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| YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TN
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| Robbie you are so nice! LOL ![]() Quote:
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| I failed to read the 5-6 weeks self suffecient part. No no no. Keep your pups until ATEAST 10 -12 weeks. 12 weeks being better. Good luck with your little ones. And please don't hesitate to email breeders and ask questions. Best wishes, Quote:
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| Actually "the mick" throws thousands of sperm into her.. it is up to the mother to determine how many eggs that are present to be fertalized, then she will absorb any her body can't handle. Her weight drop would indicate to me that the litter she just had was too hard on her. All of my girls GAIN weight while nursing...then again it could be what you are feeding her..or not feeding her. Anywhoo...to clear up your misconceptions.. father determines sex, mother determines how many. You can get SIX puppies from just one breeding if your female is big and healthy enough to carry them, and has that many eggs present. Quote:
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| Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: mississippi
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| Ok that was a bit much .... even I cannot be that mean to someone who is just but learning a valuable lesson here .... I must be getting old co's I can remember the day when I too was attached in such a way .. BUT then again I'm different .... in the fact that I dont back down and I don't take attacks like these personal .... Had I taken this personal like others wanted me to and not compete with them, then I to would ahev scurried off in a corner and never talked to another breeder again for the rest of my life . but LIke I said Im a bit different . I don't scare easily . But then again I gotta hand it to ya that was pretty good bashing there way to go !!!! LMAO PAt
__________________ [B][COLOR="Red"]some are here because they hope to make a differnce,Others like to roll around in the feces. You'll be able to "sniff them out " in no time . |
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| LOL maybe you're right, maybe I'm a b@#$* and shouldn't have said what I did, but I spent WAAAY too long in rescue to be able to sit on my hands when I really want to scream WHAT ARE YOU THINKING???!!!??? The time to consult a breeder, to learn EVERYTHING you can is BEFORE YOU BREED..not after, then the damage is already done. ![]() Quote:
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| Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: mississippi
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and some still dont have it and never will but the fight is still very much on !
__________________ [B][COLOR="Red"]some are here because they hope to make a differnce,Others like to roll around in the feces. You'll be able to "sniff them out " in no time . | |
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| Mom to 6 Beautiful Furkids Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio
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Personally, a breeder who lets the puppies go at 5 to 6 weeks old, is an unreputable breeder in my book and I would never buy from them. I really can't think of any reason why someone would want to give up such sweet little balls of joy. I would want to hold on to them and it makes me wonder why someone would want to give them away this young.
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__________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley | |
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| Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon
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| chipperdancing - state laws - legal age of sale or placement...since you mention california you would be in violation if you place these pups before the age of 8 weeks. Please read below, education yourself, the laws are to PROTECT THE PUPPY!!! PLEASE reconsider placement before 12 weeks... AND DO NOT start shots before the age of 8 weeks!!! If you cant be bothered raising the pups to the proper age of 12 weeks perhaps you should consider fostering them to someone who cares for the well being of these little ones! Table of State Puppy Age Sale Laws Rebecca F. Wisch Animal Legal & Historical Center Publish Date: 2006 Place of Publication: Michigan State University College of Law Printable Version Table of State Puppy Age Sale Laws State Citation To Whom Law Applies Illegal Age of Puppy for Sale What Actions Penalty Exemptions? Arizona AZ ST § 44-1799.04 “Pet Dealer” - a person who owns a pet store Less than 8 weeks old Offer for sale Class 1 misdemeanor No California West's Ann. Cal. Penal Code § 597z and Cal. Health & Safety Code § 122045 - 122315 Any person to sell unless approved by CA licensed vet. Section 12155 under the Health & Safety Code is limited to "pet dealer." Under 8 weeks old Sell – defined as when seller “physically transfers the dog or dogs to the purchaser.” An infraction or misdemeanor No Colorado CO ST § 35-80-108; also by admin. regulation 8 CCR 1201-11 Any person or entity (Admin. reg. applies to “dog breeder facility”) Under 8 weeks old Sell, transfer, or adopt Unlawful and violation of the chapter No Conn. CT ST § 22-354 Any person, firm or corporation Less than 8 weeks old; if imported or exported for sale must be with dam if under 8 weeks Import or export for the purposes of sale or offering for sale Sell within the state 30 days jail or $100 or both No Florida FL ST § 