my vet said NO CESARS!!!!!

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Athina

I give both my Yorkies 1 wet container of Lil Ceasar's to split every day and then i leave a full bowl of Royal Canin down for them to pick at throughout the day. They have never had a problem and they love it. My vet said that that's a great diet for them so i'm stickin to it.

I feed my two dogs exactly like you do except I give them Chicken Soup hard and my vet says that is fine. The caesars tins are small and splittin one tin between two dogs they arent getting a huge amount of caesars. My vet just doesnt want them to eat moist food as a primary source because of their teeth.

[My Maddie Girl]

i was giving Maddie 1/4 container each feeding and then just dry at night. But today we did just dry Eukanuba and she was fine with that!

[RowdysMom]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

Royal Canin for Yorkies is allegedly formulated by nutritionists but I don't think they know Yorkies either. The protein level is way to high even for puppies. That is very hard on the kidneys/liver as high protein is hard to digest and the waste products in the form of ammonias from the break down of amino acids is hard on kidney/liver. Again, you may not see a problem right away but with time you likely will.
People on high protein fad diets are warned or should be, to drink a lot of water. the reason is to reduce the concentration of the toxins of the byproducts of digestion and flush them more efficiently.

OK, I have a question, about Innova Evo dry. I know this thread is about Caesars, but I'd like to ask my question and see if Lorraine (or anyone else) has an opinion about the protein content of Innova Evo.

Innova Evo has a protein content of 42% and 22% fat. I bought a bag of Innova Evo and gave a small amount to Rowdy and he got very sick. I had noted the protein content was very high, but the food was highly recommended by the natural food pet store and it is highly recommended here too, so I thought it would be OK. Anyway, I did not feed him anymore but have since wondered about that high protein content. If anyone with more knowledge on this would respond, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

[edouble96]

Cesar's is all by products. There is not one wholesome nutrient in it. Read the label. I have posted about this before and truly believe that we should only be feeding healthy, natural food. I understand that our yorkies all love it, but it is not a food that they should even be allowed to sell! Please read up on by products if you have not already. I promise that you won't feed it to your babies. I feed Innova or Canidae and it is a huge hit.

[Athina]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

I am afraid your Vet doesn't know too much about Yorkie diets. On my puppy info sheets I give to people who got a puppy from me, I warn them about Caesar's and Royal Canin. I agree with the other post where the other Vets say no Caesar's. In my opinion, if you don't have problems now, you will with time. That's one of the problems when you may be feeding the wrong food, it can take a while before trouble hits and then it can hit big time when it does.
Royal Canin for Yorkies is allegedly formulated by nutritionists but I don't think they know Yorkies either. The protein level is way to high even for puppies. That is very hard on the kidneys/liver as high protein is hard to digest and the waste products in the form of ammonias from the break down of amino acids is hard on kidney/liver. Again, you may not see a problem right away but with time you likely will.
People on high protein fad diets are warned or should be, to drink a lot of water. the reason is to reduce the concentration of the toxins of the byproducts of digestion and flush them more efficiently.

My vet specializes in small animals and is the #1 vet in Toronto, AND has a Yorkie of his own so i'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about. My one Yorkie is not a puppy and my other one is 5 months and they are in great health and Enjoy their meals. My best friend owns a 12 year old Yorkie who is on the exact same diet as mine and has had no problems what so ever and her teeth look good for her age. That is why i started my girls on this diet and will keep them on it. I have done research on a lot of top of the line food brands and decided on these two for a reason. Royal Canin also has a food Specialized for Yorkies and puppies.
Have you seen first hand a Yorkie in poor condition due to a Royal Canin and Lil Ceasar diet? and i don't appreciate you telling me that my Yorkie's will have problems in the future due to their diet of Royal Canin and Lil Ceasar's because i think it's a load of BS and a lot of people on YT feed their Yorkie's the same diet I do and probably don't appreciate your misinformation.

[Athina]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

So, do you give them both a fourth in the morning and the other fourth in the evening? I am afraid of overfeeding my two. One is a puppy and the other an adult.

That's the same as my two. One's an adult and one's a puppy. I split Lil Ceasar's in the morning and give each half and they both eat it up. I leave Royal Canin down all day and because they both eat out of the same bowl i put adult Royal Canin in and mix the puppy Royal Canin with the adult but i always put more puppy than adult in.
When Bella hits a year old i'll just have adult Royal Canin and stop buying the puppy one. But i've never had a problem with them eating because they have always loved their diet.

[YorkiesX2]

I also feed both my dogs royal canine adult. The manager at the pet store told me about it... Lorraine what do you feed your dogs?

