Looking for a Yorkie Breeder in NJ/PA

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I do agree with you and believe that anyone who needs to develop a website to sell their dogs is money hungry. I just personally believe that shipping is cruel for a new pup , its just my opinion. I perfer to see the parents and environment in which the pup is raised. Would i buy from her personally? No she does not have the parents on site. I just know she sold some of the pups that my breeder had and believe that she gets them locally, but i could be wrong. I would have perfered to purchase from YTCA and i know someone locally. But getting full registration is imposible around here and i dont believe in shipping

Well, I don't know if I agree that anyone who has a website or ships puppies is terrible. It sure makes it easy to rule out a lot of breeders though without needing to do further research. Plenty of red flags can be picked up from websites. On the other hand there are breeders who do not have sites that use YT as a forum to sell their puppies that people should stay away from as well! So you can't be too careful!
I just think we should be careful recommending breeders to someone looking for a puppy. A broker, who is selling all kinds of mixes is the last person I would ever suggest. I would hate to suggest someone that could be a puppy mill, BYB, etc..
I would think getting full registration from a reputable breeder would be hard, it should be hard. I would be very suspect of any breeder that sells dogs on full registration to just anyone.
Are your dogs fully tested, evaluated, registered, etc..? I've seen that you are expecting two litters and in reading some of your past posts, it doesn't seem like two of them came from very reputable breeders, which begs the question about using them for breeding!

[Nikis2]

I am expecting 2 litters of puppies this week. I live in Maryland and you can look at my web site Nikisyorkies2.com or follow me on Facebook Nikis Yorkies. I have a lot of customers on YT that are from the New York/ New Jersey area. I wish you and your family my deepest condolences.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by NJFamily

Hi,

We are a family with 2 daughters, living in Central NJ. Their boxer passed away this past spring, and after the summer, we are planning on getting a yorkie.

My wife grew up with a one, and had many fond memories. Does anyone have a referral of a reputable breeder in NJ or Eastern PA?

Buying a Yorkie? READ THIS FIRST! [How To Buy a Yorkie] May I suggest this to be a good starter read on buying a Yorkie.

Going to the YTCA website is also good as some have suggested here.

There is an old saying; you buy your breeder first and then your pup.

There is another old saying: the younger the children the larger the dog. I don't know the ages of your children; but yorkies are very small dogs, and can be easily hurt by young children. Children should be of an age, where they can understand the fragility of a young pup or dog. And children should have supervised interactions with a young pup that might come to you at 2 lbs or so.

What is important to me is the health of a pup I purchase. As you may know or if not you should become aware of the health risks and concerns of Yorkies. Liver shunt, Luxating Patella, Cardio myopathies, allergies, skin sensitivies, PRA, are some of the concerns.

You want to know that the breeders of any dog you consider, do do health tests on the mating dam and sire. Well this is no guarantee of the future health of your pup, it is what you should expect of a reputable breeder. The breeder you select should be aware of what health concerns have cropped up in her line, (and we are talking not just about the breeding dam and sire, but their parents, their siblings, etc.)

You want a breeder who is a) very knowledgeable about the breed, b) commited to the support of her puppy buyers for life c) offers a worthwhile health guarantee d) breeds to improve the breed e) knows her lines inside and out.

For your information the breeder should be willing to share the full registered name of the dam and sire, and if health tests have been done, to supply that information; then you can check for yourself on the following sites:

OFA - for hips, knees, and elbows.

CERF - for PRA

Also you can go to CHIC although there at this point in time only 38 Yorkshire Terriers are registered that their breeders have elected to get this health number from.

However CHIC is a good site, because it will give you for the YOrkshire Terrier what is their recommended testing protocols.

I wish you all the best in your search.