828.29 Any person Less than 8 weeks old Transport into the state for sale or offer for sale within the state Misdemeanor of the first degree as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083 No Illinois IL ST CH 225 § 605/2.2 No dog dealer, kennel operator, or cattery operator for sale Under 8 weeks old Separate from its mother Not specified No Indiana IN ST § 15-2.1-21-11.1 Any person Under the age of 8 weeks Import to, or export from, Indiana for the purpose of sale Not specified Research facilities licensed under the federal Laboratory Animals Welfare Act, 7 U.S.C. 2131 et seq., are exempted from this prohibition. Kansas Admin. Regulation K.A.R. 9-25-12 A retail breeder licensee Unless the puppy is 8 weeks old AND weaned. "Weaned" means that an animal has become accustomed to taking solid food and has done so, without nursing, for a period of at least five days. Sell or exchange Not specified No Maine Admin. Regulation 01-001 CMR Ch. 701, § I Any person Until completion of 7th week of life Sell, adopt, or give away “Unlawful” – not specified No Maryland MD CRIM LAW § 10-613 A person Less than 8 weeks old Sell or distribute in the State or bring into the State for the purpose of sale or distribution Misdemeanor with a max. fine of $500 For purposes of humane disposal, a court may seize an animal brought into this State in violation of this section. Does not apply to USDA licensed biomedical facility or if an animal that is accompanied by a signed statement from a licensed veterinarian stating that the animal's dam is incapacitated for humane or medical reasons and cannot care for the animal. A person may give an unaccompanied dog or cat to: (i) an animal shelter or pound that is operated or supported by a government; or (ii) a humane society. Mass. Mass. Gen. Laws ch. 140 § 138A and 141B; also by Admin. Regulation 330 CMR 12.05 Pet shop, commercial establishment, firm or corp. under statute; Licensee under regulation Under 8 weeks old including acquire, offer for sale, or display by regulation. Cannot import under 8 weeks by statute. Import by statue. Acquire, display, offer for sale, sell or give away by regs. Penalty by stat. is $50-100 and/or license revocation. Not specified by reg. Yes; licensed pet shops and licened institutions. Michigan MI ST 287.335a A person who operates a pet shop Less than 8 weeks old; also Import or cause to be imported into this state, or offer for sale or resale, a dog or cat unless the dog or cat has deciduous (baby) teeth visibly present. Import or cause to be imported into this state, or offer for sale or resale Not specified No Missouri Admin. Regulation 2 Mo. Code of State Regulations 30-9.020 Any person Under 8 weeks old AND has been weaned Delivered by any person to any carrier or intermediate handler for transport, in commerce, or shall be transported in commerce Not specified Except a registered research facility Nebraska NE ST § 28-1018 *but note that a new bill (LB 584)proposes changing from 6 weeks to 8 weeks. A person, other than an animal control facility or animal shelter Under 6 weeks of age Sell Class V misdemeanor Excludes: Animal Control Facility defined as a facility operated by the state or any political subdivision of the state for the purpose of impounding or harboring seized, stray, homeless, abandoned, or unwanted animals. Animal Shelter defined as a facility used to house or contain dogs or cats and owned, operated, or maintained by an incorporated humane society, animal welfare society, society for the prevention of cruelty to animals, or other nonprofit organization devoted to the welfare, protection, and humane treatment of such animals. Nevada NV ST § 574.500 A retailer, dealer or operator Shall not separate a dog or cat from its mother until it is accustomed to taking food or nourishment other than by nursing. Separate puppy or kitten from its mother prior to weaning Not specified No New York McKinney's Agriculture and Markets Law § 402 Pet dealer Under 8 weeks old Knowingly sell Not specified No Ohio OH ST § 955.50 No person for sale Under the age of 8 weeks Sell, offer to sell, or expose for sale, for the purpose of resale or receive for delivery within this state, or ship from any point within this state to any point outside this state, for sale to the general public at retail. Penalty per 955.99(C): minor misdemeanor on first offense and a misdemeanor of fourth degree on subsequent offenses. This section does not apply to the transportation of dogs in interstate commerce by common carrier, provided that neither the point of shipment nor the point of receiving is within this state. Penn. PA ST 3 P.S. § 459-603Also, PA St 3 P.S. 459-214 for importation of dogs into state. Anyone Under 7 weeks old Barter, trade, raffle, sell, auction or in any way transfer ownership “Unlawful” – not specified Unless the dog has been orphaned and goes to/from a nonprofit kennel with vet approval. Virginia VA ST § 3.1-796.70 Any person Under 7 weeks old Sell, raffle, or offer for sale as pets or novelties, or offer or give as a prize, premium, or advertising device Class 3 misdemeanor Dealers may offer immature fowl, unweaned mammalian companion animals, dogs or cats under the age of seven weeks for sale as pets or novelties with the requirement that prospective owners take possession of the animals only after fowl have reached two months of age, mammalian companion animals have been weaned, and dogs and cats are at least seven weeks of age. Nothing in this section shall prohibit the sale of an unweaned animal (i) as food for other animals or (ii) with the lactating dam or queen or a lactating surrogate dam or queen that has accepted the animal.
