AKC Yorkie International, World Champion Line Pups

[kewtee]

Maybe it would be an idea for all who wants to sell pups here on YT to have to fill out some kind of form?

Like:

Name:
Adress:
E-mail:
Phone:

Dam:
Stud:

Organisation:
Prizes:

Number of pups:
Born:

Pictures:

etc etc - ou get the idea, since american is not my native language I can't write the right questions, but some of you can

That way there would be no confusion and one could immidiately check out their story and get in touch with them.

Maybe every breeder could have their own thread where the first post were general information about them and every time they had pups, they would make a new post in their own thread to advertize...

Sounds like an idea?

[txshopper73]

sounds good to me!

[jesscruz]

WOW! interesting post huh.who is this raymond guy? i have never heard of him until now. probably because i'm not into breeding at all. yorkierose i am very glad that you brought up the "joining just to sell pups" issue.i have seen it get worse and worse.pretty soon that is all your going to see here are people trying to "post" their pups because they know that this is a honest place full of yorkie lovers and they want a piece of it to better their sales. i feel that there should be a rule that you have to be here and be an active member for a certain amount of time before you can try to sell a puppy. i don't think it's fair that people can just come in here and post for the first time and it just be for trying to sell a pup. it's like were becoming a newspaper add or something it's actually quite sad to be honest. jmho

[wnalegria]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

Exactly!!

Take it one step further- They do not have to register the pups AKC- They can take the parents and register them with a different registry- this would then allow them to register the puppies. Some of the other registries just require pictures of the animal. They do not care if the AKC paperwork states limited.

They have won. If you do not want a puppy/adult bred the limited papers with AKC does nothing to stop the person who wants to breed no matter what. Your only course of action is to spay/neuter the yorkie or what ever breed yourself. This saves you a lot of headache and heartache down the road.


Wnalegria

[diva pup]

"Oy Vey! Now I know why show breeders put you through the wringer with questions before they will sell one their Yorkies! Anyone could just take the dog and say whatever and then do whatever with it and then it has that kennel's name on it and all the years of building a reputation can go down the drain!"
I couldn't agree with you more Tara.

My contract states that IF I bred my dog,accidentally or otherwise, my breeder gets ALL the pups and I can and will be fined a rather large fee and I believe I might lose my dog as well. I am pretty sure about the last part but I cannot find my contract this am.
IF I were a person with an agena about breeding I think it would be easier to be mentored and go down the correct path no matter how difficult, rather than risk losing my precious pet! That is as strict a contract as she can come with and I do not know if she has ever had to enforce it but I sure respect her reasons.Dawn

[wnalegria]

At one time a friend of mine who is a attorney looked at my contract from some years ago- and ones that I has signed for babies that I had purchased. He felt that I would have a difficult time enforcing the contract. He stated that interstate laws come into effect and that folks have different rights legally in contracts based on the state that they lived in. It was very complicated and over my head- bottom line was that if someone wanted to fight me over breeding it could be a very expensive and uphill battle. He was not sure if I would win.

If you think that someone wants to breed it is easier to take them under your wing and try and help them with education, being there for advice and to try and help them along the way.


I still think that if you do not want to take the chance of a certain puppy/adult or your lines being bred when placed as a pet- you the breeder should keep it long enough and alter it yourself.


As a forum-you have the right to be interested in the folks who are joining and may place puppies for sale/ or advertise their studs. But please be careful that you do not become vindictive to new members who are joing for the right reasons. There are members on the forum who have purchased yorkies from breeders that other members feel are bad. The term back yard breeder / puppymill is used and as I tried to explain before on a thread some of us use the terms to mean different things.

Which is worse a new member who joins and is a breeder who cares about their dogs and has puppies for sale and lets you know about them or the member of the forum who tells you about a newspaper ad that has puppies for sale? You know nothing about this newspaper ad and members of the forum who want a yorkie are gowing wow $400.00 I can get another yorkie. Do we hold the member of the forum responsible if the newspaper ad is a bad breeder?

If I was looking for a puppy/ and a stud which I am- I enquired to the forum- I thought that this was a group of individuals who cared about each other and would give me good advice. I do not know what lines you have- we all like to brag about our kids- and should be proud of them. As you know it is hard to find others who share the high values and standards that are shown by this group. I wanted to be able to share when I had when I had babies for sale and I wanted help when looking for lines to add to my kids. I thought that is was a work together and a win for both sides.

Maybe the memebers of the forum should ask the administration to remove the for sale and wanted topic and not allow any one to mention that they have puppies available for placement or studs for stud service in any of the other topics. This would put the fear to rest for some of the members.

In earlier posts it was mentioned that YTCA is not always friendly to pet owners. I would hate to see this forum become closed mined and not open to all who care and love the for the breed.

I forgot- just so that you all know- My writing is scattered online and my speach is on the phone. This is not because I am very poorly educated as someone indicated on my website. In 2000 I was diagnosed with cancer in my face. I have been through extensive radiation treatments to my head. The result being I have congnitive problems to parts of my brain. I have Parkinson's Disease as a secondary diagnosis. So when I am at a down time and the Parkinson's doseage is wearing down the brain does not click on all four cylinders. When writing or saying a sentence I might think that I have all the words in place but I have them backwords or missing.

