Looking for a Yorkie Breeder in NJ/PA

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by Reese1

I totally understand what you are saying and by no means am I attacking you. I understand you are not defending her.
I'm just stating my opinions as I see them since someone else recommended her.
If she isn't brokering and doesn't breed mixes herself, she really shouldn't have her site tied in with her daughters who is breeding all kinds of mixes. It doesn't help her reputation any, but if she's ok with mixes herself, it probably doesn't matter.
Too many red flags for my taste, JMO.

Reese. I understand and I did not think you were attacking. I know your posts and how your feel and I feel the same. In no way would I support brokering. Susan, knows this, but we remained friendly over the years and has been trying to slowly develop her own breeding program. Some things we still disagree on, but I was extremely pleased to see her taking a step forward by stopping the brokering and establishing this program. I don't know much about it, other then what I'm told and if it's all that has been explained to me then I think it will be a very nice program for the mom dogs who would other wise be in a kennel situation or rehomed at retirement. This is the extent of where I'll defend anything. I still feel that some of the moms are too small to breed and that they are bred more then they should be, but this is not only with her, it's with so many even those that people consider reputable.

Elaine

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Reese. I understand and I did not think you were attacking. I know your posts and how your feel and I feel the same. In no way would I support brokering. Susan, knows this, but we remained friendly over the years and has been trying to slowly develop her own breeding program. Some things we still disagree on, but I was extremely pleased to see her taking a step forward by stopping the brokering and establishing this program. I don't know much about it, other then what I'm told and if it's all that has been explained to me then I think it will be a very nice program for the mom dogs who would other wise be in a kennel situation or rehomed at retirement. This is the extent of where I'll defend anything. I still feel that some of the moms are too small to breed and that they are bred more then they should be, but this is not only with her, it's with so many even those that people consider reputable.

Elaine

So does she not sell the dogs to these families? Does she place them & in return for not paying for them, they agree to let her breed and then take the puppies? I'm just curious how that works or do these owners buy them and give her some of the puppies and keep some?
I mean the poster on this thread bought her female from someone who bought the dog from her. I guess that could have been when she was brokering
I guess I'm just wondering who has ownership of all these puppies, it seems like it could easily lead to not having control over your lines or whatever.
I understand & can respect she has become a friend of yours.
I just have to say for me, if I were a potential buyer or someone that would ask, I just would never consider her.
If she's stopped brokering, good for her, but she's done it, she's ok with mixes and shares her website with her daughter and there are lots of mixes on there, unfortunately.
Then with breeding small females & too many times.
For me personally, I just could never buy from a breeder like that, but I appreciate the explanation!

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by Reese1

So does she not sell the dogs to these families? Does she place them & in return for not paying for them, they agree to let her breed and then take the puppies? I'm just curious how that works or do these owners buy them and give her some of the puppies and keep some?
I mean the poster on this thread bought her female from someone who bought the dog from her. I guess that could have been when she was brokering
I guess I'm just wondering who has ownership of all these puppies, it seems like it could easily lead to not having control over your lines or whatever.
I understand & can respect she has become a friend of yours.
I just have to say for me, if I were a potential buyer or someone that would ask, I just would never consider her.
If she's stopped brokering, good for her, but she's done it, she's ok with mixes and shares her website with her daughter and there are lots of mixes on there, unfortunately.
Then with breeding small females & too many times.
For me personally, I just could never buy from a breeder like that, but I appreciate the explanation!

Hey Reese. From what I understand, She gives the pup to the family, but it's someone she is familiar with, not just a stranger. I was offered a pup at one time but it wasn't the type of thing I was interested in. Anyway, the pup is theres but there is a contract that states they agree to breed that pup when it is old enough, and that after three breedings, the dog is then spayed and the contractual end of the contract is met and the dog is then theirs free and clear to keep forever. I would never do it. I just thought it was a neat way of breeding because the dog would never be in a kennel situation and or rehomed. Believe me I agree with you. I do not reccomend anyone to anyone and that goes for Susan or another breeder. I just really responded to clear up that she does not broker anymore from my understanding. Her business is her own and does not reflect how I feel. I just on a personal level like her, but we stay off of the controversial subjects and focus on interests we do have, such as rescue. She does do a lot of donating. If you look at her site she has buyers write out a $25 check payable right to a rescue organization. She also donates food, blankets etc (Collects stuff) and drops it to her shelter locally. And, she's had a few rescues herself that she's place and a few she has kept. Anyway, that is her breeding program and I don't blame the way you feel. Just wanted explain it since you asked. Elaine

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Hey Reese. From what I understand, She gives the pup to the family, but it's someone she is familiar with, not just a stranger. I was offered a pup at one time but it wasn't the type of thing I was interested in. Anyway, the pup is theres but there is a contract that states they agree to breed that pup when it is old enough, and that after three breedings, the dog is then spayed and the contractual end of the contract is met and the dog is then theirs free and clear to keep forever. I would never do it. I just thought it was a neat way of breeding because the dog would never be in a kennel situation and or rehomed. Believe me I agree with you. I do not reccomend anyone to anyone and that goes for Susan or another breeder. I just really responded to clear up that she does not broker anymore from my understanding. Her business is her own and does not reflect how I feel. I just on a personal level like her, but we stay off of the controversial subjects and focus on interests we do have, such as rescue. She does do a lot of donating. If you look at her site she has buyers write out a $25 check payable right to a rescue organization. She also donates food, blankets etc (Collects stuff) and drops it to her shelter locally. And, she's had a few rescues herself that she's place and a few she has kept. Anyway, that is her breeding program and I don't blame the way you feel. Just wanted explain it since you asked. Elaine

Thanks, I appreciate the explanation!

[Nikis2]

Nikisyorkies2.com

[sleeves211]

I bought my biewer puppy from julia.dank.com. She is a small family breeder in Skillman, NJ. You can google: my beautiful tribe in Skillman, NJ. Her and her husband took very good care of their dogs. I'm happy with my little guy who I purchased from her a 4 month olds. She held him for me until I returned from vacation. I knew I needed to be home with a new puppy.

[Beamers Mom]

Huh? Omamma -aren't you Rita George????

From your website:
Rita George
O'Mamma
484 547 6302
omamma dot com
omamma at hotmail dot com

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

Huh? Omamma -aren't you Rita George????

From your website:
Rita George
O'Mamma
484 547 6302
omamma dot com
omamma at hotmail dot com

Oh the tangled webs...

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Oh the tangled webs...

And she friended herself on Facebook

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Oh the tangled webs...

What did I miss

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

What did I miss

A case of dissociative personality disorder

[pawever Yorkie]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

A case of dissociative personality disorder

reminded me of movie "catfish"