What Makes A Show Breeder!

[shyorkies]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

Cher...I think it's just the term that is used...A WANNA BE. That term has been used in past years on many different situations...not just show breeders...and it's a term to describe unworthiness, a loser, A JOKE. This is just my opinion but I can understand how others can take offense to this.

Well I guess there are many different terms when it comes to this subject.. I have only shown my boys on a limited basis.. I also personally believe they both are gorgeous examples of the breed, but than again they are "my" boys.. I can count on two hands the number of shows I have attended as an exhibitor.. My husband keeps telling me to hire a handler and he would be a champion by now, but this is something I want to do.. I want to be the one that is showing him when is championed.. It is my hardwork that has been put into him.. I have female out of my own breeding that is a very nice girl and I am so very excited about her.. But I will not take her out until her sire is championed, so I might have to hire a handler.. But I would not even consider hiring a handler unless my dog was a very nice example of the breed.. I have personally seen handlers with dogs that are not the best examples of the breed win the class and shortly after champion the dog..

I can also say that when I walk into a ring I personally have never felt such nervousness in my entire life! Sometimes I feel like I am outside my body watching, sad but true!

[shyorkies]

Originally Posted by BlumoonYorkies

I have a show friend in that area. You will need to let me know when you make it to your first show. maybe she can help you out some. Topknots can be a bugger...
Looking forward to meetng up with you in the ring. Have you a show dog your going to be showing? Any pictures yet?
Good luck!

I can remember my first show with Tegan I must have put the topknot in over 60 times! Good thing Tegan has alot of hair on top of his head..
I still get that nervous.. I have been lucky to have some very nice show people help me!!!!!

[BlumoonYorkies]

Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970

Thanks. and yes those topknots, wow weee wow! I do not have THE dog I wish to begin with at this point. It's all in the works and I hope to have him or her later this year. 2007 will be my year that I become more seriously involved. This year I am going to be sinking in all the info I can and talking to veterans in the sport along with aquiring and preparing my future prospect. I have a boy of my own breeding that I would like to work with more as well. Thanks for the heads up and I look forward to meeting you someday as well.

Yes, you should also go to shows and watch this can help alot! And chat with some of the breeder's there that are showing. And maybe a seasoned show breeder can help you elvaluate what you might be running on for show. And puppy classes are most important also.
It took me two years to be able to do a really good topknot!
I use to be all thumbs!

[BlumoonYorkies]

Originally Posted by shyorkies

Well I guess there are many different terms when it comes to this subject.. I have only shown my boys on a limited basis.. I also personally believe they both are gorgeous examples of the breed, but than again they are "my" boys.. I can count on two hands the number of shows I have attended as an exhibitor.. My husband keeps telling me to hire a handler and he would be a champion by now, but this is something I want to do.. I want to be the one that is showing him when is championed.. It is my hardwork that has been put into him.. I have female out of my own breeding that is a very nice girl and I am so very excited about her.. But I will not take her out until her sire is championed, so I might have to hire a handler.. But I would not even consider hiring a handler unless my dog was a very nice example of the breed.. I have personally seen handlers with dogs that are not the best examples of the breed win the class and shortly after champion the dog..

I can also say that when I walk into a ring I personally have never felt such nervousness in my entire life! Sometimes I feel like I am outside my body watching, sad but true!

Try taking a xanax for those nerves girl. That is what a friend of mine does and has been showing for 5 years now and has a couple of Champions.

We all need help starting out. Getting a handler is not a bad idea if he is what you think should be shown. It might only get expensive depending on the degree of quality he is for showing.
This way you can put your all into his daughter now.

[BlumoonYorkies]

Originally Posted by whispersmom2

And, show breeders do not necessarily ever set their own foot in the ring. They use trainers and handlers but still are listed as breeder/owner or breeder or owner or whatever..

The true meaning, pride and knowing you have done something well is when you finish your OWN yorkie that you have bred.
We call this being Breeder/Owner/Handled!
When I see this I am more impressed with a yorkie than if a handler finishes it.
However as some experienced show breeder's age it gets harder to show ourselves and health reasons can play a part in ending up needing to use a handler. But then again you do learn who has shown thier own in the past and why they need a handler now. Whether getting up and down cannot be any longer done and or the quality is just not quite there for it to be owner finished. The show world is really not a big one and we all know each other in some way. Once begining to show you do acquire this knowledge as well.

