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Beamers Mom 09-08-2010 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 3264446)
the older i get, the heavier they get!!LOL But got to get them up on the grooming table!!
Unfortunately with me it's not a question of age (although that is to be considered).:aimeeyork

evab 09-08-2010 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3264449)
For some that seem to have forgot....I believe the above is the topic of this thread.:)
Woops, where shall we go chaps for a chit chat:aimeeyork

yorkiekist 09-08-2010 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3264449)
For some that seem to have forgot....I believe the above is the topic of this thread.:)
Sorry if you are bored. Someone brought the Skye into this thread and it went from there.

But the yorkie parti gene didnt come from the Skye, period. The off-shoot of the Skye, the Paisely/ Clydsdale, is the dog that was used to get the beautiful silk hair on the Yorkie. Its very doubtful if the Maltese was used for this. Why breed for the wrong color and incorrect texture?

Beamers Mom 09-08-2010 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 3264463)
Sorry if you are bored. Someone brought the Skye into this thread and it went from there.

But the yorkie parti gene didnt come from the Skye, period. The off-shoot of the Skye, the Paisely/ Clydsdale, is the dog that was used to get the beautiful silk hair on the Yorkie. Its very doubtful if the Maltese was used for this. Why breed for the wrong color and incorrect texture?
I don't think Jencar was bored. Think it was just a gentle reminder that we had got way off the topic of what this thread was supposed to be about.:)

yorkiekist 09-08-2010 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Beamers Mom (Post 3264466)
I don't think Jencar was bored. Think it was just a gentle reminder that we had got way off the topic of what this thread was supposed to be about.:)
I hope she wasnt bored!! Skyes are fascinating! But it did get a tad off subject, sorry Jencar.:(

jencar98 09-08-2010 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Beamers Mom (Post 3264466)
I don't think Jencar was bored. Think it was just a gentle reminder that we had got way off the topic of what this thread was supposed to be about.:)
I'm guilty as the next...but we had veered off by quite a bit.:)

There are numerous threads debating biewer/partis and I'm sure there will many more. As far as this thread goes, I believe we've heard from the few YTCA breeders we are going to regarding the thread subject.

I wish all breeders would question potential new owners to the degree that Razz's (my parti boy) breeder did. By the time she finished questioning me, I felt very privileged to be approved for his ownership. I am aware of only a couple of other yorkie breeders that seem to have the same questioning criteria....Cher of Goldenray being one. I think it's kind of ironic, one exhibitor breeder that I know, hates the idea of partis/biewers and a parti breeder having the most thorough owner questioning of any breeders.

Breezeaway 09-08-2010 02:17 PM
Evab you might want to do come correcting on your website as that is not a photo of Gloria Lipman. You need to do some more research hon.;)

jencar98 09-08-2010 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 3264475)
I hope she wasnt bored!! Skyes are fascinating! But it did get a tad off subject, sorry Jencar.:(
No, not bored at all...in fact, the talk of Skyes made me curious enough to research a bit this afternoon. I agree they are fascinating. No need to apologize.......threads go OT all the time.

Wylie's Mom 09-08-2010 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3264488)
I'm guilty as the next...but we had veered off by quite a bit.:)

There are numerous threads debating biewer/partis and I'm sure there will many more. As far as this thread goes, I believe we've heard from the few YTCA breeders we are going to regarding the thread subject.

I wish all breeders would question potential new owners to the degree that Razz's (my parti boy) breeder did. By the time she finished questioning me, I felt very privileged to be approved for his ownership. I am aware of only a couple of other yorkie breeders that seem to have the same questioning criteria....Cher of Goldenray being one. I think it's kind of ironic, one exhibitor breeder that I know, hates the idea of partis/biewers and a parti breeder having the most thorough owner questioning of any breeders.
:thumbup::):thumbup::)

I agree wholeheartedly. I'll just toss in my two cents regarding something earlier in the thread. White coats can definitely be silky, and reflect light...I can tell you that first hand :). And it makes sense to me, since white reflects light and black absorbs it. FWIW.

