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[cj125]

Originally Posted by yorkielady06

i would like to know why the op did not seek out his new owner if that was her intention. Did she not know he had been sold not once but twice? Should she have? How many champion pups has she produced? Does she know where they all end up?

I can tell you that i own a bitch with durrer lines and rothby lines.
how far back?
should i be contacting up the chain?
depends on how far back.
how did i end up with one??? you tell me.
How are they in my pedigrees?
they're in mine, too, so what?
somewhere down the line it happened and i got a bitch with full registration. I also had a male with many champions in his lines, champion grand sired and granddam...how did i get him full registration?
again, you tell me -- and what lines are they -- and were you suppose to have him -- or did he come in the backdoor too?
i own a male and female that are champion sired and i purchased both with no strings attached. How?
do tell!
What about the person who now owns marshall, how did she obtain all those dogs with nice pedigrees?
the same way you are?
how about her champion sired one?
i'd rather not say...

durrer seems to be the foundation of many, many lines - really not a big deal anymore - especially because they're so far back. Having ch lines in your pedigree isn't what's being talked about here. having the champion is. I have 2 dogs with a pedigree full of ch's behind them - they were petted out - as it should be. If they were in any way showable - they wouldn't have been sold. You continue to bring up ch's being in the pedigree but like i said earlier it is not the same as having the champion dog! and if all of this selling with full registration is going on - it does't surprise me - but it does sadden and anger me. What's really lost? honor & integrity... Remember that?

happens every day and not with just "back door" purchases. I do not buy that at all. How many other people have nice lines in their pets or breeding dogs and they did not buy them from the original kennel. No one can tell me this is isolated nor can they say it is all from "backdoor" purchases.

your opinion! :d

[yorkielady06]

how far back?
3rd and 4th gen...
depends on how far back.
Well now is there a rule of thumb we should follow?
they're in mine, too, so what?
The so what part is if these lines are all so protected, how in the heck are we all seeing them in our pedigrees, even in the 3rd generation on an AKC ped?
again, you tell me -- and what lines are they -- and were you suppose to have him -- or did he come in the backdoor too
Nope, I did not get one the "backdoor" way as you call it. I was clear of my intentions, paid cash, and there you have it. Well a few are CH lakewood Ringmaster, Lake Buena Vista Sazon, Camparis Blueprint(multinational champion), Rhapsody in Blue.....
do tell...
I am feeling a little sarcasm...wonder why?
the same way you are?
Ummm what are you accusing me of? I have bought every single one of my dogs from their breeders. Paid in full and with full AKC rights. I have no idea how she obtained her dogs but seems like Marshall was bought and paid for from the post, and from her friend.
There are champions out there to be bought. Period. Open your eyes and look right here on YT 2 members I have seen in the last 3 weeks have even posted about them...well 3 counting this one. So is this a new epidemic?
I sure do remember honor and integrity. I work with it everyday.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by yorkielady06

I would like to know why the OP did not seek out his new owner if that was her intention. Did she not know he had been sold not once but twice? Should she have? How many champion pups has she produced? Does she know where they all end up?

I can tell you that I own a bitch with Durrer lines and Rothby lines. Should I be contacting up the chain? How did I end up with one??? How are they in my pedigrees? Somewhere down the line it happened and I got a bitch with full registration. I also had a male with many champions in his lines, champion grand sired and granddam...how did I get him full registration? I own a male and female that are Champion sired and I purchased both with no strings attached. How? What about the person who now owns Marshall, how did she obtain all those dogs with nice pedigrees? How about her champion sired one?

Happens every day and not with just "back door" purchases. I do not buy that at all. How many other people have nice lines in their pets or breeding dogs and they did not buy them from the original kennel. No one can tell me this is isolated nor can they say it is all from "backdoor" purchases.

You seem to have completely missed my point. I wasn't speaking in general terms. How or why you breed is none of my business. If you do things ethically, good for you. Marshall's case is 100% different from someone getting a dog from line x through the proper means. Marshall was passed around like a hand me down rag doll. No ethical breeder would want that for their pup, and I bet you anything that Marshall's breeder thought that would never happen to one of her own. Now, the person who has Marshall now, knowing how Marshall ended up at her door step, really out of respect for the breeder should reach out to her. I'm pretty sure she now knows that this isn't the life that was envisioned for Marshall, and out of respect for all the work Marshall's breeder put into him she should reach out to his breeder. That was all I was trying to say.

I don't know much about the show world, or breeding for that matter. This case is more about common sense and decency that a discussion about "back door" purchases.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by cj125

your opinion! :d

I think you said it better than I did.

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by cj125

your opinion! :d

CJ, no need to go further with this person. This is not about her lines its about Marshall. My heart goes out to Rosanne, this was a learning experience that will not be repeated. Lissette

[yorkielady06]

Well my heart goes out to Marshall. He was the one bounced around like a commodity and I do hope that he is now in a home that taking good care of him, playing ball, cuddling, scratching, etc. That is what matters most, not someones tarnished reputation.

[Micah my love]

Originally Posted by yorkielady06

Well my heart goes out to Marshall. He was the one bounced around like a commodity and I do hope that he is now in a home that taking good care of him, playing ball, cuddling, scratching, etc. That is what matters most, not someones tarnished reputation.

i believe Marshall is doing great in his new home and is being loved as he should be.

[cj125]

Originally Posted by yorkielady06

I sure do remember honor and integrity. I work with it everyday.

"yorkielady06" are you also "sooznana" here on YT?

Are you Susan or Nana?

Are you Colorsilk Pups or Top Knotch?



Colorsilk Pups
PuppyFind.com - Outside Link


Top Knotch -- Is that Scarlette & Lion?
Yorkies


Is this California Wild's Lion d'or?
nursery


Yorkshire Terrier Puppies for Sale: Ch Sired


Your girl Scarlette?
Yorkshire Terrier Pictures


http://www.puppyfind.com/view_listing/?list_id=m59h3yo94u&sid=1ae7192deb8732c3cda126c2be ac26cc&back=%2Fl%2F%3Facct_id%3D1708%26country%3D% 26state%3D%26page%3D1%26order_by%3D%26back%3D

[Beamers Mom]

Looking at the links, it appears that Colorsilk and Topknotch are one and the same.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

Looking at the links, it appears that Colorsilk and Topknotch are one and the same.

Amazing just simply amazing what can be found out with a little Google search.

[143julz]

MAN, o MAN

Another thread that's like a train wreck, (couldn't turn away from)...It's like, from the beginning ya'll were on to something....Like Dick Tracy work

[Rhetts_mama]

I don't know who any of the breeders are in this scenario or in the list provided by cj125, but this bothered me on the Topknotch site:

Due to the economy this litter will be sold without
registration papers so price reduced.



Really? Was saving $25 / litter + $2/pup really that much of a money saver? The pups in question are still a grand a piece.

[Brooklynn]

Hmmmm so many kennel names for one person....seems alittle on the something to hide kinda thing....but of course just my opinion.

[speleogirl37]

You guys are awesome. It just amazes me what some of you guys can find!

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

I don't know who any of the breeders are in this scenario or in the list provided by cj125, but this bothered me on the Topknotch site:

Due to the economy this litter will be sold without
registration papers so price reduced.



Really? Was saving $25 / litter + $2/pup really that much of a money saver? The pups in question are still a grand a piece.

And you can make an appointment to view the pups by e-mailing her at susan@colorsilkpups.com - you think she would use a topknotch address.