AKC Yorkie International, World Champion Line Pups

[whispersmom2]

OMG!!! I will not say "UNCLE" BUT, I will not post further on this thread, either. Does that mean anything to other members? probably not, but it does to me. This horse named MILLER-BROKER-PETSHOP has been dead so long decomp has set in. If the remains were found, a DNA would be needed to ID it as the horse that was beaten to death a long time ago...

[feminvstr]

poor horse

[hockeymom]

I vote Dead!
Dead is Dead, or at least it should be!

[LvMyYorki]

Originally Posted by whispersmom2

OMG!!! I will not say "UNCLE" BUT, I will not post further on this thread, either. Does that mean anything to other members? probably not, but it does to me. This horse named MILLER-BROKER-PETSHOP has been dead so long decomp has set in. If the remains were found, a DNA would be needed to ID it as the horse that was beaten to death a long time ago...

Rini...... You are killing me lady! All I can say is... Brilliant! Simply Brilliant!!!

And thank you Kimberly for your post... Cheers to the voice of experience and reason!

[wnalegria]

If you want to be technical- any person on this forum who posts- hey I just saw puppies in my local paper priced at $XXX.XX could be called a broker.
She is promoting a third parties animals that she may not know anything about the breeder or the puppes. It does not matter that she is getting a financial gain.

If a memeber from YTCA refers you to another member they are a broker.

I have a dear friend in Kentucky who raises Yorkies- If someone calls her and she does not have what that person is looking for- she will have them call me- I do the same for her. We share the same thoughts, Ideas and values
she is 70 years old and has been a Godsend for me. I can be honnest with her and she will listen to what I am saying- if I may not be thinking things through clearly she is there to be open, fair and give good advice. It may not be what I want to hear- but I get it fair and balanced. Do we give each other a commision no- we just care about each other. If she wants to use a male of mine it's hers to use. She does not show- if she has a show puppy that she really likes - she has gave them to me and said have fun kid.
So I guess that Clara and I are brokers.

All breeders have bought a dog that they thought would fit into their program and for some reason it did not work out as planned and you have resold this puppy/adult. Does this make you a broker?

Why are we so obsessed with putting a title on a person that could be quite harmful.

Wnalegria

[sylvan]

Can't even hear the echo of a last whinny....Cheers to Rini!

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by wnalegria

If you want to be technical- any person on this forum who posts- hey I just saw puppies in my local paper priced at $XXX.XX could be called a broker.
She is promoting a third parties animals that she may not know anything about the breeder or the puppes. It does not matter that she is getting a financial gain.

If a memeber from YTCA refers you to another member they are a broker.

I have a dear friend in Kentucky who raises Yorkies- If someone calls her and she does not have what that person is looking for- she will have them call me- I do the same for her. We share the same thoughts, Ideas and values
she is 70 years old and has been a Godsend for me. I can be honnest with her and she will listen to what I am saying- if I may not be thinking things through clearly she is there to be open, fair and give good advice. It may not be what I want to hear- but I get it fair and balanced. Do we give each other a commision no- we just care about each other. If she wants to use a male of mine it's hers to use. She does not show- if she has a show puppy that she really likes - she has gave them to me and said have fun kid.
So I guess that Clara and I are brokers.

All breeders have bought a dog that they thought would fit into their program and for some reason it did not work out as planned and you have resold this puppy/adult. Does this make you a broker?

Why are we so obsessed with putting a title on a person that could be quite harmful.

Wnalegria

Interesting...

[LvMyYorki]

Originally Posted by wnalegria

If you want to be technical- any person on this forum who posts- hey I just saw puppies in my local paper priced at $XXX.XX could be called a broker.
She is promoting a third parties animals that she may not know anything about the breeder or the puppes. It does not matter that she is getting a financial gain.

If a memeber from YTCA refers you to another member they are a broker.

I have a dear friend in Kentucky who raises Yorkies- If someone calls her and she does not have what that person is looking for- she will have them call me- I do the same for her. We share the same thoughts, Ideas and values
she is 70 years old and has been a Godsend for me. I can be honnest with her and she will listen to what I am saying- if I may not be thinking things through clearly she is there to be open, fair and give good advice. It may not be what I want to hear- but I get it fair and balanced. Do we give each other a commision no- we just care about each other. If she wants to use a male of mine it's hers to use. She does not show- if she has a show puppy that she really likes - she has gave them to me and said have fun kid.
So I guess that Clara and I are brokers.

