Precious little one recovering from shunt surgery in TN

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by JCali

YTNR really does have very high adoption fees for some of their dogs. I understand that their medical care has probably cost more than that, or they use the extra money to cover expenses for the older dogs, but I feel like the pricey ones won't end up getting adopted b/c people don't want to spend that much on a rescue, especially with the economy the way it is. If people were willing to spend that much they could just buy a baby from a breeder and they would know the history of their Yorkie's line. Plus, rescue dogs are more likely to have issues b/c of what has happened in their past. I am really glad that YTNR rescues these babies, but I see the high priced dogs on there for months, while the lower priced dogs get adopted more quickly. All the dogs that were over 500 in November (with some posted in September) are STILL on the website, while many of the ones priced 100-450/500 have been adopted or are in the process of being adopted. None of the higher priced ones have been reduced either, even though they have been on the site for months. These babies need forever homes, but they don't have them, I believe, b/c of their high cost.

You obviously do not get the point of rescue. I currently have 3 rescues and 1 foster. I do not know their "lines" but that is not the point of adopting a rescue anyway. I did it to give them all a good and loving home. You cannot tell the difference from a rescue or a pup with so called "lines". I can tell you that all of my pups INCLUDING Truman who was almost DEAD from neglect are wonderful dogs. I have said this before and I will say it again~these dogs did not fall from the sky. They were once someone's pet that were most likely purchased from a breeder or pet shop. It is not their fault that someone made the decision to abandon or neglect them.

Since when do rescue dog get put onto the clearance rack like Walmart?

[JCali]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

You obviously do not get the point of rescue. I currently have 3 rescues and 1 foster. I do not know their "lines" but that is not the point of adopting a rescue anyway. I did it to give them all a good and loving home. You cannot tell the difference from a rescue or a pup with so called "lines". I can tell you that all of my pups INCLUDING Truman who was almost DEAD from neglect are wonderful dogs. I have said this before and I will say it again~these dogs did not fall from the sky. They were once someone's pet that were most likely purchased from a breeder or pet shop. It is not their fault that someone made the decision to abandon or neglect them.

Since when do rescue dog get put onto the clearance rack like Walmart?

I think you really misunderstood what I was trying to say. I know that rescue dogs can be absolutely wonderful dogs, and I know exactly what the "point" of rescuing a dog is. I am just saying that some of them are emotionally scarred from their experience, such as Bertha on the YTNR site, and these dogs need a specific kind of home. I think rescues are great and that is how I am going to get MY next dog, but if people are going to spend $850-$2000 for a dog, a lot of times they want one that is a baby and has a health background of the parents, grandparents, etc. I don't care whether my dog has a piece of paper saying it is of good breeding or fits the "standard", all I was saying is that you may not know about certain health problems that a rescue dog may be predisposed to, b/c you may not know about their background. Of course any dog could end up with health problems, but it is less likely if they were bred from medically healthy dogs. They could end up being very healthy, but I think it is more uncertain with a rescue dog, which is why I think it is hard to ask someone to pay $2000 for a dog that could very well need more expensive procedures in the future, especially with the economy being so bad (as I said before). Dogs are very expensive to take care of with health issues or not, so you need to have money set aside from the beginning in case anything ever happens to your pet and you need to pay a high medical bill, which is hard for some people if they have to start off spending $2000.
It is absolutely not the dog's fault that it was abandoned, so please don't insinuate that I think that. As I said before, I understand that the medical costs of the dogs are why the fee is so high, but they are not being adopted and I think that the cost is what a major reason for that. I am not saying that rescue dogs should be put on "the clearance rack like Walmart," but YTNR is charging MORE for some of their dogs than even many reputable breeders would. I am a supporter of YTNR and all rescues, I was only trying to point out that by charging so high a fee, the dogs are less likely to get their well deserved forever home.

[JCali]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

You obviously do not get the point of rescue. I currently have 3 rescues and 1 foster. I do not know their "lines" but that is not the point of adopting a rescue anyway. I did it to give them all a good and loving home. You cannot tell the difference from a rescue or a pup with so called "lines". I can tell you that all of my pups INCLUDING Truman who was almost DEAD from neglect are wonderful dogs. I have said this before and I will say it again~these dogs did not fall from the sky. They were once someone's pet that were most likely purchased from a breeder or pet shop. It is not their fault that someone made the decision to abandon or neglect them.

