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01-14-2010, 12:55 PM | #61 | |
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which is an antibiotic in same family as simplicef my dog might have gone into an anaphylactic shock Anaphylaxis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia so had i not reminded him of this my dog could have been very sick and he said oh wow i forgot about that and good thing you said no to the shot as this could have made dee dee very sick - uh yeah oh and he has a phd from ucdavis so more education than most vets so sorry I believe in knowing your dog, trust your gut, educate yourself, consult vet and do what you feel is best for your dog oh and let's not forget the other vet who has been practicing for years gave my dog metacam while on steroids on an empty stomach and she was sick for months vomitting and diarhea as you never mix nsaids with steroids nor on empty stomach and i asked for tramadol as you can mix steroids and tramadol as she hurt her leg -so i was right and i had to take her to internal medicine specialist as she was so sick and ims said what was he thinking ???? uh he wasn't and i knew better and trusted the PROFESSIONAL. oh and my friends dog a yorkie the dermatologist mixed ketoconazole with ivermectin for demodex and her dog ended up in a coma and almost died as you NEVER mix those drugs something i learned on the internet as was trying to help her figure out what happened as ketoconazole breaks the blood barrier wall allowing ivermectin to go to brain and cause seizures and coma in dogs as the ivermectin kills the mite by going to brain as they have a weaker blood barrier wall than dogs Please do your homework I use to be much more trusting but vets are human they can make mistakes and you and your dog may pay the price - you should work as a team with them Last edited by dwerten; 01-14-2010 at 12:57 PM. | |
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but had i followed vets advice my poor dog would have had radioactive dye put in her for no reason as she had no symptoms of mvd or liver shunt just skin allergies and with numbers below 100 no high alt and no symptoms I would not put my dog through scintigraphy so i trusted my gut and glad i did as she has 3 years later had no symptoms just put her on low protein diet - NOW HAD she had symptoms and over 100 I would have done scintigraphy and flown her to ut for surgery with dr tobias no questions asked as i will always get my dogs to the best Last edited by dwerten; 01-14-2010 at 01:05 PM. | |
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| Ahhh.... Those number are in Liver Shunt territory. Have you seen a specialist yet? |
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| yes that is over 100 since dr broome is near you in Tustin I would save up for scintigraphy which is appx $390 as i would confirm the shunt before flying or driving to ut but i would NOT get the liver shunt surgery done by anyone but Tobias --i think i posted this for you already but her is dr broome link he is the only one in so cal i believe that does the scintigraphy Portal Scintigraphy in Veterinary Medicine AVMI- Directions |
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| I want to add.. I do belong to a couple of yahoo groups and I've always said an owner knows their dog best especially if you have had animals for a long time. BUT you still have to have an open communication with your vet and if you don't then you go find one that is open and will work with you the animal owner. We as animal owners do have access to reading materials online but we do not have the education or medical license to give medical advice online as that is when we can set ourselves up and open up for a lawsuit. We can give opinions but I see so many give medical advice when it's been the wrong advice so that is why I always say seek a Vet's opinion before you set out online to do your search. With Bile Acid Tests I really think that Dr. Sharon Center and Dr. Karen Tobias is totally up to date with medical protocal with this disease. Now if my vet would tell me something else to do then I might question it and seek further or dig deeper because he's not up to date with the latest findings on LS but he is knowledegable on the disease as I was kinda shocked when we were discussing things and he himself mentioned the Protein C test and many vets have NO clue what that is! Donna |
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You are speaking in generalities based on situations that have happened to you. The subject of this thread is Liver Shunt. Nothing to mess with and still recommend taking Dr. Tobias and Dr Centers methods over recommendations of a lay person on YT. Again, recommendations are great, but giving advise as to what one should or shouldn't do over what has been advised and recommended by Specialists and Experts in the field.....mmmmmm. That is unless one is willing to take the responsibility of someone's dog dying because of said recommendation.
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Traditional methods for diagnosing porto-systemic shunts and hepatic microvascular disease have included radiographs, ultrasound and scintigraphy. The tests often have been used in combination to obtain an accurate picture of the extent of the problem before treatment options can be obtained. His hope is that CE-MRA will afford a better diagnostic option for canine liver patients.
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