others. More than one Breeder has suggested the larger pup came from the first tie, getting somewhat of a headstart over the others.

Now please correct me if I am wrong, but the 10-27 post mentions nothing about a pup weighing 7 or 8 ounces more than the others. And which is it, 7 or 8? Her first litter on 10-27 showed that all weights were within an ounce of each other.

If the pups came from different ties, I cannot imagine that much difference in the weight.

hmmm... Interesting!

[Susanbee51]

I have had the good fortune to be able, in the last 10 months, watch several litters of Yorkies, from birth to adoption. I have recently been watching the interaction of puppies 7 weeks old. It breaks my heart that when I got my little girl at 6 weeks, she was cheated out of this time with her litter mates. I had to teach her how to bark. When I got her, she was eating dry puppy food soaked in water to mush. She did not know how to drink water either out of a bowl or a lickit. The breeder cheated my little girl out of learning the things that she needed to learn. She was cheated out of socialization skills as well.

I look at these little 7 week old pups and realize my little girl was smaller than they are when I got her.

So no matter what you say and how much you try and convince yourself and others, these puppies are definately not ready to leave at 5-6 weeks of age. They are just getting their sea legs.

I also take offense that you would call a 13-14 lb yorkie a "Porkie-Yorkie". WRONG!!!!!!! I fell in love with one that I saw and thought she was absolutely beautiful.

And....."IF" what you say is true and you had a puppy, 7 or 8 ounces larger than the others, what guarantee do you have that you would not be selling a larger than standard.

If the 7-8 ounce pup had to have weighed at least 11-12 ounces at birth. Large puppy, huh!!!!!!!!!

[Susanbee51]

This should be the last thing I post.

Originally Posted by chipperdancing

Our "Mini", 5lb., (AKC Precious Princess Minute) and "The Mick", 3.5bls, (AKC Feisty Michelob) produced their second litter of four on August 27th! It was 'touch and go' the entire time since everyone involved, owners & Mini (who had a 'c' section last year) had NEVER ever even seen babies born, much less participated!
Our "Mini" came through like the little 5lb champ she is, and never even went into hard labor ~ thus proving all the "nay sayers" wrong ~ a 'c' section can follow with a natural birth!

The babies, 3 males and 1 female, 10 days old are fat and happy! We nicknamed them "BK", "Sirius", "Twinkle Toes" & "Blue" ~ all will be between 3.5lbs and 5lbs when grown! "Sirius" and "Twinkle" are sold.

If anyone out there in Oregon or California is looking for beautiful, small males ~ "BK" and "Blue" are Blue Chip Specials. Especially "Blue", he meets AKC standards to a "T" - Blue/Gold and NO white! He's the smallest in the litter and SHOW QUALITY! I can deliver anywhere from Eugene, OR to San Diego, CA as long as it's near I-5. And, if you purchase off Yorkietalk I will sell them at last years price, $900.00 each.

We are just a home in Southern Oregon devoted to our Yorkies, we are not professional Breeders ~ these are quality pups from championship lines. This will probably be "Mini's" last litter, she's too small and not strong enough for four at a time ~ if she is bred again, it will be for one pup at a time only.

Your name: James and Noel Parker

Your city, state: Coos Bay, OR
Your phone number: 541 888-4128
Your email address: chipperdancing@verizon.net

Yorkie(s) For Sale: Two males born August 27, 2006

Age of Yorkie(s): 10 days as of September 5th, 2006

Weight of Yorkie(s) parents: Dam 5lbs. Sire 3.5lbs.

Current weight of Yorkie(s) for sale: "Bk" @ 7 4/10th ounces
and "Blue" @ 7 2/10 ounces.
Registration if any (AKC, etc): Litter AKC Registered
Price: $900.00 each
Age when puppies will be ready to be taken home: Hopefully I will travel South from Oregon to San Diego, CA and can deliver enroute when puppies are 5-6 weeks, have first vaccinations and are feeding themselves and self-sufficient. This worked well last year with the first litter as I have family in Southern California and will meet adoptive parents and deliver puppies enroute.
Do you ship your Yorkies: NO

We do NOT ALLOW any Yorkies for sale if you personally aren't selling them yourself unless approved in advance by us. We have had too many issues and problems of members "selling for their friend, etc." If they want to post a Yorkie for sale, let them create their OWN YorkieTalk account and post the details themselves. We will NOT ALLOW any brokers, puppy mills, agents, or anyone posting Yorkies for sale if they are not in your possession. You MUST have the Yorkie(s) in your possession if you want to post in here unless you have permission in advance.

Also, please put your location (city, state) in the thread. Coos Bay, OR

Which is it? James and Noel Parker or
William & Rhonda Kent - (541) 888-4128 -

[Chrissy0277]

Can someone tell me this secret of determining show quailty at just a few weeks old lol? This way when my pup is hopfully born. Bitch was just bred (no not mine, im not a breeder) I can go and look at these few week old pups and say I want that one, that one is going to be a champion.
Oh well I can wish cant I?

[Saleswman]

You guys have been extremely cordial to Chipper......much nicer than my thoughts.....


Ah, ah, ah, ........oh hell......some people are just plain, "clueless"


Lets move on.....

[candybaby]

Originally Posted by yorkykisses

I am sorry, but I totally disagree with you. This particular litter of puppies at 10 weeks of age do not even have their eyes open. Let alone the fact they are not even old enough to do any testing, including a complete blood panel or a liver shunt test! I honestly feel that when people start advertising their puppies at this age they are only breeding for the profit they can make off of their dogs! Even the breeder does NOT know what quality these puppies will be at this young of an age, let alone state that one is show quality. I cannot believe that people think this is a reputable thing to do.

