Over vaccinating

[mitchell]

I have to say, I don't titre test because I don't vaccinated PERIOD!
I allow Bailey to do what he likes and go where he likes...I don't wrap him up in cotton wool because he's not vaccinated...he gets dirty and enjoys his doggie life...
I don't lose sleep over it either...after Max was put to sleep I vowed to do things differently and have done so, against my vets "better" judgement but I don't care and I will not be dictated to...Bailey will take his chances in life, like we humans do...humans get vaccinated as children and that's it...who ever heard of vaccinating children every year...fooey!

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

I agree...and do the same thing. What many people do not understand is the amount of dead animals that go into our petfood that have also been over vaccinating so besides the shots they are also eating this garbage...

yep and Merrick food the owner is always lobbying to put rendering parts in dog food and he has a rendering plant right next door so i think he has easy access and is already doing it - a yorkie on one of my groups had a huge tumor in his stomach the size of a softball that was cancer and she fed merrick his whole life -hmmmmm coincidence???

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by mitchell

If you're unsure of anything please email Catherine O'Driscoll...she's always happy to pass on info and advice EMAIL: Catherine@carsegray.co.uk OR her husband Rob..EMAIL: rob@carsegray.co.uk

Please also be aware that vets sometimes vaccinate without you knowing...think it was on this forum or another dog forum that I read a thread from someone that took her dog into her vets for something unrelated to vaccinations and it had to stay the day with them...on collecting the dog they noticed that the dog had been vaccinated without her consent and they were billed for it ...not saying all vets are like this but if they are losing out on vaccinations, they may try anything to get some extra cash...beware!

whoa i would freak out but that is always a worry i have

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by mitchell

I have to say, I don't titre test because I don't vaccinated PERIOD!
I allow Bailey to do what he likes and go where he likes...I don't wrap him up in cotton wool because he's not vaccinated...he gets dirty and enjoys his doggie life...
I don't lose sleep over it either...after Max was put to sleep I vowed to do things differently and have done so, against my vets "better" judgement but I don't care and I will not be dictated to...Bailey will take his chances in life, like we humans do...humans get vaccinated as children and that's it...who ever heard of vaccinating children every year...fooey!

lol that is my argument too - why are we not vaccinated every year ???

[mitchell]

Bailey gets fed on Burns Chicken and Rice with Burns Kelties as treats...never had any diet related problems with him...no skin problems etc...really makes you think...vets make a mint through prescribing Hills veterinary diet that contains animal derivatives...see link Glossary of Ingredients

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by mitchell

Bailey gets fed on Burns Chicken and Rice with Burns Kelties as treats...never had any diet related problems with him...no skin problems etc...really makes you think...vets make a mint through prescribing Hills veterinary diet that contains animal derivatives...see link Glossary of Ingredients

lol well i have to say almost lost my dog to pancreatitis and after 10k and trying different foods we were at our last stop with a hydrolized soy diet with him before steroids for ibd and the purina ha food worked and has for 4 years no more relapse so as much as i hate it he will live on that for LIFE lol - after that much money i am sticking to what works for him

[jp4m2]

Originally Posted by mitchell

I have to say, I don't titre test because I don't vaccinated PERIOD!
I allow Bailey to do what he likes and go where he likes...I don't wrap him up in cotton wool because he's not vaccinated...he gets dirty and enjoys his doggie life...
I don't lose sleep over it either...after Max was put to sleep I vowed to do things differently and have done so, against my vets "better" judgement but I don't care and I will not be dictated to...Bailey will take his chances in life, like we humans do...humans get vaccinated as children and that's it...who ever heard of vaccinating children every year...fooey!

There are a lot of people doing the same thing in regards to not vaccinating at all....They call it "natural rearing".....They tried the recommended vaccine way and all they got was sickly pets so now they let their natural immunity take care of the viruses and bacteria , just like nature intended......

[LilMissy]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

All of my dogs were vaccinated their first year, I have one now that has just turned 4 and I'm wondering if I should revaccinate or not. They are never in contact with other dogs so I really don't believe it is necessary.