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| also you may want to learn about the proper developement of a pup as it matures and the reasons why it should stay with its mom/siblings until 12 weeks... The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, especially for dogs. The fact is, well-socialized dogs are more likely to have well-socialized puppies. Pups often mirror their mothers' calm or fearful attitude toward people; this is a normal part of their socialization. But you can play a vital role, too, by petting, talking, and playing with puppy to help him develop good "people skills." Puppies are usually weaned at six to seven weeks, but are still learning important skills as their mother gradually leaves them for longer periods of time. Ideally, puppies should stay with their littermates (or other "role-model" dogs) for at least 12 weeks. Puppies separated from their littermates too early often fail to develop appropriate "social skills," such as learning how to send and receive signals, what an "inhibited bite" (acceptable mouthing pressure) means, how far to go in play-wrestling, and so forth. Play is important for puppies because it increases their physical coordination, social skills, and learning limits. By interacting with their mother and littermates, puppies explore the ranking process ("who's in charge") and also learn "how to be a dog." Skills not acquired during the first eight weeks may be lost forever. While these stages are important and fairly consistent, a dog's mind remains receptive to new experiences and lessons well beyond puppyhood. Most dogs are still puppies, in mind and body, through the first two years of life. Here are general guidelines for puppies' stages of development Birth to 2 weeks: Neonatal Period Puppy is most influenced by his mother. Senses of touch and taste are present at birth. 2 to 4 weeks: Transitional Period Puppy is most influenced by his mother and littermates. Eyes open, teeth begin to come in, and senses of hearing and smell develop. Puppy begins to stand, walk a little, wag tail, and bark. By the fourth or fifth week, eyesight is well-developed. 3 to 12 weeks: Socialization Period During this period, puppy needs opportunities to meet other dogs and people. 3 to 5 weeks: puppy becomes aware of his surroundings, companions (both canine and human), and relationships, including play. 4 to 6 weeks: puppy is most influenced by littermates and is learning about being a dog. 4 to 12 weeks: puppy remains influenced by littermates and is also influenced by people. Puppy learns to play, develops social skills, learns the inhibited bite, explores social structure/ranking, and improves physical coordination. 5 to 7 weeks: puppy develops curiosity and explores new experiences. Puppy needs positive "people" experiences during this time. 7 to 9 weeks: puppy is refining his physical skills and coordination, and can begin to be housetrained. Puppy has full use of senses. 8 to 10 weeks: puppy experiences real fear involving normal objects and experiences; puppy needs positive training during this time. 9 to 12 weeks: puppy is refining reactions, developing social skills with littermates (appropriate interactions), and exploring the environment and objects. Puppy begins to focus on people; this is a good time to begin training. 3 to 6 Months: Ranking Period Puppy is most influenced by "playmates," which may now include those of other species. Puppy begins to see and use ranking (dominance and submission) within the household (the puppy's "pack"), including humans. Puppy begins teething (and associated chewing). 4 months: puppy experiences another fear stage. 6 to 18 Months: Adolescence Puppy is most influenced by human and dog "pack" members. 7 to 9 months: puppy goes through a second chewing phase, part of exploring territory. Puppy increases exploration of dominance, including challenging humans. If not spayed or neutered, puppy experiences beginnings of sexual behavior. Copyright © 2004 The Humane Society of the United States.
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Ok I couldnt resist this statement....yet it has left me speechless!!
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