Eukanuba dog food?

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

I think the issues with the high protein for puppies is that the fat isn't in balance, and from what i've read puppies need a certain amount of fat that perhaps other dogs don't need once they are fully developed. I'd stay away from an adult food for a puppy and stick with a quality puppy food or "all stages" food. Chicken soup is a good food!

I have to agree with ya on the recommendation for Chicken Soup! I WISH mine could eat that because that would be my 1st choice hands down!

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

well i'm pretty sure she was asking about a normal healthy dog.. she didn't mention that her dog had issues... so in that case.. yes.. high protein is just fine. And i did mention if her dog had liver issues that high protein is not necessary but thanks for bringing it up again....

I am sure she has a "normal" baby to but as many read these threads, it is nice to toss out that there are cases when sometimes high protein may not work. As she really does not say and he still young it worth a mention.

As our dogs have been breed along way away from wolves; their little systems are a little different. As dogs with health concerns can and do breed - as in the inability to eat high protein and it passed on in the genes.
Wolves with this concern just die in the wild and no reproducing or passing on.

Also we do not know that if she puts her little one on High protein that she will not see an aggression concern arise and then wonder from where that came from.
High test fuel in a hot running dogs a big mistake and if your not aware it is a possible and your dog goes from nice boy to killer.. that is a piece of info needed.
Or if I am reading this and thinking humm think I will switch to high protein sounds good but wait I have aggression concerns with my dog.. maybe I better go ask a vet nutritionist or my vet behaviorist first.
It is making sure the bases get covered and an understanding that not all things are good for all dogs and can have a bad out come if tried.

JL

[Tiffy21]

Originally Posted by TrinkettsMommy

I've had my baby on Eukanuba since I got her. She started out eating the can food for puppies but now I add the Eukanuba small breed dry food to it. She seems to like it but I was just curious if anyone knows if thats healthy for her? Anyone else out there feed their babies Eukanuba brand?

I recently had my baby in to the vet and he told me to get her off of Eukanuba. In the begining the food wasnt that bad, but the longer I had her on it the worse it got. My little girl was constantly throwing up and had diharia. It was so sad to see. He put her one Hills and shes never been happier!!! Its full of fiber and thats been really friendly on her digestive tract!

[mscat]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

I am sure she has a "normal" baby to but as many read these threads, it is nice to toss out that there are cases when sometimes high protein may not work. As she really does not say and he still young it worth a mention.

As our dogs have been breed along way away from wolves; their little systems are a little different. As dogs with health concerns can and do breed - as in the inability to eat high protein and it passed on in the genes.
Wolves with this concern just die in the wild and no reproducing or passing on.

Also we do not know that if she puts her little one on High protein that she will not see an aggression concern arise and then wonder from where that came from.
High test fuel in a hot running dogs a big mistake and if your not aware it is a possible and your dog goes from nice boy to killer.. that is a piece of info needed.
Or if I am reading this and thinking humm think I will switch to high protein sounds good but wait I have aggression concerns with my dog.. maybe I better go ask a vet nutritionist or my vet behaviorist first.
It is making sure the bases get covered and an understanding that not all things are good for all dogs and can have a bad out come if tried.

JL

YES Suzi is A normal healthy Puppy. I want to do what is best for her and will feed the Prem. foods to her , if it is safe. i didi give A 6 prem. canned food to her and it gave her Gas, she loved it though, however I am not going to give it to her anymore.
I am strongly leaning towards the Chicken Soup for the Puppy , and then change her kibble to adult .BY Nature is not A Bad food either. IT haas no fillers or any of the yucky crap that comercial dogs foods have. IT is rated as A 4 , butsome of thier other foods are rated as 5-6 . She is getting a healthy diet as of now.

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by mscat

YES Suzi is A normal healthy Puppy. I want to do what is best for her and will feed the Prem. foods to her , if it is safe. i didi give A 6 prem. canned food to her and it gave her Gas, she loved it though, however I am not going to give it to her anymore.
I am strongly leaning towards the Chicken Soup for the Puppy , and then change her kibble to adult .BY Nature is not A Bad food either. IT haas no fillers or any of the yucky crap that comercial dogs foods have. IT is rated as A 4 , butsome of thier other foods are rated as 5-6 . She is getting a healthy diet as of now.

I never said she was nt a strong and healthy dog and I am glad for you but as I said in my post that does not mean that others will not read this and wonder if high protien is good for all dogs and that info should be put across as well that no not all dogs can manage it.

Good luck with your choice it would nt be mine. I tend to stick to one protien souce at a time but then again I do have a dog with concerns.
It will be intrestig to see if it is on the Whole dogs journals list of recomended foods next year. I do know it is trial feed testing or should be soon.
JL

[lucyaboo]

I hope TrinkettsMommy and pup are doing good & enjoying what ever dog food you decided to feed her

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

I am sure she has a "normal" baby to but as many read these threads, it is nice to toss out that there are cases when sometimes high protein may not work. As she really does not say and he still young it worth a mention.

As our dogs have been breed along way away from wolves; their little systems are a little different. As dogs with health concerns can and do breed - as in the inability to eat high protein and it passed on in the genes.
Wolves with this concern just die in the wild and no reproducing or passing on.

Also we do not know that if she puts her little one on High protein that she will not see an aggression concern arise and then wonder from where that came from.
High test fuel in a hot running dogs a big mistake and if your not aware it is a possible and your dog goes from nice boy to killer.. that is a piece of info needed.
Or if I am reading this and thinking humm think I will switch to high protein sounds good but wait I have aggression concerns with my dog.. maybe I better go ask a vet nutritionist or my vet behaviorist first.
It is making sure the bases get covered and an understanding that not all things are good for all dogs and can have a bad out come if tried.