Since when do rescue dog get put onto the clearance rack like Walmart?

Also, I was just wondering, would you pay $2000? I am not being sarcastic about this, I honestly am just curious. While I am sure the dogs are complete dolls, and I would be more than willing to pay the expenses that a dog brings, I just couldn't justify spending $2000, in addition to all the expenses of owning a dog, on any dog (rescue or not) when I could use 1500 to 1900 of that to help my family with college/medical expenses.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by JCali

Also, I was just wondering, would you pay $2000? I am not being sarcastic about this, I honestly am just curious. While I am sure the dogs are complete dolls, and I would be more than willing to pay the expenses that a dog brings, I just couldn't justify spending $2000, in addition to all the expenses of owning a dog, on any dog (rescue or not) when I could use 1500 to 1900 of that to help my family with college/medical expenses.

No, if you look back I had replied earlier that I thought it was outrageous to ask that amount of money! Usually there are set fees by age and not what the pup had in medical expenses. That is why rescues take donations. (I believe Truman's fee is $150 and he had already cost more in vet bills on his first visit. He will still need to be neutered and have a dental.

I adopted Doodlebug and paid $350 for his adoption fee which I opted to pay IN ADVANCE. He was a puppy and his mom had a c-section. There was the bill for that and all of the vet visits with the puppies from her liter. They had a lot of dogs in the rescue and I knew how they would have difficulty paying the expenses. When I picked him up I also brought supplies that they had asked for on their website. At Christmas I sent a small gift from Doodlebug. Bogey was a whopping $60 which included a $35 neuter deposit. I told them to keep the deposit as a donation. Then at Christmas I drove back to the IN shelter and made a donation and had pictures with Santa taken.

I did all of this because I wanted to give back. I also adopted them not knowing what I was getting but wanting to give them a good home. I couldn't justify spending $2,000 on ANY dog EVER!!!!!

Since I have no idea how they set their prices it is shocking to me too! YTNR is a HUGE rescue that takes in a lot of donations. Maybe someone should pose this question directly to them They do seem to have some pretty high adoption charges compared to others. Look how sick Truman is and there was no question about the money it would take to make him well. It wasn't even considered that his price should cover his medical bills. They took him because he was in need.

[JCali]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

No, if you look back I had replied earlier that I thought it was outrageous to ask that amount of money! Usually there are set fees by age and not what the pup had in medical expenses. That is why rescues take donations. (I believe Truman's fee is $150 and he had already cost more in vet bills on his first visit. He will still need to be neutered and have a dental.

I adopted Doodlebug and paid $350 for his adoption fee which I opted to pay IN ADVANCE. He was a puppy and his mom had a c-section. There was the bill for that and all of the vet visits with the puppies from her liter. They had a lot of dogs in the rescue and I knew how they would have difficulty paying the expenses. When I picked him up I also brought supplies that they had asked for on their website. At Christmas I sent a small gift from Doodlebug. Bogey was a whopping $60 which included a $35 neuter deposit. I told them to keep the deposit as a donation. Then at Christmas I drove back to the IN shelter and made a donation and had pictures with Santa taken.

I did all of this because I wanted to give back. I also adopted them not knowing what I was getting but wanting to give them a good home. I couldn't justify spending $2,000 on ANY dog EVER!!!!!

Since I have no idea how they set their prices it is shocking to me too! YTNR is a HUGE rescue that takes in a lot of donations. Maybe someone should pose this question directly to them They do seem to have some pretty high adoption charges compared to others. Look how sick Truman is and there was no question about the money it would take to make him well. It wasn't even considered that his price should cover his medical bills. They took him because he was in need.

That is how I feel. Perhaps I did not phrase it right in my first post, but I think we have similar ideas and beliefs. As I said, I could care less about having some certificate or whatever for my dog, all I care about is that they like lots of love and cuddles, because that is what they would would be getting with me

[ladyjane]

I just read this thread and must say I am in shock. If it were not so late here, I would go check that adoption fee out...I have never heard of a fee like that in all my life..surely it is an error?!?!?!?

