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01-02-2010, 02:28 AM | #31 |
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| Does anyone recommend a clinic in Southern California that is great with bile acid tests?????????
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01-02-2010, 11:29 AM | #32 | |
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01-12-2010, 04:30 PM | #33 |
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| Ok Sasha is FINALLY getting her BAT tomorrow at 3:15 pm. I will keep you guys updated when it's done.
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01-13-2010, 04:46 PM | #34 |
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| Sasha went in to get her BAT. Can someone tell me how their vet took blood?? The vet I took Sasha to got blood form her neck
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01-13-2010, 05:02 PM | #35 |
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| that is where they take blood on a dog as it is through the jugular much less stressful than on leg where veins are smaller and they only do leg veins if the dog is too difficult and they cannot get from neck. The prob with doing from leg is the veins can collapse so if you need them for iv then you run into problems - also they get the blood faster from the jugular as it takes alot of time from a leg |
01-13-2010, 05:02 PM | #36 | |
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1. Collect a bile acid sample before a meal (pre-meal) and 2 hours after a normal meal. It is no longer recommended fo fast for 12 hours before first collection or meal. The optimal meal is one of the dogn's regular food. Stuffin the dog, the dob being stressed or frightened can posssibly skew results. The draw can be done one day pre feeding, then the dog can be taken home and fed and another draw done 2 hours post-feeding. 2. Bile Acid TEsting - Criteria for best draw. Also, it's been heard from a number of people that they have a pretty divergent resultsd on multiple draws. What facxtors re most likely to influence this? Dogs should not be stressed prior to draw. Blood should be collected into lithium vacutainers. The blood must be treated gently as rupture of the red blood cels complicates testing. Red color completes with the blue dye color in the assay that measures the concentration of bile acid. Limpic blood (fatty blood) after the meal increases red blood cel fragility. a. Collect blood into syringe using a butterfly set up. b. Remove needle from syringe and remove the top of the vacutainer tube c. Gently put the blood (rolldown side of the glass) into the vacutainer. d. Replace the rubber top on the vacutainer, making sure it seals tightly e. Centrifuge the sample to separate plasma from red blood cells. f. Put plasma in a separate tube before mailing g. DO NOT USE separator tubes as these are inconsistent in their ability to keep red blood cells and plasma ceparate h. Bile Acid cannot be measured in EDTA blood, do not collect into purple top tubes. i. Bolume of blood necessary for bile acid determination: at least 1/2m; (.5ml) of PLASMA, that means 1 to 1.5 ml blood Many things can influence the results. A dog that has been car sick or stressed will test differently.
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01-13-2010, 05:05 PM | #37 |
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| she was pretty happy when I left her, she was excited with all the dogs there!! lol so hopefully her test wont get messed up
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01-13-2010, 05:07 PM | #38 |
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| i doubt it the only thing i have heard that can mess it up is if the gall bladder contracts during the blood draw otherwise i would not be too concerned |
01-13-2010, 05:09 PM | #39 |
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| And of course how the blood is drawn (method).
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01-13-2010, 05:14 PM | #40 |
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01-13-2010, 05:21 PM | #41 |
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| Not so sure.....since she was very specific in her seminar about the importance of the method. Not sure if it was because there had been screw ups or something that was part of her new protocol.
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01-13-2010, 05:28 PM | #42 |
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01-13-2010, 05:33 PM | #43 |
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| yeah i would not be surprised with screw ups lolll that is why i did the 3rd one with jean dodds as she knows how to do blood testing and she analyzes all the blood work for my kids too if done with other vets. Many times vets have freaked me out for no reason like when demi's bun was 39 a little elevated but her creatinine was perfect and they were freaking me out about kidney disease and jean emailed me back and said she is just dehydrated. Personally i think many just trust what lab says and are not that sharp at blood work and how certain things correspond together - |
01-13-2010, 07:25 PM | #44 | |
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Center & Tobias are indeed the pioneers. I agree that it sounds ignorant to say one doctor is better than another. However, it's an area of small concern to most practitioners. There are many that treat it. We'd love some other specialists that are in the same league. | |
01-13-2010, 07:57 PM | #45 |
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| I just want to say what a educating blog this was for me. I am now going to get myself a New Vet. One that can work hand in hand with my Holistic Vet.
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