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

When i bought my pup she use to broker the pups in south jersey from the breeder i purchased from who bred at home. I would never purchase from someone that ships their pups they are just money hugry cruel people. i suggested her just because i knew who is purchased from...that all

Just to clear it up. It's my understanding that Susan Morgan (TopNotchPups) has her own breeding program now. She does get a few Yorkies from her friend, but it's my understanding that she is not brokering, but rather using her own breeding program now. And, I believe she is strictly breeding Yorkies. My Tia is from Susan, but we got her as a rescue from someone who bought her from Susan, then got rid of her. I have to say in Susan's favore that she was very very helpful with info on Tia and she didn't have to be. My Brooklyn was bred by a woman out of Georgia (Susan's friend) and I picked Brooklyn up at Susan's home. No money was made by Susan on that sale by Susan. Since, I was at her place/home I can only say nice things about her as I saw first hand how the pups were kept. The parents themselves are in private homes with families. It's a unique breeding program she has. She places the pups with families and the when they reach breeding age she breeds them to one of her males. The pups are then sold. The female is bred three times then spayed and stays with the family as their own. I'm not a big fan of breeding. I'll always advocate rescue first, Brooklyn was our first we bought, my other five are rescues, however, I did think it was a cool unique way of breeding. The mom is always with the family so even after she retires (After three breedings) she is not rehomed. She's been with her family from birth and stays with them. Again, I do not agree with brokering etc, but did have to at least come on and say that I have been friendly with Susan for about four years now, and she's come a long way. She's also taken quite a few rescues in herself and rehomed them. I may take flack for this post, but I'm just trying to clear up what is and what was. Elaine

Elaine

[WV~Yorkies]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I do agree with you and believe that anyone who needs to develop a website to sell their dogs is money hungry. I just personally believe that shipping is cruel for a new pup , its just my opinion. I perfer to see the parents and environment in which the pup is raised. Would i buy from her personally? No she does not have the parents on site. I just know she sold some of the pups that my breeder had and believe that she gets them locally, but i could be wrong. I would have perfered to purchase from YTCA and i know someone locally. But getting full registration is imposible around here and i dont believe in shipping

Your looking at the wrongs sites!

I do NOT have my website because I am money hungry. If you look at my prices you would see that also. My website was first started in memory of my father that passed away from panceratic cancer. He bought me my first yorkie girl. Working on my site when he first past was a way I delt with it. I had my website up and running for 2 years before I ever sold a pup. I paid every month to keep it going...so NO not everyone is money hungry.

If I was money hungry I would have already sold the boy I have now but have turned down several people just because it didn't feel right. Not anyone can buy a puppy from me. I am not going to make a profit anyway so I am going to make sure he goes to a great home if not he can stay.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I do agree with you and believe that anyone who needs to develop a website to sell their dogs is money hungry. I just personally believe that shipping is cruel for a new pup , its just my opinion. I perfer to see the parents and environment in which the pup is raised. Would i buy from her personally? No she does not have the parents on site. I just know she sold some of the pups that my breeder had and believe that she gets them locally, but i could be wrong. I would have perfered to purchase from YTCA and i know someone locally. But getting full registration is imposible around here and i dont believe in shipping

Why does anyone who is looking for a pet need full registration unless they are planning on breeding? I wish more breeders would put that limit on their pups. Maybe then there wouldn't be so many backyard breeders out there (I know, I know- wishful thinking).

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Why does anyone who is looking for a pet need full registration unless they are planning on breeding? I wish more breeders would put that limit on their pups. Maybe then there wouldn't be so many backyard breeders out there (I know, I know- wishful thinking).

