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Old 06-10-2005, 12:22 PM   #31
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HI everyone-this seems to have turned into a heated debate...just wanted to share my story. I owned (RIP) an American Staffordshire Terrier (aka pit bull) a few years back. He was the sweetest and gentlest dog. Thought he was well...the size of a yorkie...anyway, my mother was out walking him one day in broad daylight and out of nowhere, came this Chow. With no provocation whatsoever, the Chow started attacking my mother and my dog. My poor Destiny was trying so hard to defend my mother and himself, he was wrapping himself around my mother with his leash and got bit numerous times because of it as did my mother. If it wasn't for a kind man that saw what was happening and came out with a bat...I dont know what would have happened. I believe, from what I have been told, that he struck the animal on his backside. The dog backed off and ran back to his yard. His owner was an arrogant bastard (excuse my french) and was laughing at the whole scene. I am SO happy that that man used the bat on that dog. I am glad he didnt kill the dog, but I think it was justified to prevent my mother and dog from being severely harmed and I truly thank him.

Now on the other hand, I have a pretty decent background with Amer. Staff. Terriers as my cousins and myself owned them for years. I know they are just as strong as Rottweilers. Now, for me to believe this woman strangled an "attacking" Rottweiler is hard for me to grasp. My cousins dog was 130lbs as well, and I couldnt even WALK him he was so strong and would pull me down the block. If this dog was fighting her back, there is NO WAY she would have managed to strangle it. I think there are definite pieces to the story missing...

oh and Kristy I am soooo sorry to hear about ur cousin. My prayers are with you.
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Kristy - My heart breaks for you over the loss of your cousin. I am so saddened to hear of this news and please know you are in my thoughts.

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Old 06-10-2005, 02:22 PM   #33
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Kristy I am terribly sorry about your cousin. I am sure your family is in shock. I think this woman could have gotten her dog away without killing the other dog. It just seems seh went a step too far and id overreact in my opinion.
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I feel badly now about using Kevin as an example of murdering and relating it to a dog. It has just not sunk in yet that he is not going to be around anymore :'( Thanks everyone for your well wishes for my family. I'm sure I can look back on them more when it actually SINKS IN that he is gone.
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Kristy, Mocha and I are really sorry to hear about your cousin.. That is such a sad story!! You and your family are in my prayers

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Old 06-11-2005, 07:16 AM   #36
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Kristy, I am sooo sorry about your family's loss. you guys are in our prayers!
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So I guess the rotty was staked in her own yard and the lady went over to her yard and grabbed her after the yorkies went over and caused the problem,no I don't think so, any one knows that the rotty was not contained or it couldn't have grabbed the yorkie,now I dont think the stiuation was good no matter what, but it never would have happened if the rotty was in its own yard,so prosicute the rotty owner for not taking care of the pet in the proper way...if my yorkie went to someone elses yard and got bit,it would be my fault for not watching them,they are required to be in a fenced yard unless on leach with us...thanks for letting me give my openion
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I know exactly what to think. of course she should have defended herself and i feel bad that it attacked her yorkie but she didn't have to do that! she did intentionally kill the dog if she was twisting his collar and slamming him against the house. I am sooooooooooooooooooo mad right now i think the keybords gonna brake. thats teriable. obviously the owner wanted to get the dog off and get it under control but the woman killed it!!! that makes me sick. and i know this is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY different than what most of you wrote but that's just how i am when it comes to animals. it doesn't matter if they are a 2 pound toy fox terrier or a 180 pound newfinland. none should be killed that brutally. i don't think it was the owners fault. people always say that but its not always true. sometimes stuff just happens. i'm soooooo mad right now. i feel teriable about the yorkie but what that woman did,imo,was completley unesscary and cruel.

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I am crying for the situation of mommy and Yorkie but in my opinion, mommy got carried away. Why wasn't she checking on her baby when she got him free? That would have been my FIRST priority. Was there blood? It didn't sound like it, in my understanding that is what sets most people off, blood.

