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Old 06-22-2012, 01:50 PM   #1
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Taycie has her yearly vet appointment coming up in 2 weeks. I recently received a postcard in the vet telling me she is due for her Distemper/Parvo Vaccine and I am kind of confused.

Taycie turned 2 in March and I thought after her 1 year boosters she was done for the next 3 years as far as core vaccines go. The hospital we go to is AAHA accredited so I thought this was also what they recommended. I am also wondering if this is a mixup in the computer or maybe I understood wrong? I just don't know how I feel about doing this again.

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After the last year puppy shots, it can go to 3 years. You would have to ask your vet, sometimes they may recommend boosters if there are increased numbers of those illnesses evident in your area (in which case a booster won't increase the immunity your dog already has). Or yes, computers do make mistakes... IMHO, I wouldn't change your plan....
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After the last year puppy shots, it can go to 3 years. You would have to ask your vet, sometimes they may recommend boosters if there are increased numbers of those illnesses evident in your area (in which case a booster won't increase the immunity your dog already has). Or yes, computers do make mistakes... IMHO, I wouldn't change your plan....

I will talk to my vet when I go in for the appt. I really don't feel comfortable doing another round of shots.
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Ok I am going over her paperwork from last years vet visit and she received DA2PP 1 year vaccine. It does not say 3 years. Now I am worried she is going to make me do it.... Her Rabies certificate says 3 years.

I wish I would have caught this sooner..
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Ok I am going over her paperwork from last years vet visit and she received DA2PP 1 year vaccine. It does not say 3 years. Now I am worried she is going to make me do it.... Her Rabies certificate says 3 years.

I wish I would have caught this sooner..
I might ask them why it says 1 year on your paper work. I would guess they put that there because the label on the bottle says this.Veterinarians use unproven vaccine product label revaccination recommendations to try and
justify over-vaccination with core MLV vaccines. But these revaccination recommendations are arbitrary and have no scientific basis.

In 2003, the AAHA Canine Vaccine Task force compromised on a move from annual revaccination to revaccination every three years with vaccines for parvovirus, distemper virus and adenovirus. In 2006, the AAHA Canine Vaccine Task Force revised its revaccination recommendation to every three years or longer.

In the 2006 AAHA Canine Vaccine Guidelines, Revised, this recommendation changes slightly to “…revaccination is recommended at intervals of every 3 years or longer.”
The recommendations of the more recent 2006 AAHA and WSAVA guidelines do not actually recommend revaccination with MLV core vaccines every three years.

Dr Schultz has studies that demonstrate DOI for 7 years on core vaccines.
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The paper saying one year should not matter.
You are right.
However, some AAHA hospitals still do them yearly. Not all AAHA hospitals are good. Not all care about their guidelines unless it keeps them from getting certified.
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And I really question the labeling of vaccines being 1 year or 3 years. Technically there is no difference in the contents, and the amount is enough to vaccinate a 100 lb dog, anyway. So smaller dogs are always being overvaccinated no matter how one looks at it.
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And I really question the labeling of vaccines being 1 year or 3 years. Technically there is no difference in the contents, and the amount is enough to vaccinate a 100 lb dog, anyway. So smaller dogs are always being overvaccinated no matter how one looks at it.


There is NO difference between a "1 year" and a "3 year" shot. It's the SAME thing. A dog is not any more or less protected getting one over the other. It's just wording really.

Don't do it. You have to stand up for your pup! There is so much research and science out there to prove how our pets are being so highly over-vaccinated.

Even 3 years, IMO, is way too much. Legally (in majority of places) there is no "requirement" for any vaccines except for rabies (which is every 3 years in most places). In other words, you can't get your dog taken away for not being up-to-date on DHPP, or whatever. Most daycares around here I have noticed will accept titers these days too.

I'm personally following Dr. Dodd's vaccine protocol. After the one year boosters, no more vaccines except rabies every 3 years due to the law. I will most likely titer Jackson later this year to see how much adequate response he still has to the vaccines he received in the past... but there is no reason to believe that vaccinations do not last for the life of the dog.

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The present study examines the DOI for core viral vaccines in dogs that had not been revaccinated for as long as 9 years. These animals had serum antibody to canine distemper virus (CDV), canine parvovirus type 2 (CPV-2) and canine adenovirus type-1 (CAV-1) at levels considered protective and when challenged with these viruses, the dogs resisted infection and/or disease. Thus, even a single dose of modified live virus (MLV) canine core vaccines (against CDV, cav-2 and cpv-2) or MLV feline core vaccines (against feline parvovirus [FPV], feline calicivirus [FCV] and feline herpesvirus [FHV]), when administered at 16 weeks or older, could provide long-term immunity in a very high percentage of animals, while also increasing herd immunity.
Age and long-term protective immunity in dogs ... [J Comp Pathol. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI

Another good read: Science of Vaccine Damage
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My dogs had puppy shots and then a booster one year later which is good for 3 years. I've gotten wrong postcards and when I called the records were accurate but just spitting out postcards incorrectly.
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Ok I am going over her paperwork from last years vet visit and she received DA2PP 1 year vaccine. It does not say 3 years. Now I am worried she is going to make me do it.... Her Rabies certificate says 3 years.