JL

The domestic dog was actually reclassified as the exact same species as the wolf. The domestic dog is merely a subspecies. Their digestive systems are no different than a wolf's.

Yes, some dogs react differently than others...some have special needs. However, all dogs are carnivores and most should be fed a protein-rich, low carb diet. I feed a raw diet...meat, bones & organs. Carnivores do not need grains, fruits, or veggies..although a little won't hurt. They were designed to eat this diet. Unfortunately our society has been fooled into thinking our dogs have evolved greatly in only a few thousand years..and that's just not the case.

Also, where are you coming up with the idea that high protein diets cause aggression? I have NEVER heard of that, other than the myth that feeding a raw diet will make a dog "blood thirsty"..and that is just that..a MYTH.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

The domestic dog was actually reclassified as the exact same species as the wolf. The domestic dog is merely a subspecies. Their digestive systems are no different than a wolf's.

Yes, some dogs react differently than others...some have special needs. However, all dogs are carnivores and most should be fed a protein-rich, low carb diet. I feed a raw diet...meat, bones & organs. Carnivores do not need grains, fruits, or veggies..although a little won't hurt. They were designed to eat this diet. Unfortunately our society has been fooled into thinking our dogs have evolved greatly in only a few thousand years..and that's just not the case.

Well that stance kind of kills the whole "no by-products" speach, then....hmmm...

[YorkieMother]

Well humm Dr. Overall, Dr Dodman,
And I did not say it causes it I said it can make it worse.
Summary of Tufts University study on the effect of dietary protein on dog behavior
PROVET HEALTHCARE INFORMATION - Protein and Canine Aggression
Got nothing to do with blood thirst at all and I never said that.
You feed a dog that is running high high protein food you make him run higher.
Most everything I have read on aggression is low protein helps slow them down.
The last thing you want in an aggressive dog is one that bites even faster then it things all ready.
Unless there are studies out there that I have not seen this is what I have ben taught. It very possible that things have been changed and I have missed stuff and that is ok too but this is what I know as of now.

JL

[YorkieMother]

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Where did I ever say anything about raw being bad or good.. I was talking only and soully protien... If I was talking raw that be a differnt story.. oh by the way wolves do eat grass and berries and such like... what you think is in the bellies of the animals they eat?? and the wolves eat the contents too.. ohhh yes they do !?!!?!!?
I very very aware that all dogs are differnt and some have special needs but to not point it out and asssume all dogs can eat raw or that kibble or this is wrong. Oh yes this kibble kind is the only way to go or raw chicken is the only way.
Yeah raw chicken in my dog be a very very bad thing. Actually chicken of any kind and a freinds as well. Lamb for another can not eat.
Dogs may be of the wolf family like we are of apes but they are not wolves nor are we a monkey or a great ape.

JL

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

Well humm Dr. Overall, Dr Dodman,
And I did not say it causes it I said it can make it worse.
Summary of Tufts University study on the effect of dietary protein on dog behavior
PROVET HEALTHCARE INFORMATION - Protein and Canine Aggression
Got nothing to do with blood thirst at all and I never said that.
You feed a dog that is running high high protein food you make him run higher.
Most everything I have read on aggression is low protein helps slow them down.
The last thing you want in an aggressive dog is one that bites even faster then it things all ready.
Unless there are studies out there that I have not seen this is what I have ben taught. It very possible that things have been changed and I have missed stuff and that is ok too but this is what I know as of now.

JL

So basically you are trying to treat an overactive, aggressive dog by making him malnourished which in turn makes him sluggish? Doesn't make sense...

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

what you think is in the bellies of the animals they eat?? and the wolves eat the contents too.. ohhh yes they do !?!!?!!?

That's a myth. I wolf may eat the entire stomach of small prey such as a rabbit, but in larger prey they do NOT usually eat stomach contents.

Myths About Raw: Do wolves eat stomach contents of prey?

So far as dogs and wolves not being the same species, they are in fact the exact same species. As this article states, any type of dog and wolf can interbreed and produce FERTILE offspring. Genetically different species produce INFERTILE offspring.

Myths About Raw: Are dogs too far removed from wolves to be fed raw food?

[TrinkettsMommy]

Well I didn't mean for my thread to cause conflict. Today I went and got Wellness for Puppy & I'm starting to mix it with the Eukanuba to get her use to it. She love it! Thanks Everyone for your help!

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by TrinkettsMommy

Well I didn't mean for my thread to cause conflict. Today I went and got Wellness for Puppy & I'm starting to mix it with the Eukanuba to get her use to it. She love it! Thanks Everyone for your help!

You did not start anything at all. I lke wellness it is on whole dog journals list of good foods.
Good luck at with your food choice

MyFairLacy _ low protien does not mean under feeding it can mean life or death for an aggressive dog though.

Sadly having seen a real wild wolf.. not a caged one, I tend to diagree with the not eating stomach contents..... my eyes have seen.... hummm???

JL

[mscat]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

I never said she was nt a strong and healthy dog and I am glad for you but as I said in my post that does not mean that others will not read this and wonder if high protien is good for all dogs and that info should be put across as well that no not all dogs can manage it.

Good luck with your choice it would nt be mine. I tend to stick to one protien souce at a time but then again I do have a dog with concerns.
It will be intrestig to see if it is on the Whole dogs journals list of recomended foods next year. I do know it is trial feed testing or should be soon.
JL

Your exactly right, it is my choice what I will feed my Puppy. She certainly will be eating a high quality food no matter what.
By the way yorkiemother what is your professional expertise on this subject, you do seem to come across as A Know IT All attitude ?
As for the OP this is A very good thread! I am glad that you have decided on wellness for your baby.
Best wishes to you and your pup