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04-08-2009, 01:02 PM | #1 |
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| SHOW Exhibitor 's i have a question i have been in a light hearted debate at what point do you consider yourself a show breeder? or have the right to call your self a show breeder what criteria do you think you must have met to give yourself this title? |
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04-08-2009, 04:19 PM | #2 |
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| That is a very good question and I have thought about that myself. I love to show, although lately I have not been in a position to and I love breeding yorkies but I would not consider myself a true show breeder until I have produced something worthy of showing and winning. My goal is to produce show quality puppies but I know that takes time. I consider someone a show breeder that has champion dogs and has produced champions dogs. But then if someone buys a show quality dog, has a handler finish it and buys a show quality female to breed to their champion would they be considered a show breeder even if they have not produced anything themselves yet? It will be interesting to know what others think. |
04-08-2009, 04:58 PM | #3 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | I think a show breeder is any breeder who shows her dogs, being a show breeder in itself does not impress me in the least because people show for different reasons. If it's part of an overall program designed to produce healthy dogs, that meet standard, then I'm impressed. I really think it's important that show breeders have the highest ethical standards and when they are also members of the mother club, or at least follow their guidelines carefully, and strive for excellence they win my respect, admiration, and gratitude. Some breeders seem to believe that it's more important if you have produced your show pup from scratch, but I see no problem with obtaining the best breeding stock possible, and producing wonderfully healthy beautiful dogs. Hiring a handler seems irrelevant to the process, some people are better suited to this part, and enjoy the actual showing, and others would hate this part, but could still be wonderful breeders.
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04-08-2009, 05:03 PM | #4 |
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| This is an excellent thread! I agree with BJH, that a show breeder is someone who has bred a dog that has attained an AKC championship. I am curious, I have heard someone who breeds dogs that compete (and are titled) in obedience (never has earned any conformation titles) call themselves a "show breeder"--any thoughts on this one? |
04-08-2009, 05:23 PM | #5 |
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| This is something that has been on my mine lately... I was at a show and there was a person there who has bred and showed their own dogs for about 15 years. This person has finished several dogs and continues to show on a regular basis. Yet, someone called this person a back-yard-breeder. So when would this person have done enough to be called a show breeder? Under the discussion above, this person would already be a show breeder. I'd be interested to hear what others think about this.
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04-08-2009, 07:13 PM | #7 |
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| i do not considr myself a show breeder i am an Exibitor and breeder even though i breed for show i do not think i have earned that title yet |
04-08-2009, 10:20 PM | #8 |
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| I consider myself as a small hobby/exhibitor. It has been very depressing lately due to this bad economy and lack of funds. I havent shown in about a year and havent had a litter in over 1 1/2 years.
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04-09-2009, 05:35 AM | #10 |
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| That's how I feel too--- When I am showing the offspring of champions of my own breeding I might start referring to myself as a "show breeder." It's a hard earned designation. |
04-09-2009, 07:49 AM | #11 |
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| Rose, You asked this question on another list and I hope I answered you correctly . I want to add one more thing, and it's just my opinion. If I had to I would probably define myself as a breeder/exhibitor. But, I don't understand the necessity of anyone defining theirselves as a show/breeder. As stated before most exhibitor/breeders breed for themselves and not to use any term to sell puppies. If breeding correctly their reputation will preceed itself as being one that breeds to improve the breed.
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04-09-2009, 08:51 AM | #13 | |
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I also want to add - that I do not think this is right either when someone is selling a "show prospect/show quality" dog without themself having their own champion. Whether it was one they bought and finished or one that was from their own breeding and finished. I see this all the time though. One can go to all the shows in the world with their dog/s, but if they are not winning what do they have. Are they blind sided. If so how will they judge their own pups. T. Last edited by topknot; 04-09-2009 at 08:54 AM. | |
04-09-2009, 09:37 AM | #14 | ||
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Like BJH said, maybe this person did not meet the criteria as a responsible breeder --who knows. Just try not to feed into the gossip and give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise. Quote:
With anything, you get the good with the bad. There will always be those people who sell on unscrupulous sites claiming they are "show breeders." For whatever reason anything involving show dogs or champions tends to strike a magical cord and definitley sells puppies--for some people its unfortunately just an avenue for them to exploit in the name of the "bottom line" | ||
04-09-2009, 09:41 AM | #15 | |
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Yes Mary you did and thank you i just am very strong in my opinion that we must earn the right to even think we are much less say we are and i prefer exhibitor/hobby breeder at this point as i am still working on my first champion and working on my own bred by and i know i still have a long way to go i will get there one day but i know it takes time and patience and learning and more learning thank you | |
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