Flies and Fly Larvae

[mypreciouspups]

Originally Posted by kjc

Never any dumb questions! Actually I can't answer this... it all depends on when the flies lay their eggs, and if they all come off in the bath (it only takes one), and how long it takes from the time the eggs are laid till the larvae reach the dog's skin.

BTW: I live right beyond the city limits, maybe 5 or 10 minutes out.

Thank you and wow.. it is all so amazing to me, having yorkies for over 20 years and never hearing this before.. I am outside in the city with my guys a lot.. and my hubby loves to sit on the deck.. so the dogs then can just run in and out.. But I have never seen many flies near them.. But when we go camping at my cousins camp in the summer in the States what separates his property from the farmers is a bay that goes into the St. Lawarence River.. and that is the only time I see many flies.. My cousin not having dogs tried to tell me the dogs brought on the flies.. I laughed at him and said I can tell you did not grow up on a farm like I did.. cow poop brings the flies.. So now I will be more vigilent when there.. I hate the heat so I am mostly inside the rv with the air on.. I only go so I can shop shop... LOL

[sugarmamma]

Originally Posted by 107barney

YIKES! Can you call an exterminator to bomb the bastards? My dogs spend most of their time inside and it seems from your earlier post this affects dogs kept outside....I didn't think many yorkie owners kept their dogs outside, I would never allow a yorkie to be outside unattended and this is another good reason...who needs maggots in bed! I'm going to puke thinking about it!!

My schnauzer was only outside to potty ~ and he managed to get a bot fly once! It has nothing to do with cleanliness either. My vet said usually cats are affected by my dog was just lucky I guess

[kjc]

Originally Posted by 107barney

YIKES! Can you call an exterminator to bomb the bastards? My dogs spend most of their time inside and it seems from your earlier post this affects dogs kept outside....I didn't think many yorkie owners kept their dogs outside, I would never allow a yorkie to be outside unattended and this is another good reason...who needs maggots in bed! I'm going to puke thinking about it!!

As I live on the water, I am restricted as to what I can use in my yard when it comes to pesticides and fertilizers, as it will eventually find it's way to the Cheaspeake Bay. My dogs are out only 2-3 hours on days I am out working in the yard. The yard is small, and I do check on the dogs frequently as I work, if they not right underfoot. I'll be making bug-suits for them shortly...

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I just cannot imagine this happening! How long was your Peek A Boo sleeping outside that she was covering in flies? Fleas lay eggs, eggs hatch and turn into maggots! Ewww~I'm totally grossed out!

He had only been out about an hour that day. The flies lay the eggs on the dog, then the eggs hatch from the heat off the dog's body, and the larvae crawl up the hair till they reach the dog's skin, where they burrow in, and feed and grow. Once I discovered the eggs, I had brought him in and removed as many fly eggs as I could with a flea comb, and then gave him a good bath. I guess I missed one, as that is all it takes.

Since starting this thread, the rabbit population around here has never been as great as it was that year, and I haven't noticed those flies, but I do keep an eye out for them each spring and summer.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups

Thank you and wow.. it is all so amazing to me, having yorkies for over 20 years and never hearing this before.. I am outside in the city with my guys a lot.. and my hubby loves to sit on the deck.. so the dogs then can just run in and out.. But I have never seen many flies near them.. But when we go camping at my cousins camp in the summer in the States what separates his property from the farmers is a bay that goes into the St. Lawarence River.. and that is the only time I see many flies.. My cousin not having dogs tried to tell me the dogs brought on the flies.. I laughed at him and said I can tell you did not grow up on a farm like I did.. cow poop brings the flies.. So now I will be more vigilent when there.. I hate the heat so I am mostly inside the rv with the air on.. I only go so I can shop shop... LOL

Exactly, most flies lay their eggs in poop. These Cuterebra normally seek out rabbits and mice. My GSD was laying right next to my Yorkie, but she had not one fly on her, so it was a case of mistaken identity, as Peek is the size of a small rabbit.

Haha! Yeah, AC and shopping.... that would be me too!

Originally Posted by sugarmamma

My schnauzer was only outside to potty ~ and he managed to get a bot fly once! It has nothing to do with cleanliness either. My vet said usually cats are affected by my dog was just lucky I guess

Again, I think it's more the size of the host that the flies seek out, but on that TV show 'Monsters Inside Me' there was a person with one on the back of his neck...