All breeders have bought a dog that they thought would fit into their program and for some reason it did not work out as planned and you have resold this puppy/adult. Does this make you a broker?

Why are we so obsessed with putting a title on a person that could be quite harmful.

Wnalegria

I have to disagree... if a YTCA member refers me to another member, its a refererral. If someone posts about an ad in the paper, then I would just call that sharing info. When I say "broker" I am talking about someone that is selling pups that they bought from a breeder or puppy mill for a lowe price and then turns right around and puts a high price tag or a commission on that puppy's head... like I stated earlier... IMO a broker is someone that's sole concern is the almighty dollar! And I have a problem with that!

[Missy's Mommy]

Originally Posted by LvMyYorki

I have to disagree... if a YTCA member refers me to another member, its a refererral. If someone posts about an ad in the paper, then I would just call that sharing info. When I say "broker" I am talking about someone that is selling pups that they bought from a breeder or puppy mill for a lowe price and then turns right around and puts a high price tag or a commission on that puppy's head... like I stated earlier... IMO a broker is someone that's sole concern is the almighty dollar! And I have a problem with that!

I was just thinking the same thing!

I am sure many have an opinion of what a broker means to them, but the definition of a broker is:

bro·ker (brkr)
1. One that acts as an agent for others, as in negotiating contracts, purchases, or sales in return for a fee or commission.

IMO If no commision is made I believe that would be a referal

[StewiesMom]

I think that I read something along the lines of:

In order to sell your dogs on YT they must be in your possession and YOUR DOGS. You cant advertise a potential breeding asking for deposits or a litter from a currently pregnant dog.

Maybe that clears something up...

[feminvstr]

wnalegria

I am sorry if a breeder sends someone to another breeder that is a referal not a broker!

My gosh how things can get twisted around, the mind does tricks.!!

If I know of a quality pup available through another breeder I do not heistate if I have none available. Most good breeders live in a tight community, respect one another and wouldnt think twice of recommendation.

On My site I have "friends selling pups" page...does that label me a broker NOT! they dont have a webpage and will not advertise in the local papers so I put up their pup pics and THEIR direct contact information, I get nothing from it except a wonderful respectful breeder to breeder relationship! I would never put up a breeder pups that I did not know personally and that I didnt have a open honest relationship with. I just call that being a friend!

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by LvMyYorki

I have to disagree... if a YTCA member refers me to another member, its a refererral. If someone posts about an ad in the paper, then I would just call that sharing info. When I say "broker" I am talking about someone that is selling pups that they bought from a breeder or puppy mill for a lowe price and then turns right around and puts a high price tag or a commission on that puppy's head... like I stated earlier... IMO a broker is someone that's sole concern is the almighty dollar! And I have a problem with that!

Very well said!

[yorkiemomiee]

I find this discussion very interesting and don't believe it should be shut down just because older YT members have beaten the discussion dead along time ago. It's healthy for newbies to hear such a debate. The definition of a Broker in the dictionary is as follows
"1. an agent who buys or sells for others on commission. 2. A mediator who negotiates agreements or contracts."
I think wnalegria has a point BUT does it fit the definition of what Broker really means?
IMO wnalegria makes a good point bringing the fine line closer in the true meaning of what a broker is in this industry of puppy selling. Sadly it is an industry. I think it's essential to remember that there will always be acceptions to the rule and as easy as it is to peg hole an idea that is 99% true it IS possible for there to actually be someone who is recieving a small percent of the sale for say reffering a good friend to thier favorite friend breeder and it doesn't make them a bad person even though technically they would fit the catogory as a broker, especially if the did this more than one or two times every now and then for their friend.
Getting the word out to find good homes for good puppies from great breeders sometimes requires word of mouth especially for those that have a sweet little litter and are just starting out and to say that anyone that recieved a small percentage from telling a good friend about a good breeder thus making them a broker and "broker" meaning only someone out for a buck is actually a tiny bit bias.
I agree that the MAJORITY of brokers ARE money hungry careless losers that don't give a crap about what they are selling BUT there are acceptions to that ideal.