[YorkieRini]

I see all too often people new to breeding and or showing instantly getting too big for their britches. I assume that's when the term 'wanna be' upsets someone.

If you are not afraid to ask for help from the 'Pros' they are more that willing to help. I am a cling on. Poor Cher. She has spent HOURS on the phone with me. Spilling her years and years of knowledge some I want to hear and some stuff I don't. As long as it's done in a professional honest manner, how can anyone get mad?
If some would just put their egos a side and call on these 'Pros' you'd be surprised how helpful they are. It's refreshing!!

Robbie, I am on my way up there along with ya girl!!

Hugs,
Irene

[goldenray]

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

I see all too often people new to breeding and or showing instantly getting too big for their britches. I assume that's when the term 'wanna be' upsets someone.

If you are not afraid to ask for help from the 'Pros' they are more that willing to help. I am a cling on. Poor Cher. She has spent HOURS on the phone with me. Spilling her years and years of knowledge some I want to hear and some stuff I don't. As long as it's done in a professional honest manner, how can anyone get mad?
If some would just put their egos a side and call on these 'Pros' you'd be surprised how helpful they are. It's refreshing!!

Robbie, I am on my way up there along with ya girl!!

Hugs,
Irene

We look forward to you both. As you know Irene, I have been very encouraging on your showing your kids. Wish you both all the best.

[YorkieRini]

Originally Posted by goldenray

We look forward to you both. As you know Irene, I have been very encouraging on your showing your kids. Wish you both all the best.

You have been so encouraging. I truly appreciate that.

[shelbysmom]

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Originally Posted by shelbysmom
Isn't a show breeder just someone who shows dogs? I think there are reputable experienced show breeders and hobby breeders that show...but anyone can show. It doesn't mean the dogs are healthy or the breeder is ethical, it just means they show dogs?

Originally Posted by BlumoonYorkies

Very good answer for someone who does not show.
Let me elaborate some. First a reputable show breeder loves thier dogs and does NOT sell to BYB or mills or anyone to just be used as a breeder. We feel one should get into showing as it helps to learn about the health in pedigree's, what the dogs look like in the pedigree's from other exhibitors, as well as learning the proper structure, movement, type and balance. VS pedigree's that say Sally Sue is the mother and Joe Jones is the father. There are also reputable show breeder's who breed for themselves, not for the glory or to sell puppies for show to make another Champion. And then there are disreputable show breeder's. Once becoming a show breeder you learn the differences and know quality!

True, I don't show dogs. I am not even a breeder.

But I did everything I could to learn about the breed and breeders before I bought my pup. I remember reading that buying from a show breeder will help insure that you are buying from someone who cares about the breed and the standard of the breed. Sounds good right?

I wish.

People show for all sorts of reasons. Finding someone that shows for the right reasons is tough. Finding an experienced reputable breeder who shows their dogs for the right reason AND has pet quality pups available is WAY tough

[shyorkies]

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

I see all too often people new to breeding and or showing instantly getting too big for their britches. I assume that's when the term 'wanna be' upsets someone.

If you are not afraid to ask for help from the 'Pros' they are more that willing to help. I am a cling on. Poor Cher. She has spent HOURS on the phone with me. Spilling her years and years of knowledge some I want to hear and some stuff I don't. As long as it's done in a professional honest manner, how can anyone get mad?
If some would just put their egos a side and call on these 'Pros' you'd be surprised how helpful they are. It's refreshing!!

Robbie, I am on my way up there along with ya girl!!

Hugs,
Irene

Irene and Robbie I am grabbing the bottom of your pants and coming along!!

[shyorkies]

This is my boy I am presently showing.. I would like to know what you all think of him? Thanks..

[dinkydawgs]

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

I see all too often people new to breeding and or showing instantly getting too big for their britches. I assume that's when the term 'wanna be' upsets someone.

If you are not afraid to ask for help from the 'Pros' they are more that willing to help. I am a cling on. Poor Cher. She has spent HOURS on the phone with me. Spilling her years and years of knowledge some I want to hear and some stuff I don't. As long as it's done in a professional honest manner, how can anyone get mad?
If some would just put their egos a side and call on these 'Pros' you'd be surprised how helpful they are. It's refreshing!!