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Just to clear it up. It's my understanding that Susan Morgan (TopNotchPups) has her own breeding program now. She does get a few Yorkies from her friend, but it's my understanding that she is not brokering, but rather using her own breeding program now. And, I believe she is strictly breeding Yorkies. My Tia is from Susan, but we got her as a rescue from someone who bought her from Susan, then got rid of her. I have to say in Susan's favore that she was very very helpful with info on Tia and she didn't have to be. My Brooklyn was bred by a woman out of Georgia (Susan's friend) and I picked Brooklyn up at Susan's home. No money was made by Susan on that sale by Susan. Since, I was at her place/home I can only say nice things about her as I saw first hand how the pups were kept. The parents themselves are in private homes with families. It's a unique breeding program she has. She places the pups with families and the when they reach breeding age she breeds them to one of her males. The pups are then sold. The female is bred three times then spayed and stays with the family as their own. I'm not a big fan of breeding. I'll always advocate rescue first, Brooklyn was our first we bought, my other five are rescues, however, I did think it was a cool unique way of breeding. The mom is always with the family so even after she retires (After three breedings) she is not rehomed. She's been with her family from birth and stays with them. Again, I do not agree with brokering etc, but did have to at least come on and say that I have been friendly with Susan for about four years now, and she's come a long way. She's also taken quite a few rescues in herself and rehomed them. I may take flack for this post, but I'm just trying to clear up what is and what was. Elaine

Elaine

Is her site color silks & also comes up as mixed pups? If so, she is breeding every kind of mix under the sun

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by Reese1

Is her site color silks & also comes up as mixed pups? If so, she is breeding every kind of mix under the sun

Not sure what color silks is? I will agree with you on the mixed up pups. Susan is just breeding Yorkies, although she is not against mixed breeding. This is how she feels, not me.

Her daughter breeds the mixes. She breeds a top Yorkie with a top Maltese. She doesn't just throw them together. However, I'm not saying I agree with it. Susan and I have argued for many years about a lot of things. She has her beliefs and I have mine. The only thing I was posting about was to clear up that she isn't brokering any longer. She has developed what I feel is a pretty cool breeding program.

I met Susan when I got Tia and she was kind enough to send me baby pics of her, and all her info that the person that orginally bought her did not supply. We did not start out as friends. I did not agree with the brokering or her business, and she knew my feelings yet she always remained friendly and polite. I think over the years we were able to put our differences aside and learn from one another and even become pretty good friends. We still have our disagreements but all in all I cannot say anything bad about her.

Her dogs are well kept, the pups are well cared for. I was lucky enough to be at her home at the time one of her moms was delivering. It was an amazing experience to see. Her husband even helps with the delivery. She buys food etc in bulk from the emites (I think I'm writing it correctly) and while I was there I met a little rescue she took from a mill when she went into PA for food. She has told me that she tries to educate them and teach them how to be more humane. She was able to convince them and show them how to build a better kennnel. May not mean a whole lot but it showed me a side that I didn't know before.

Elaine

[felicity1008]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Not sure what color silks is? I will agree with you on the mixed up pups. Susan is just breeding Yorkies, although she is not against mixed breeding. This is how she feels, not me.

Her daughter breeds the mixes. She breeds a top Yorkie with a top Maltese. She doesn't just throw them together. However, I'm not saying I agree with it. Susan and I have argued for many years about a lot of things. She has her beliefs and I have mine. The only thing I was posting about was to clear up that she isn't brokering any longer. She has developed what I feel is a pretty cool breeding program.

I met Susan when I got Tia and she was kind enough to send me baby pics of her, and all her info that the person that orginally bought her did not supply. We did not start out as friends. I did not agree with the brokering or her business, and she knew my feelings yet she always remained friendly and polite. I think over the years we were able to put our differences aside and learn from one another and even become pretty good friends. We still have our disagreements but all in all I cannot say anything bad about her.

Her dogs are well kept, the pups are well cared for. I was lucky enough to be at her home at the time one of her moms was delivering. It was an amazing experience to see. Her husband even helps with the delivery. She buys food etc in bulk from the emites (I think I'm writing it correctly) and while I was there I met a little rescue she took from a mill when she went into PA for food. She has told me that she tries to educate them and teach them how to be more humane. She was able to convince them and show them how to build a better kennnel. May not mean a whole lot but it showed me a side that I didn't know before.

