Does this seem alright??

[RLC12345678]

Ok, some of you know that I was having trouble with my vet ripping me off. Well I changed vets and I absolutely LOVE my new vet! I am SO excited! She and her whole staff love both my babies. The vet even took down the name & number of my breeder because she is interested in getting one! I thought that was so flattering. The best part is that she has great prices. She went through the medical records from my old vet and pointed out the things they ripped me off on and told me that she does not do those sorts of things.

So, my question is, Hootie is 14 weeks old now and the next time she is due for shots is when she is 16 weeks old. I also need to get her spayed. The vet told me that I could bring her in when she was 16 weeks and get her spayed and her 16 week old shots all at the same time. I told her that I wanted to wait a little while to get her spayed bc I wanted to get her baby teeth pulled at the same time so I wouldn't have to put her under twice. She told me that the incidence of mammary cancer is increasing at a rapid rate and she wanted to get Hootie spayed at soon as possible, but that it was a good idea to pull the baby teeth at the same time so she wouldn't have to go under twice. But, she didn't want to charge me for an office visit in 2 weeks just to get shots. So, she told me to come back when Hootie's adult teeth started coming in, which would be in about 3 or 4 weeks. At that time, when she is 17-18 weeks old, she would spay her, pull all her baby teeth, and give her 16 wk shots all at the same time.

Does this sound plausible to ya'll?? That is a lot to put my little baby through all in one day. Is it ok for her to get baby teeth pulled if she doesn't have a big tooth in that place there yet? She will have some adult teeth, though. I'm not worried about her getting spayed earlier than 6 months bc the vet seemed completely confident in doing it early. Is it ok to give her shots the same day she has all the surgery? What do you guys think??

[suz]

When you get any teeth extracted, or have her spayed, they'll "put her under". The more often they are "put under", the more often likely something will go wrong. There's ALWAYS the chance that he/she will not come out of the ansthesia, so the less times they are anesthasized (?), the better. I'd have them both done at the same time. As well as the shots. As for her not having a tooth to replace the pulled tooth, the new tooth will come in. It'll only be a few days. You'd be surprised at how much they can still eat and chew up with a couple of teeth missing!!!
Suz

[LuvMySissy]

I'm glad you found a vet you are comfortable with and who will not rip you off. I would personally be hesitant to both anesthetize and give puppy shots together. My vet was very cautious with Sissy's shots - would only give one at a time and spread out two weeks apart at a minimum. As for pulling baby teeth without the adult ones being present - I'm not sure here, but it seems like this could cause problems with spacing when the adult teeth come in. Baby teeth don't always need to be pulled, only if they are still there when adult teeth are also present in the same space.

It is possible that this new vet is looking to combine things to keep the cost down since you were ripped off by the other vet. Good luck.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by RLC12345678

Ok, some of you know that I was having trouble with my vet ripping me off. Well I changed vets and I absolutely LOVE my new vet! I am SO excited! She and her whole staff love both my babies. The vet even took down the name & number of my breeder because she is interested in getting one! I thought that was so flattering. The best part is that she has great prices. She went through the medical records from my old vet and pointed out the things they ripped me off on and told me that she does not do those sorts of things.

So, my question is, Hootie is 14 weeks old now and the next time she is due for shots is when she is 16 weeks old. I also need to get her spayed. The vet told me that I could bring her in when she was 16 weeks and get her spayed and her 16 week old shots all at the same time. I told her that I wanted to wait a little while to get her spayed bc I wanted to get her baby teeth pulled at the same time so I wouldn't have to put her under twice. She told me that the incidence of mammary cancer is increasing at a rapid rate and she wanted to get Hootie spayed at soon as possible, but that it was a good idea to pull the baby teeth at the same time so she wouldn't have to go under twice. But, she didn't want to charge me for an office visit in 2 weeks just to get shots. So, she told me to come back when Hootie's adult teeth started coming in, which would be in about 3 or 4 weeks. At that time, when she is 17-18 weeks old, she would spay her, pull all her baby teeth, and give her 16 wk shots all at the same time.

Does this sound plausible to ya'll?? That is a lot to put my little baby through all in one day. Is it ok for her to get baby teeth pulled if she doesn't have a big tooth in that place there yet? She will have some adult teeth, though. I'm not worried about her getting spayed earlier than 6 months bc the vet seemed completely confident in doing it early. Is it ok to give her shots the same day she has all the surgery? What do you guys think??