Breezeaway 09-08-2010 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 3264388)
Thats because there arent any, therefore no need for the DQ in the standard. The only thing that has kept the Skye almost true to the original is that 1:its not a popular breed, 2: the STCA and its members keep an ultra tight rein on these beautiful dogs, 3: extremely limited breeding goes on.

If parti mix Skyes were being exploited like the YOrkie parti breeders are doing, you can bet your boots and DQ would be in effect. But they would do it before the horse got out of the barn.

It is a blessing that the Skye breed is un-popular. Most people have never even seen one in person, only in pictures.
Please do not include all parti breeders in your comments, NOT all exploit the parti.
Do some breeders not exploit the Yorkshire Terrier? Tinys? Teacups etc etc.

gardenyorkies 09-08-2010 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Raymond's Mom (Post 3264373)
You have made an excellent point regarding the purity of the English yorkies. As has been stated on this site, the parti breeders will continue to taint our American bloodlines with parti carriers. There may come a day when it will be very hard to find dogs in the U.S. who breed true. Your English bloodlines may save the genetically pure blue and gold dog.
Yes I agree!...Lets pray it does not go this far~

jencar98 09-08-2010 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gardenyorkies (Post 3264618)
Yes I agree!...Lets pray it does not go this far~
Fortunately, prayers get heard both ways and I'm sure the parti and Biewer fanciers are praying just as hard from their side:D

JeanieK 09-08-2010 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Raymond's Mom (Post 3264373)
You have made an excellent point regarding the purity of the English yorkies. As has been stated on this site, the parti breeders will continue to taint our American bloodlines with parti carriers. There may come a day when it will be very hard to find dogs in the U.S. who breed true. Your English bloodlines may save the genetically pure blue and gold dog.
This is where the entire picture gets skewed. If the anti parti breeders would just take the time to listen to what the parti breeders intentions are, I mean REALLY listen, they would learn that the parti breeders do not want to taint the traditional colored yorkies.

They merely want to add a color variety. They want to improve the looks of the partis because they HAVE been exploited and mass produced and have lost quality.

The idea that they could some how change anything about the traditional standard, is ridiculous. That is not what they want.

Just listen with an open mind. There is no way that adding a color variety will affect the traditional yorkies in any way. There is room in this world for more than one color of yorkie.

If the YTCA would accept the color they could set the standards and rules and have some control. They are foolish to think that just because they DQ'd them, that they will disappear.

gardenyorkies 09-08-2010 05:00 PM
I think everyone has listened...Lack of agreement does not mean lack of understanding...

Genetics tells us this is not a good idea...The understanding of genetics tells us not to accept this...Not the lack of listening...The line HAS been drawn and again AKC will NOT accept anymore variations period!

Raymond's Mom 09-08-2010 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3264648)
This is where the entire picture gets skewed. If the anti parti breeders would just take the time to listen to what the parti breeders intentions are, I mean REALLY listen, they would learn that the parti breeders do not want to taint the traditional colored yorkies.

They merely want to add a color variety. They want to improve the looks of the partis because they HAVE been exploited and mass produced and have lost quality.

The idea that they could some how change anything about the traditional standard, is ridiculous. That is not what they want.

Just listen with an open mind. There is no way that adding a color variety will affect the traditional yorkies in any way. There is room in this world for more than one color of yorkie.

If the YTCA would accept the color they could set the standards and rules and have some control. They are foolish to think that just because they DQ'd them, that they will disappear.
They are foolish to think that just because they DQ'd them, that they will disappear.
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Foolish, the YTCA is not. As long as the parti breeders have money to spend registering their dogs with AKC they will not disappear. That, unfortunately, is a fact that YTCA has been forced to accept. The fact that parti color and off color yorkies will continue to be a DQ is a fact that you will have to accept.


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