If your puppies eyes are not open by 10 weeks old then I would say you have a serious defected puppy. Puppies eyes usually open by 2 weeks old.

[DazzlinYT]

Meeshu though your furbaby is adorable, and obviously very loved...I have to tend to agree here, something must have "jumped the fence" and had a romance with her mommy. And you are right, at 8 weeks, I'm sure she looked pretty much like she should .. it's just too young to tell anything. Glad you learned a valuable lesson, sorry it was the hard way.

Originally Posted by meeshue

Ok all, I sat here for 15 minutes and read this whole thread and I would like to share my experience. I purchased my yorkie at 8weeks. From a byb which I had no idea existed untill I found this site. When we brought our pup home she did not even know how to drink water out of a bowl by herself!!!!!!! My husband sat with her for a couple of hours trying to teach her. And as for her dry puppy food, well there was no way she was going to chew that. We had to moisten it for her. Also at 8 weeks she had a very short coat and when I asked about that the breeder told me she is still a baby and it will come in fast. Yah right!!!!!!!! She is almost a year old and still no hair on her head. Look at my avatar. My vet and I believe she is a mix even though I have ckc papers saying she is pure. Well to make a long story short, at 8 weeks you cannot tell for sure if you go to a byb that the pup you are getting is pure. I wish I found this site before I jumped into getting her. I would have know to ask many more questions of the breeder. Don't get me wrong we love her with all our hearts. I am just saying that people need to get educated when it comes to buying a little furbaby. And yes take it from me 8 weeks was way to early for my baby to leave her mom. I cannot imagine one being taken away at 5 or 6 weeks. Even after we realized she was not purebred and I contacted the breeder she still states that there are no other dogs in her program that could have mixed with her female.. Personaly I think she is a liar and was in it only for the money. Please everyone choose an experienced breeder! I will for my next yorkie which will be very soon I hope. meeshue

[yorkykisses]

Originally Posted by candybaby

If your puppies eyes are not open by 10 weeks old then I would say you have a serious defected puppy. Puppies eyes usually open by 2 weeks old.

Funny out of all the things wrong in the start of this thread that you would only catch the typo! Incase you do not get what I am trying to convey is this, I meant 10 DAYS NOT 10 WEEKS! I would also like to add that NOT all puppies have their eyes open by 10 days old.

[YorkieShadow]

I got both of my Yorkies at an early age. first one 5 weeks only because it was hurt and momma dog was pushing it away, I was told.so I took her in.and had her checked. #2 -8 weeks and #3- 6 weeks. At those ages all of them had their eyes open all of them could eat on their own, all of them did fine. and turned out to be very smart loving babies. Would I let my babies go at that age? NO NOt because I dont think they can make it on their own, Witch some smaller ones may not be able to at that age. But because I think they should stay with their mommas as long as they can.
BUt I really dont see the point in coming back to this thread and posting over and over what you think. Why not post your opinions and be done with it.

[DazzlinYT]

I have to say I find it sickening for someone to cut and paste information on Liver Shunt, when they obviously have no grasp on simple animal husbandry, much less the complexities of inherited diseases. The excuse people use "you can't prove it's hereditary" is nothing but that.. an excuse! Until you can prove it is NOT...you have no business breeding anything that isn't tested, and EVERY OFFSPRING tested. How do we erradicate this problem in the breed? As breeders, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE...if we do our parts to eliminate LS from our breeding programs, and responsibly alter any offsrping which test high, thus eliminating them from our program, then WE ARE DOING OUR PART. The same goes for Luxating Patellas, Legg Perthes, Collapsing Trachea, PDA and other heart defects...blue born pups, brown born pups, ETC ETC ETC. If you can't manage to be part of the solution, please DON'T be part of the PROBLEM. Excuses are like buttholes, everyone has one, and most of them stink! They are only a way for people like you to justify in your own mind that you are doing nothing wrong.

[yorkykisses]

Originally Posted by Chrissy0277

Can someone tell me this secret of determining show quailty at just a few weeks old lol? This way when my pup is hopfully born. Bitch was just bred (no not mine, im not a breeder) I can go and look at these few week old pups and say I want that one, that one is going to be a champion.
Oh well I can wish cant I?

I honestly do not think ANYONE would be able to tell if a puppy is of show quality at 2 weeks old! So many things on the puppies have not even developed at that young of an age. Many people say things that are not necessarily true, they do it to sell puppies!

[DazzlinYT]

But didn't you read? Blue is ALREADY BLUE AND GOLD at ten days old...that CERTAINLY makes him show quality, don't you think??

Originally Posted by yorkykisses

I honestly do not think ANYONE would be able to tell if a puppy is of show quality at 2 weeks old! So many things on the puppies have not even developed at that young of an age. Many people say things that are not necessarily true, they do it to sell puppies!

[yorkykisses]

Originally Posted by DazzlinYT

I have to say I find it sickening for someone to cut and paste information on Liver Shunt, when they obviously have no grasp on simple animal husbandry, much less the complexities of inherited diseases. The excuse people use "you can't prove it's hereditary" is nothing but that.. an excuse! Until you can prove it is NOT...you have no business breeding anything that isn't tested, and EVERY OFFSPRING tested. How do we erradicate this problem in the breed? As breeders, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE...if we do our parts to eliminate LS from our breeding programs, and responsibly alter any offsrping which test high, thus eliminating them from our program, then WE ARE DOING OUR PART. The same goes for Luxating Patellas, Legg Perthes, Collapsing Trachea, PDA and other heart defects...blue born pups, brown born pups, ETC ETC ETC. If you can't manage to be part of the solution, please DON'T be part of the PROBLEM. Excuses are like buttholes, everyone has one, and most of them stink! They are only a way for people like you to justify in your own mind that you are doing nothing wrong.

Amen! I could not have stated that any better!