Elaine

I think susan is respected here in NJ as a caring breeder/broker. she is honest!!! and that is all that matters. there are so many INEXPERIENCED people on her that will say negative things without knowing people personally . they are just people who have nothing else better to do. ignore them.

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Not sure what color silks is? I will agree with you on the mixed up pups. Susan is just breeding Yorkies, although she is not against mixed breeding. This is how she feels, not me.

Her daughter breeds the mixes. She breeds a top Yorkie with a top Maltese. She doesn't just throw them together. However, I'm not saying I agree with it. Susan and I have argued for many years about a lot of things. She has her beliefs and I have mine. The only thing I was posting about was to clear up that she isn't brokering any longer. She has developed what I feel is a pretty cool breeding program.

I met Susan when I got Tia and she was kind enough to send me baby pics of her, and all her info that the person that orginally bought her did not supply. We did not start out as friends. I did not agree with the brokering or her business, and she knew my feelings yet she always remained friendly and polite. I think over the years we were able to put our differences aside and learn from one another and even become pretty good friends. We still have our disagreements but all in all I cannot say anything bad about her.

Her dogs are well kept, the pups are well cared for. I was lucky enough to be at her home at the time one of her moms was delivering. It was an amazing experience to see. Her husband even helps with the delivery. She buys food etc in bulk from the emites (I think I'm writing it correctly) and while I was there I met a little rescue she took from a mill when she went into PA for food. She has told me that she tries to educate them and teach them how to be more humane. She was able to convince them and show them how to build a better kennnel. May not mean a whole lot but it showed me a side that I didn't know before.


Elaine

It says Color silks when you go to her website.
Her daughter has all kinds of mixed breeds, not just Yorkies & Maltese.
Are you sure about the brokering part, because given the quote below she is considered a "respected breeder/broker" and IMO there is no such thing as a "respected" broker of puppies!
The poster below bought a puppy with full registration from someone who got their dog from her, so I guess that's not a problem as to who she's selling and giving full registration to.
I'm glad her dogs are well cared for as anyone's dogs should be.
I don't think people are horrible just because they have breeding practices that aren't what I would recommend.

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I think susan is respected here in NJ as a caring breeder/broker. she is honest!!! and that is all that matters. there are so many INEXPERIENCED people on her that will say negative things without knowing people personally . they are just people who have nothing else better to do. ignore them.

LOL, obviously directed at me and that's fine.
"INEXPERIENCED" as you put it has NOTHING to do with it, I'm NOT a breeder.
If I were a breeder I would have gained a TON of experience before going out and buying dogs from anyone I could get full rights from and I wouldn't have been lied and deceived on something so incredibly important.
As I stated above if she is still brokering, that's not respectable IMO or in most people's opinions and that isn't a breeder I would recommend to anyone. Most buyers do not know breeders personally, so they go by research, etc...

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by Reese1

It says Color silks when you go to her website.
Her daughter has all kinds of mixed breeds, not just Yorkies & Maltese.
Are you sure about the brokering part, because given the quote below she is considered a "respected breeder/broker" and IMO there is no such thing as a "respected" broker of puppies!
The poster below bought a puppy with full registration from someone who got their dog from her, so I guess that's not a problem as to who she's selling and giving full registration to.
I'm glad her dogs are well cared for as anyone's dogs should be.
I don't think people are horrible just because they have breeding practices that aren't what I would recommend.



LOL, obviously directed at me and that's fine.
"INEXPERIENCED" as you put it has NOTHING to do with it, I'm NOT a breeder.
If I were a breeder I would have gained a TON of experience before going out and buying dogs from anyone I could get full rights from and I wouldn't have been lied and deceived on something so incredibly important.
As I stated above if she is still brokering, that's not respectable IMO or in most people's opinions and that isn't a breeder I would recommend to anyone. Most buyers do not know breeders personally, so they go by research, etc...