[StewiesMom]

Originally Posted by Athina

Have you seen first hand a Yorkie in poor condition due to a Royal Canin and Lil Ceasar diet?

I can truthfully answer "YES!!!!!!!" to this question. Rotten teeth, overweight, runny stools, chronic ear infections, tear stains, the WORKS. 4 year old littermates with teeth extractions ALREADY!

The ingredients in Ceasars are atrocious. It's not "misinformation". It's fact. Check out the label.

[mylittletigger]

Originally Posted by edouble96

Cesar's is all by products. There is not one wholesome nutrient in it. Read the label. I have posted about this before and truly believe that we should only be feeding healthy, natural food. I understand that our yorkies all love it, but it is not a food that they should even be allowed to sell! Please read up on by products if you have not already. I promise that you won't feed it to your babies. I feed Innova or Canidae and it is a huge hit.

OH MY GOSH, I totally agree. I hate ceasers and think it's a shame people actually feed it to their dogs. The ingrediants are horrible!!! I feel bad for the dogs who actually eat it. If only they knew what they were eating, they'd probably yell at us for giving it to them.

[mylittletigger]

Originally Posted by StewiesMom

I can truthfully answer "YES!!!!!!!" to this question. Rotten teeth, overweight, runny stools, chronic ear infections, tear stains, the WORKS. 4 year old littermates with teeth extractions ALREADY!

The ingredients in Ceasars are atrocious. It's not "misinformation". It's fact. Check out the label.

Do you know for a fact that it's due strictly to the feeding of royal canin? or are you just making a generalization about the combo of royal canin with lil ceasers?

Did you stop to think that maybe it could be strictly due to the lil ceasers?

My dog loves royal canin!!! Had him on Nutro Ultra, then Nutro Lamb and Rice puppy. I thought it was drying out his skin, so I stopped feeding him treats with lots of sugar, and changed him over to Royal Canin Puppy 33. Since then His skin is a lot better, and his coat is shinier. And for wet food, I feed him Nutro Max Puppy.

[StewiesMom]

Royal Canin is WAAAY better than Ceasars!! but it still has too much protein for Yorkie bodies and too much fat!! this of course, is only my opinion based on the research I've done.
It could be due to the Ceasar's only, but that's the only food I'm really talking about here. I'm sure a diff wet food w/ RC would be a much better alternative. I think people only buy Ceasar's because it's easily accessed at grocery stores and it's cheap.

[mylittletigger]

I couldn't agree with you more, on the whole grocery store thing. I just wish people were more educated on dog foods and by-products. if they were we'd all have a lot healthier dogs.

[My Maddie Girl]

Originally Posted by mylittletigger

I couldn't agree with you more, on the whole grocery store thing. I just wish people were more educated on dog foods and by-products. if they were we'd all have a lot healthier dogs.

I only bought it because the people we got her from said to giver her Eukanuba dry - 2o pellets 3-4 times a day and 1 1/4 of Cesars 3-4 times a day. I thought i was doing good by keeping her on this same diet and not changing it. But I asked the vet yesterday and when she said "McDonalds" I almost died- because i am NOT a fast food person. Buti do aggree, i found it pretty convenient that i could buy it at the grocery store- one stop shopping!

But she has been doing great as of yesterday just on Eukanuba dry. And we give her peices of treats too.



Anyone else only give dry??

[envrobear]

I only give dry to moose with an occasional (holidays and birthdays) Merick wingaling or pot pie. I want her to have better teeth than lil bear has.

I'm not thrilled with lil bear eating half a ceaser's for dinner but it is the only thing she will eat along with her dry food. Which concerns me too. I am looking to change over moose to another dry food and I looked at lil bears since it is prescription RC Renal LP (needs the very low protein for her liver shunt) and I was not at all happy with the ingredient list but can't find a good low protein food. I was looking at Canadie(sp) Platnium(sp) for moose since it has 18.5% protein cause I am worried that 24% might be too much and I want something with glucosime and condritin in it which the regular canadie does not contain but I can't switch lil bear to that cause the protein is too high. What is considered too high protein for a yorkie?

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by Athina

That's the same as my two. One's an adult and one's a puppy. I split Lil Ceasar's in the morning and give each half and they both eat it up. I leave Royal Canin down all day and because they both eat out of the same bowl i put adult Royal Canin in and mix the puppy Royal Canin with the adult but i always put more puppy than adult in.
When Bella hits a year old i'll just have adult Royal Canin and stop buying the puppy one. But i've never had a problem with them eating because they have always loved their diet.

My puppy is a very slow eter. The adult gobbles her food. the puppy has tried to eat from the same bowl but there is no food left for him. So, they have separate dishes and I make sure he gets his portion. So, is a half tin once a day what they eat 9besides the dry)