Next to the person who e-mailed me that I am a puppymill who sells my dogs so that I can by drus. Yes, I do use a Duragesic patch a controlled substance like morphine. This is how I control the pain from the Cancer and the damage that the sugery and radiation has caused to the left side of my face and neck. My doctors prescribe this for me and I follow the directions and do not abuse the medication or any others that I am on. If you want my doctors names I will be glad to provide that for you- and no the dogs do not pay for my drugs.

Hope this helps tell a little bit more about who I am and what I am. The Yorkies have been the highlight of my life. They helped me get through the days when I just wanted to give up. I could not because they needed me and loved me for who and what I am.


wnalegria
I still have not figured out how to use the spell check on this forum to help me out.

[diva pup]

Next to the person who e-mailed me that I am a puppymill who sells my dogs so that I can by drus. Yes, I do use a Duragesic patch a controlled substance like morphine. This is how I control the pain from the Cancer and the damage that the sugery and radiation has caused to the left side of my face and neck. My doctors prescribe this for me and I follow the directions and do not abuse the medication or any others that I am on. If you want my doctors names I will be glad to provide that for you- and no the dogs do not pay for my drugs.

Hope this helps tell a little bit more about who I am and what I am. The Yorkies have been the highlight of my life. They helped me get through the days when I just wanted to give up. I could not because they needed me and loved me for who and what I am.


wnalegria
I still have not figured out how to use the spell check on this forum to help me out.


There are not enough words for me to say how I felt reading this. Saddened at best and disgusted at worst. Your posts have always been well thought out and informative. For the person that sent this email to you I sincerely hope that they quit worrying about other peoples spelling and work on that mean streak of theirs. Dawn

[YorkieRose]

I think it is good idea also to have a more detailed selling format.

AS to not allowing pups for sale...that is one reason the forum is number one. Advertizers were very up front in saying.."other breeders had told them this was great place to sell pups at good prices."

I would perfer not to be known as a selling site...but have a place for 500 post members to sell anything they want..products and pups if they choose.
I am probably too harsh in this area...but any quality Yorkie forum does not permit these sales...
Ones that do are
Yorkiebreeders.com
Buybelowcost
USBreeders..a USDA commerical breeder site...
Yorkies Direct, until many members here left because of owner being a high volume dealer/broker.

[BrookeB676]

wnalegria- I have never seen any of your posts but I would like to say that I sincerely apologize for the way that you were treated, and I have the same feelings as Dawn- it saddens and disgusts me. It is truly a shame that some dont possess a certain maturity level that doesnt allow for harsh assumptions that can truly scar and insult someones well-being. There is absolutely no excuse for what has been said to you, just unfortunate. Many speak without thinkign of how it will hurt someone else. My prayers are with you in that your health continues to improve. My step-mom had breast cancer, luckily she is in remission, but health is absolutely not something to joke around about, and there is no telling when it will strike again. Thank god for these yorkies, they really do life our spirits when we need them, and I know how grateful you are to have them in your life.

[Carters Mom]

wnalegria:

It makes me absolutely sick to think that someone was so judgmental as to accuse you of selling yorkies for drugs. Everyone is entitled to their private lives and shouldn't be made to feel that they have to reveal what is intimate to them.

I have admired your posts and responses on this forum and hope that you don't let one or two or perhaps a handful of people dissuade you from contributing here.

In your posts, it is clear to me that you have an abundance of knowledge to share with those who are willing to learn from it.

My thoughts and prayers are with you as you deal with your health problems.

Lisa

[red98vett]

wnalegria...I totally agree that someone was mean and coldhearted to email you saying that - I wish you the best of luck with your illness and I'm so glad your yorkies bring you so much joy. There are many people in this world who think nothing of intentionally hurting someone and using your illness was terribly wrong. If I were you - I would let that one go - just ignore it because whoever wrote that is not worth a conversation.

[hockeymom]

I am very sorry if you have felt uncomfortable or unwanted on this forum. We may seem to come across as intimidating at times, but we just want to make sure who we are dealing with on this forum. I have found most everyone on this site is great once you get to know them.

I do believe that there should be some kind of criteria that anyone selling yorkies on this forum should follow, but that is just my opinion.

Get to know us; let us get to know you. I know that I would personally want to buy from someone I knew or from someone that I was referred.

[feminvstr]

wnalegria and diva pup dont give these people that attack you a second thought theyre either jealous or self rightious nether of which deserve one bit of your emotions! They cruel words only show how small they are!

[diva pup]

"wnalegria and diva pup dont give these people that attack you a second thought theyre either jealous or self rightious nether of which deserve one bit of your emotions! They cruel words only show how small they are!"
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Thanks Kimberly but as yet I haven't been attacked, only wnalgria has. I was just quoting part of her post. Thank you for your concern tho
I am just sick that it was a member of this forum that said those things to her. And I admit I am a little surprised more people havent expressed the same feelings. Thanks again, dawn

[jesscruz]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I think it is good idea also to have a more detailed selling format.

AS to not allowing pups for sale...that is one reason the forum is number one. Advertizers were very up front in saying.."other breeders had told them this was great place to sell pups at good prices."

I would perfer not to be known as a selling site...but have a place for 500 post members to sell anything they want..products and pups if they choose.
I am probably too harsh in this area...but any quality Yorkie forum does not permit these sales...
Ones that do are
Yorkiebreeders.com
Buybelowcost
USBreeders..a USDA commerical breeder site...
Yorkies Direct, until many members here left because of owner being a high volume dealer/broker.

thank you!