No this is not a good plan at all. First of all, never ever get any vaccinations done when undergoing anaesthesia or anywhere near the time a surgery was performed. YOu want at least 3 or 4 weeks before a vaccination is given either prior or after a surgery. If you give a vaccination and an accident happens a few days later that requires surgery, nothing you can do but have it done and at least the vacc's weren't done at the same time.
That poor little body and organs are going to try to process the anaesthesia and vaccinations all at the same time. Looking for trouble there is what will be happening.
For spaying, there is no problem whatsoever waiting until she has her second teeth erupting so any retained baby teeth can be removed at the same time. Seven to eight months of age is perfectly fine.
I have never heard of a risk of mammary tumours in puppies so young. Once they are getting over a year and reaching sexual maturity then the risk may increase with each year and each heat that goes by.
Your new vet likely is okay just not terribly knowledgeable about Toy breeds and Yorkies in particular.

[RLC12345678]

My older yorkie, Hobbs, had to have almost all of his baby teeth pulled. They pulled a lot when he got neutered, but he ended up having to "go under" a 2nd time to get the rest pulled. That is something I want to avoid at all costs with Hootie. I think I will go ahead and get her 16 week old shots in 2 weeks and then wait a little while longer before I get her spayed. That way, she'll have more adult teeth to maybe help with the spacing, ect.

If anyone else has any other thoughts, please let me know! Thanks so much for the input.

[ARCHIE]

I would not do all those things at once. Why take a chance on problems?
Poor baby. Why do puppy teeth have to be removed yet? Don't you think
they will come out on their own. I always had my pups spayed at 6mos.
My vet won't do it sooner. Good luck in whatever you deceide. Just seems
like a lot for such a baby to go through all at once. Sometimes we have
to make the choices and not let our vet deceide for us.

[kalina82]

i wouldn't get them all done at the same time, not because you shouldn't get the shots at the same time as the surgery but becuase i don't like the idea of spaying at 4 months. the chances of breast cancer increases only AFTER your female goes into heat. As long as you get her spayed before her first heat she'll be fine. If i were you, i'd get her shots done at 16 weeks, and then wait another month for the spay/teeth extraction. And IMO i wouldn't get teeth pulled unless there was a problem. i would wait until her k-9's came in to determine if she needs teeth pulled.

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

I would not do all those things at once. Why take a chance on problems?
Poor baby. Why do puppy teeth have to be removed yet? Don't you think
they will come out on their own. I always had my pups spayed at 6mos.
My vet won't do it sooner. Good luck in whatever you deceide. Just seems
like a lot for such a baby to go through all at once. Sometimes we have
to make the choices and not let our vet deceide for us.

I agree that sometimes we have to use our own instincts and make some decisions for ourselves sometimes. I definately want to get her spayed right at 6 months or before. I don't want to take a chance of her going through her first heat before I get her spayed. I know she will have to have baby teeth pulled because I have her older brother, Hobbs, and he had to get almost ALL of his baby teeth pulled. I just don't wnat to have to put her under anesthesia twice.

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by kalina82

i would wait until her k-9's came in to determine if she needs teeth pulled.

That is what the vet said, too. She said that the canines should come in within the next few weeks.

[Lacy's Mom]

I agree with Lorraine. Spaying can wait. Even if she comes into heat early, I would rather take that risk then putting them under too young or putting them under twice.

[vainchick5]

I personally would never vaccinate and use anesthesia at the same time. The body won't know what to react to and they can counter each other and cause problems for your baby. I would do the vaccinations, then 3 weeks later get her spayed and have teeth removed.

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by vainchick5

I personally would never vaccinate and use anesthesia at the same time. The body won't know what to react to and they can counter each other and cause problems for your baby. I would do the vaccinations, then 3 weeks later get her spayed and have teeth removed.

That sounds like a really good plan. I'm going to call my vet right now and change my appointments around.

I REALLY REALLY appreciate everyone's advice! My instincts told me something just did not sound right about that. I'm glad that all of you agree with my instincts!

[vainchick5]

Originally Posted by RLC12345678

That sounds like a really good plan. I'm going to call my vet right now and change my appointments around.

I REALLY REALLY appreciate everyone's advice! My instincts told me something just did not sound right about that. I'm glad that all of you agree with my instincts!

The vets get so many big dogs that sometimes they forget that these little babies can't handle all of that. But the spay and teeth extraction will be good together and the vaccinations will be good together. If the vet is concerned about you paying an extra office visit, have them not charge you for one

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by vainchick5

The vets get so many big dogs that sometimes they forget that these little babies can't handle all of that. But the spay and teeth extraction will be good together and the vaccinations will be good together. If the vet is concerned about you paying an extra office visit, have them not charge you for one

That is so true. There are alot more big dogs they see than little ones like ours!! I think she was being cautious about charging me for an office visit bc she knows about my other vet ripping me off. It's not like I can't afford it, I just don't appreciate people charging me for unnecessary stuff. For instance, when Hootie got an ear infection, my old vet made my buy 2 different medications. My new vet told me that I only needed 1 of those. That one extra medication cost me $60 extra!

I am just going to call and tell her that I would feel more comfortable getting the shots and then waiting a little while longer to get her spayed. I know she will understand. She is very kind. I like her.