Robbie, I am on my way up there along with ya girl!!

Hugs,
Irene

Great Post!

Shelbysmom~ You are so right!

Shyyorkies~ I love your boy....he is a beauty!

[DazzlinYT]

You know, this is a very interesting topic for me... My Mother (who got extremely lucky in another breed, and produced 4 homebred champions from her FIRST litter) which she called a "calculated risk" decided I was a "backyard breeder" the other day. Thank you mother. I asked her what her criteria for that statement was, and she said because I have not yet finished my own homebred champion. Well considering they are SEVEN WEEKS OLD..I asked her to give them time to at least get lead broken before we go start throwing in the towel please! I spent 2 years showing other peoples dogs, then my own, who proved to be less than what I felt I should exhibit, but I kept at it, until I bought a BEAUTIFUL boy of someone elses breeding, but who will be a wonderful foundation for me, and a SUPER fun dog to show and finish MYSELF. I did not jump into this breed, and breed, I waited 2 years to learn EVERYTHING I could, research every pedigree I could get my hands on, learn everything about genetics, and "calculated risks", etc. before I made the decision to attempt a breeding. Do I consider myself a show breeder? No. I consider myself an exhibitor. I am HOPEFUL my little seven week old kiddos will grow up to be all I tried to throw together in the gene pool for them to be, but I don't have a crystal ball, so we wait. Until then I suppose, I am a back yard breeder, at least Mommy Dearest says so.. LOL

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by DazzlinYT

You know, this is a very interesting topic for me... My Mother (who got extremely lucky in another breed, and produced 4 homebred champions from her FIRST litter) which she called a "calculated risk" decided I was a "backyard breeder" the other day. Thank you mother. I asked her what her criteria for that statement was, and she said because I have not yet finished my own homebred champion. Well considering they are SEVEN WEEKS OLD..I asked her to give them time to at least get lead broken before we go start throwing in the towel please! I spent 2 years showing other peoples dogs, then my own, who proved to be less than what I felt I should exhibit, but I kept at it, until I bought a BEAUTIFUL boy of someone elses breeding, but who will be a wonderful foundation for me, and a SUPER fun dog to show and finish MYSELF. I did not jump into this breed, and breed, I waited 2 years to learn EVERYTHING I could, research every pedigree I could get my hands on, learn everything about genetics, and "calculated risks", etc. before I made the decision to attempt a breeding. Do I consider myself a show breeder? No. I consider myself an exhibitor. I am HOPEFUL my little seven week old kiddos will grow up to be all I tried to throw together in the gene pool for them to be, but I don't have a crystal ball, so we wait. Until then I suppose, I am a back yard breeder, at least Mommy Dearest says so.. LOL

That is sad, I'm sorry your mom said that to you. You are doing everything right and one day soon, you will be proving her wrong with all you have acomplished in your dogs. All the best!

[shyorkies]

Originally Posted by DazzlinYT

You know, this is a very interesting topic for me... My Mother (who got extremely lucky in another breed, and produced 4 homebred champions from her FIRST litter) which she called a "calculated risk" decided I was a "backyard breeder" the other day. Thank you mother. I asked her what her criteria for that statement was, and she said because I have not yet finished my own homebred champion. Well considering they are SEVEN WEEKS OLD..I asked her to give them time to at least get lead broken before we go start throwing in the towel please! I spent 2 years showing other peoples dogs, then my own, who proved to be less than what I felt I should exhibit, but I kept at it, until I bought a BEAUTIFUL boy of someone elses breeding, but who will be a wonderful foundation for me, and a SUPER fun dog to show and finish MYSELF. I did not jump into this breed, and breed, I waited 2 years to learn EVERYTHING I could, research every pedigree I could get my hands on, learn everything about genetics, and "calculated risks", etc. before I made the decision to attempt a breeding. Do I consider myself a show breeder? No. I consider myself an exhibitor. I am HOPEFUL my little seven week old kiddos will grow up to be all I tried to throw together in the gene pool for them to be, but I don't have a crystal ball, so we wait. Until then I suppose, I am a back yard breeder, at least Mommy Dearest says so.. LOL

Becki I am sorry to hear this! But I know you and what determination you have.. You will have your Champion soon, Beaux is a PEFECT example of the breed!