I wish I would have caught this sooner..
Talking to your vet should clear it up, could be just a mistake on their part. But remember, your vet can't make you do anything you choose not to . So,If you are not comfortable giving her another booster (personally, I would pass as I don't believe in overvaccination, jmo) then just tell them no vaccine.
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My dogs had puppy shots and then a booster one year later which is good for 3 years. I've gotten wrong postcards and when I called the records were accurate but just spitting out postcards incorrectly.
I'm kind of thinking this is what happened
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Talking to your vet should clear it up, could be just a mistake on their part. But remember, your vet can't make you do anything you choose not to . So,If you are not comfortable giving her another booster (personally, I would pass as I don't believe in overvaccination, jmo) then just tell them no vaccine.
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And I really question the labeling of vaccines being 1 year or 3 years. Technically there is no difference in the contents, and the amount is enough to vaccinate a 100 lb dog, anyway. So smaller dogs are always being overvaccinated no matter how one looks at it.
AGREE WITH ABOVE!!!
I would just tell my vet I would rather go by the AAHA recommendation for core vaccines, every 3 years....and quite possibly, at the end of 3 years, the AAHA may be recommending 5 years or longer....random studies have shown these vaccnes provide 7years or longer....there have been some studies that have shown they provide protection for "the lifetime of the dog". If you get flack from the vet, which you might because over 50% of their income is based on vaccinations and many are reluctant to let go of annual vaccinations, have them check titers....if the dogs is showing titers are good, then you have just proven your point, and there is no need to revaccinate at that time. And YES!!! they give the SAME vaccine, SAME amount, to a 4# dog that they give that Great Dane out in the waiting room!!!

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Does anyone have a link to AAHA vaccine reccomendations? I would like to print it off and take it with me to her appointment
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I would just tell my vet I would rather go by the AAHA recommendation for core vaccines, every 3 years....and quite possibly, at the end of 3 years, the AAHA may be recommending 5 years or longer....random studies have shown these vaccnes provide 7years or longer....there have been some studies that have shown they provide protection for "the lifetime of the dog". If you get flack from the vet, which you might because over 50% of their income is based on vaccinations and many are reluctant to let go of annual vaccinations, have them check titers....if the dogs is showing titers are good, then you have just proven your point, and there is no need to revaccinate at that time. And YES!!! they give the SAME vaccine, SAME amount, to a 4# dog that they give that Great Dane out in the waiting room!!!
The AAHA is sponsored by four vaccine manufacturers: Merck, Merial, Pfizer and Boehringer Ingelheim. Furthermore, the veterinary members of the task force certainly have a vested financial interest in how often vaccines can be delivered. AAHA is very conservative group; they've made great strides in bringing change, but many activists feel they haven't gone far enough because they're trying not to anger the veterinary establishment even more than they have.

In 2011, the AAHA updated their Canine Vaccination Guidelines once more. Here is the progression of the recommendations, ending with the 2011 recommendation:

2003: “revaccination every 3 years is considered protective”

2006: “revaccination every 3 years or more is considered protective”

2011: “every 3 years or more” with the following comment: “Among healthy dogs, all commercially available [core] vaccines are expected to induce a sustained protective immune response lasting at least 5 yr. thereafter”

These early recommendations prompted the AAHA to assemble a task force. In 2003, the American Animal Hospital Association Canine Vaccine Task Force evaluated the data from these challenge and serological studies and, while noting that the core vaccines had a minimum duration of immunity of at least seven years, compromised in 2003 with the statement that “revaccination every 3 years is considered protective.”

Task force member Dr. Richard Ford, Professor of Medicine, North Carolina State University, said that the decision to recommend a 3 year revaccination schedule for core vaccines was a compromise. “It’s completely arbitrary…,” he said. “I will say there is no science behind the three-year recommendation…”

https://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocume...Guidelines.pdf


I find this shameful.....The veterinary profession stands to lose much of it's credibility by ignoring these studies for their own personal gain.

As a side note, there's two titer testing kits available to vets for quick in office testing...Canine VacciCheck the vet can order this kit that contains 12 test kits for $240.00. This would be $20 for each kit, it takes 20 minutes to run the test.There's also the TiterCHEK' CDV/CPV, don't have any info on cost of this one.
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