You never know what you will do or how you will react until you actually get into a situation. I can SAY that I would have stopped beating that dog when he let go of my baby but would I? I like to think so. I think the mommy was wrong to go on and on. If the dog wasn't defending himself, and that's the way it sounded, why didn't she realize it?

I think there were wrongs on both sides, beginning with the Bull terrier being loose. When my kids fight I try to get to the bottom of how it started so I can show them how to prevent it next time. These dogs can't talk and the story I read apparently didn't say what the boys story was. As someone else said could the Yorkie have been defending his territory? It doesn't sound from the hurts the Yorkie suffered that the Bull Terrier was trying to kill him. And if something that much bigger than me tried to grab me in it's mouth, I don't think I would be holding still. Which would compound the injuries. I wouldn't know the intentions of something that suddenly grabbed me up.

How long does it take to strangle something? If the Yorkie owner didn't have control of herself enough to know the dog wasn't fighting back, how could she have been in such a frenzie when she didn't know how badly her baby was hurt? Possibly the Yorkie owner didn't realize the dog wasn't fighting back because the Bull owner was fighting to get her loose? Again the story didn't covered it.

Maybe the best way to handle the situation is for the Bull Terrier owner to subtract the cost of her dog from the total bills of the Yorkie and both of the owners let it go.
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[QUOTE=SoCalyorkiLvr][COLOR=Teal]Murderers are someone's child. All criminals have parents and they are someone's child. This is no excuse for not "stopping the crime" being committed and trying to save the victim.




ok i know i already posted but here's more. The crime was stopped! even if it weighed as much as her it still could ahve torn her to shreds with hardley any strength. if it was sitting there taking it it wasn't agressive. and the yorkie only had a few marks on his stomach....? sounds like nothing at all was happening because that dog also could have killed the yorkie the second it got in her mouth. the victom was already inside safe and ok. the crime was already stopped but there was another crime, a new crime, being commited. she had no reason whatsoever to kill the dog. ok maybe i would hit it but i would never kill a dog or any animal! when my dog rusty was attacked by a pitt i didn't know what to do. i was 6. i heard the man cheering the dog on. then a nice man walked by and got the pitt off rusty. the dog had to be put down but i would have been soooooooooo much happier if it had been the owner. but that dog was agressive and you could tell. my uncle also has a rottie named lacey. she sounds a lot like this dog and she would never hurt anything! IMO
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You took my quote and used it out of context but I know this thread has gotten sort of confusing. That quote was from a discussion with Stewie's mom. I was using an analogy about the fact that just because a criminal is someones's child doesn't mean they should get away with a crime. We were no longer talking about the incident that started the thread.

I think that none of us really know what happened because we weren't there and the article is pure hearsay. We can only talk in generalizations about what we might do in a similar situation. I was just surprised that some people said they wouldn't defend their dog if he/she was attacked.
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Megan, you are wise beyond your years! I am very impressed with how mature you are. Your mom did a good job raising a smart, self thinking young lady. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Give mom a hug and tell her thanks.
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socalyorkilvr-sorry i didn't realize that. i defenatly would defend my dogs (rusty or tucker)without hesitation. and i agree that none of us really know what happened. but the point is she killed the dog and she didn't have to. once again sorry.


lilly'smom-thank you. its weird she never did like animals that i liked(she's scared of horses, doesn't like cats,and the only dogs she ever really loved were holly,bandit and now tucker)but we still have 2 dogs,2cats,a hamster,a turtle,and fish,and i ride horses. i'll never know... i think i get it from my cousin....? thanks again!

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\ If a dog jumps my fence and runs into my yard to attack, who do I blame except myself for not watching more closely or protecting my yard better?
I totaly get what you're saying. but i think if a dog jumped my fence it would be the owners fault. that wouldn't be your fault. i still wouldn't hurt it. i don't get how you could say it was your fault. that shows how much you love stewie and i couldn't agree more! but still if a dog did jump your fence to attack you or stewie that isn't your fault that would be the owner's fault.like i keep saying over and over and over again! lol.
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