I wouldn't revaccinate if I were you. Missy just had her 1 year booster and reacted terribly to it. She will not be getting any more vaccines and I'm debating even getting Dora her 1 year booster when it comes time. I may just take the chances with her only having her puppy boosters done. And, NO RABIES for either of my girls. It isn't the law in my area, and I am so grateful for that.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by mitchell

My first Yorkie Max was vaccinated every year without fail and he had ill health all of his life eventually dying from a brain tumor..after Max was put to sleep I came across Catherine O'Driscolls website Canine Health Concern decided my next dog would only have his puppy vaccinations and no more after that...Bailey is now 3 years of age and has not had yearly vaccinations much to my vets dismay but I won't be swayed on my opinion this time around...having seen what my first dog went through...collitis, anal glad problems, itchy skin, bloated stomach...you name it he suffered from something and was always at the vets...was put on to special vet food which didn't do anything but made the vet very rich...lots of people now titre test before they even consider vaccinating..google titre test and you will get more of an understanding...also read this site Spangler...we also no longer worm unless it's necessary and we don't put flea treatments unless he has fleas...why put unnecessary poisons into your dogs system if it's not needed...Yorkies are small dogs...Bailey has never needed worming or flea treatments.

I agree with the flea treatments also. I have gone for several years and have not had to treat for fleas. And when I do treat, I treat them once, not repeatedly unless a second tretment is warranted.

[MI Yorkielover]

Originally Posted by LilMissy

NO RABIES for either of my girls. It isn't the law in my area, and I am so grateful for that.

Sadly it is the law here in Michigan. The only alternative would be not to license Sophie and take the chances of being busted and fined. We don't board Sophie but boarding would be another reason one in Michigan would have to document a pup's rabies shot.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by dwerten

yeah another friend has had dogs for years - she does the puppy shots and one rabies shot and she said her dogs are all very healthy live for 14 years plus so she does not buy into all this after seeing this for years

The problem is, as the letter stated, that the government needs to change the laws concerning vacinations because until they do it, the vets will continue to push them every year. Some vets will not trat a dog that is not UTD on shots..

By law you have to get a rabies vaccination every year, in order to comply with the licensing laws. In many areas, they do not even take into account that the rabies vacination is good for 3 years. It does not matter, you still have to get them every year. If you take your dog to day care or board them, they have to have recent vacinations.

So the change is going to have to start with the laws, and it will take heavy pressure from the breed clubs and the AKC to get the laws changed.

Humans do not require boosters every year, why should dogs.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by dwerten

lol well i have to say almost lost my dog to pancreatitis and after 10k and trying different foods we were at our last stop with a hydrolized soy diet with him before steroids for ibd and the purina ha food worked and has for 4 years no more relapse so as much as i hate it he will live on that for LIFE lol - after that much money i am sticking to what works for him

There have been a lot of dogs live long healthy lives on good old Purina dog Chow.

[MI Yorkielover]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

There have been a lot of dogs live long healthy lives on good old Purina dog Chow.

True...our yorkie "Baby" lived to be over 16 years on Purina Lamb & Rice and then Senior. But after all I've read here I ended up giving our Sophie Wellness believing it has better ingredients.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

Every time I see or hear someone say they trust their vet and in the next breath they are going in for their "annual vaccines" it just disturbs me so.......I've even seen people worming their pups every week for months at a time without even testing to see if it's needed....It's no wonder almost 50% of our pets will die of cancer, and the epidemic problems of liver, kidney problems , hypothyroidism, and diabetes. They are swimming in a toxic soup of chemicals, all coming from vaccines, flea and heatworm products, and bad food.....It's funny that we all run to the vets getting all these vaccines for diseases that they have very little probability of contracting yet our animals are getting sicker and sicker.......Shameful...

The computer is right in front of them, all the info is there right at their fingertips, just take some time to look........

I agree!

And thank you JeanieK and livingdustmops for those two great links of info!

[lmperez]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

All of my dogs were vaccinated their first year, I have one now that has just turned 4 and I'm wondering if I should revaccinate or not. They are never in contact with other dogs so I really don't believe it is necessary.

You can pull a titer on them to see if they are still immuned. My guess is they probably are. I have a whippet that has only had his puppy shots and had a titer drawn last year and he was still showing immunity and he was 4. Most vets will do them. They cost more then a vaccine because most have to send the bloodwork out. I am lucky I live near Dr. Dodds so I go directly to her facitity and have her staff pull the blood and get results the next day.