[megansmomma]

Now I am confused. I was told by my vet that bunnies carry FLEAS not flies. We also have a large rabbit population in my area and I changed my heartworm prevention to Sentinel to help fleas that the rabbit might carry. Do you not use a HW preventative?

As for the water supply, I don't understand how you are saying that using a pesticide would contaminate the Chesapeake Bay. The amount of pesticide that you would need to use comparatively to contamination of such a large body of water would be an eye dropper. Furthermore, there are many private wells in my area and I have spoken with the health department numerous times regarding mosquito control. They use both a brick insecticide as well as fogging to combat mosquitoes and West Nile virus and it was never even mentioned as a cross contamination issue. Additionally, the soil acts as a filter of contaminates. As the water leaches through the soil the pesticide dissipates and is further broken down. A pesticide would need to be carried through the ground and into the water table, then it would been to be carried into the bay. Unless you were dumping truck loads of the stuff directily into the bay I cannot imagine this ever being an issue. In Chicago, we have a mosquito abatement program that sprays all along Lake Michigan as well as retention ponds all over suburban Chicago. Lake Michigan is the water supply of millions of people in the Chicago area and surrounding suburbs. I've never heard this being even a slight concern to cross contamination. Personally, I would be straying my yard to prevent this from happening ever again.

[107barney]

Did Peek A Boo have diarrhea or an infection when he had the maggots? I've been reading about fly strike since you posted this and it seems that flies of any kind are only attracted to dogs that are unkempt (e.g. matted) or who have some sort of ailment. What is Fly Strike, also known as Myiasis?

[sugarmamma]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Did Peek A Boo have diarrhea or an infection when he had the maggots? I've been reading about fly strike since you posted this and it seems that flies of any kind are only attracted to dogs that are unkempt (e.g. matted) or who have some sort of ailment. What is Fly Strike, also known as Myiasis?

Well if that is the case then my schnauzer must have been an anomaly. I know for a fact my family didn't have a dirty matted unkempt dog!
and he was never covered in flies. His symptoms appeared after staying with the neighbor and her 3 dogs while we were on vacation.

My vet said it was the first case she had seen in a dog...(she had seen it in cats I believe).but maybe I'm remembering it wrong. It was 25+ years ago

[ladyjane]

fly strike info:

Fly Strike On Dogs

Fly Strike - Page 1

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by sugarmamma

Well if that is the case then my schnauzer must have been an anomaly. I know for a fact my family didn't have a dirty matted unkempt dog!
and he was never covered in flies. His symptoms appeared after staying with the neighbor and her 3 dogs while we were on vacation.

My vet said it was the first case she had seen in a dog...(she had seen it in cats I believe).but maybe I'm remembering it wrong. It was 25+ years ago

Maybe the neighbor left the dog out for long periods....you really don't know what went on if you were on vacation.

[Princess10]

This stuff is so dang creepy!

This is a little off-topic, but I wanted to share.

I watched an episode once of "Monsters Inside Me" and a fly flew into a teen boy's eye. A few weeks later he could barely see & had other symptoms-they found a dang maggot in there! They said the fly freaked out from the trauma of the collision & dropped the egg.

[sugarmamma]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Maybe the neighbor left the dog out for long periods....you really don't know what went on if you were on vacation.

That is true but I would never leave my dog with someone I didn't know and trust extremely well! But with that said, I was not there. It's been a LONG time....but during that period we never traveled for more than a weekend because of work schedules. Either way, all I know is that I trusted the person he was left with. And still do. We are still friends today!

[sugarmamma]

Originally Posted by Princess10

This stuff is so dang creepy!

This is a little off-topic, but I wanted to share.

I watched an episode once of "Monsters Inside Me" and a fly flew into a teen boy's eye. A few weeks later he could barely see & had other symptoms-they found a dang maggot in there! They said the fly freaked out from the trauma of the collision & dropped the egg.

So I guess he wasn't matted and dirty and left outside for long periods of time??

[Princess10]

Originally Posted by sugarmamma

So I guess he wasn't matted and dirty and left outside for long periods of time??

I can't verify that as an actor did the reenactment.

[sugarmamma]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

fly strike info:

Fly Strike On Dogs

Fly Strike - Page 1

This had nothing at all to do with the ears on my schnauzer. It was on his side.

[sugarmamma]

Botfly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This is what I am finding. It can also effect humans