I'm not going to argue about the brokering part. I only know what I've been old and what I've seen. Possibly, she has not updated her website IDK. I spoke to her even after the postings and she once agains said that she does not broker anymore. As far as full registration, she said to me just yesterday that she had pediatric neuters done on her males that were born, so that they could not be used for breeding. I've also seen quite a few of her pups listed as being sold on Limited. I know when I got Brooklyn she only had limited registration. Again I'm not defending anyone, just saying what I was told. And, again I do not defend nor condone the mix breeding. I've been on YT long enough for everyone to know how I feel about things. I would never defend anyone I found unreputable. Yes, Susan did broker, but unless the truth is not being told, right from her mouth she has stated that she does not broker anymore and has her own breeding program. I do know some where on her site awhile back it explained her breeding program. As I said I know she and her daughter breed separately, and she has since been working on updating her site. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but I'm only going by what came right direct from her. Elaine

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

I'm not going to argue about the brokering part. I only know what I've been old and what I've seen. Possibly, she has not updated her website IDK. I spoke to her even after the postings and she once agains said that she does not broker anymore. As far as full registration, she said to me just yesterday that she had pediatric neuters done on her males that were born, so that they could not be used for breeding. I've also seen quite a few of her pups listed as being sold on Limited. I know when I got Brooklyn she only had limited registration. Again I'm not defending anyone, just saying what I was told. And, again I do not defend nor condone the mix breeding. I've been on YT long enough for everyone to know how I feel about things. I would never defend anyone I found unreputable. Yes, Susan did broker, but unless the truth is not being told, right from her mouth she has stated that she does not broker anymore and has her own breeding program. I do know some where on her site awhile back it explained her breeding program. As I said I know she and her daughter breed separately, and she has since been working on updating her site. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but I'm only going by what came right direct from her. Elaine

I totally understand what you are saying and by no means am I attacking you. I understand you are not defending her.
I'm just stating my opinions as I see them since someone else recommended her.
If she isn't brokering and doesn't breed mixes herself, she really shouldn't have her site tied in with her daughters who is breeding all kinds of mixes. It doesn't help her reputation any, but if she's ok with mixes herself, it probably doesn't matter.
Too many red flags for my taste, JMO.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I think susan is respected here in NJ as a caring breeder/broker. she is honest!!! and that is all that matters. there are so many INEXPERIENCED people on her that will say negative things without knowing people personally . they are just people who have nothing else better to do. ignore them.

What you view as "having nothing else better to do", some of us look at as trying to help out others...so they aren't taken advantage of an lied to as you claim you were. Too bad there was no one around to guide you in the right direction and give you information to consider before making your decisions when you bought your dogs, eh?

If being passionate enough to step up and attempt to educate others and help them avoid heartache is a crime, then I am glad there are so many offenders here on YT! You don't have to 'know someone personally' when they have information posted up one side of their sites and down the other for all the world to see.

IMO, "caring" and "broker" should not even be used in the same sentence. There is a lot more that 'matters' than just being honest! If you are not responsible with breeding or placing dogs, that is not something that can or should be written off just because you're honest about it.

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I think susan is respected here in NJ as a caring breeder/broker. she is honest!!! and that is all that matters. there are so many INEXPERIENCED people on her that will say negative things without knowing people personally . they are just people who have nothing else better to do. ignore them.

It is my understanding that she does not broker anymore. She has her own breeding program and has gotten away from brokering. This is what she has said to me We keep in contact regularly. She and I do not always agree on things but we put that aside and have become friends over the years. I spoke to her about this thread and she told me that she DOES NOT broker anymore. She is working on establishing a good breeding line and strictly breeds Yorkies now. For years I did not send people to her because she did broker (This is my own personal feelings) and she knew this yet we remained friendly. I've become impressed with her unique breeding program in that rather then have a kennel, she has her dogs in family homes. It's a deal they make. She gives them a pup and when the pup becomes old enough to breed she will begin breeding. The dog stays strictly in the family home with the family. After three breedings the contract ends and the dog is spayed and remains with the family.