[xxmxaxrxyxx]

oh my what an adorable face!

[JCali]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I just read this thread and must say I am in shock. If it were not so late here, I would go check that adoption fee out...I have never heard of a fee like that in all my life..surely it is an error?!?!?!?

It is not an error. They also have a couple for over $1000

[luvfla]

WHo sets the adoption fee? COuld it be that the foster doesn't want to give her up? Just asking, I'm new to all of this.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by luvfla

WHo sets the adoption fee? COuld it be that the foster doesn't want to give her up? Just asking, I'm new to all of this.

I can speak for Truman~his adoption fee was based on his age. His adoption will be set by his needs. If I had set his fee it would have been $1,000,000! *I'm sorry I just had to say it.

Seriously, I do not know the inside working for all rescues but I do have experience with several and as far as I have seen it is usually set by their age. Puppies being the most expensive (Doodlebug~puppy $350) and seniors (Truman~senior $150) being the least. So that also makes me wonder if a dog comes into their rescue and needs no additional care (ie~spay/nueter, dental, vaccines, etc) would their fee be reduced~I doubt it. I was always under the impression that with a set fee for adoptions the dogs that needed less vetting and their fee was say $300 the additional money from their adoption (even $10) would help cover the ones that cost more for their care. Then you add in donations it would help bring this gap closer together.

Personally, I think that YHR's site is set up very well since Truman has his own little Paypal button to donate directly to his care. So even if you donated $1 you know just were your money will go~to care for the little man

[TLC]

I saw her precious little face a couple of weeks ago when searching petfinder.

I clicked on her, and started to read about her having LS surgery. Since I have experience, I was drawn to her and b/c she looks like a mini Cuddles (the Morkie in my avatar) - BUT when I saw her adoption fee was $2000 - I was really, really surprised...Especially since she WILL require special food, supplements, BAT testing, etc...for LIFE

I don't know the reasons behind that high fee, hopefully she will find a good loving home that will have the knowledge to give her the proper after care, as her chances of possibly shooting another shunt or MVD down the road is pretty high....

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by luvfla

WHo sets the adoption fee? COuld it be that the foster doesn't want to give her up? Just asking, I'm new to all of this.

I am quite sure their Board sets the fees.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by TLC

I saw her precious little face a couple of weeks ago when searching petfinder.

I clicked on her, and started to read about her having LS surgery. Since I have experience, I was drawn to her and b/c she looks like a mini Cuddles (the Morkie in my avatar) - BUT when I saw her adoption fee was $2000 - I was really, really surprised...Especially since she WILL require special food, supplements, BAT testing, etc...for LIFE

I don't know the reasons behind that high fee, hopefully she will find a good loving home that will have the knowledge to give her the proper after care, as her chances of possibly shooting another shunt or MVD down the road is pretty high....

It could be that they set the fee that high to discourage applications from people who are just looking for a cute little yorkie. There are many people who do not understand about medical issues and that might be part of the reason. I still think it is extremely high....but, if they get someone who is willing to pay that much, chances are they will be great adopters and know what they are getting involved in.
Just a thought....I am not saying that I think the fee is reasonable, just trying to understand it.

[TLC]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

It could be that they set the fee that high to discourage applications from people who are just looking for a cute little yorkie. There are many people who do not understand about medical issues and that might be part of the reason. I still think it is extremely high....but, if they get someone who is willing to pay that much, chances are they will be great adopters and know what they are getting involved in.
Just a thought....I am not saying that I think the fee is reasonable, just trying to understand it.

Oh that does make sense....But ya know it could go both ways. Someone could save up that $2000 and maybe not have any more $ after that...But I am sure that the rescue has a very good screening process. I bet she's gonna get a great home

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by TLC

Oh that does make sense....But ya know it could go both ways. Someone could save up that $2000 and maybe not have any more $ after that...But I am sure that the rescue has a very good screening process. I bet she's gonna get a great home

I hope she does! I am sure they will be very careful in her placement.