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Old 03-04-2008, 01:48 PM   #16
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I know there are several ppl on here that really like the results. I don't feed the YT specific formula, but do feed Eukanua as part of the regular diet for ours and have no complaints. It's just important to keep in mind that what may be best for one dog may not be right for the next.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:56 PM   #17
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I like Nature's Recipe. They have a lot of different formulas to choose from and my dogs love it. It's also graded and 99% on the dog food grading scale thing that someone posted a long time ago. I feed Nature's Recipe Easy to Digest because my two have gastro problems but I'm thinking of trying the terrier formula. It costs about the same your paying for Eukanuba, but it's a 20 lb bag, not 10. I think we pay about $25 for 20 lbs.
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I like Nature's Recipe. They have a lot of different formulas to choose from and my dogs love it. It's also graded and 99% on the dog food grading scale thing that someone posted a long time ago. I feed Nature's Recipe Easy to Digest because my two have gastro problems but I'm thinking of trying the terrier formula. It costs about the same your paying for Eukanuba, but it's a 20 lb bag, not 10. I think we pay about $25 for 20 lbs.
I just started feeding that exact same thing to mine (in addition to other things) as I have one with an extremely sensitive tummy. I have been VERY pleased with the results so far!
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When you say itching, do you refer to when he/she starts sliding on its behind on the rug?! Because I thought it was normal (now and then!) but now I am worried...
Mine eats Eukanuba for puppies and has been fine except for the occasional behind scratching (doesnt occur much!)
Does this mean I should switch?
sorry I meant rub not rug, LOL...she would rub up against the wall, trying to relieve the itch.
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Have you tried www.petfooddirect.com? They sell Canidae and will deliver.
I dont want to have it delivered, I live in a townhouse with tons of neighbors and would be afraid someone would steal it off my doorstep. Thank you for the suggestion though!
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I used to feed Eukanuba......but then I found out that it contains bi-products....And you don't want anything that has anything to do with that! I reccomend Royal Canin Yorke! My baby loves her Royal Canin! (and she doesn't get the itchies!
I just cannot afford to feed them that I wish I could. Here it is $27 for a 10lb bag! I know it does not sound outrageous, but I have 2 babies, own a house and do it all alone.. so money is tight. thank you though!
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I like Nature's Recipe. They have a lot of different formulas to choose from and my dogs love it. It's also graded and 99% on the dog food grading scale thing that someone posted a long time ago. I feed Nature's Recipe Easy to Digest because my two have gastro problems but I'm thinking of trying the terrier formula. It costs about the same your paying for Eukanuba, but it's a 20 lb bag, not 10. I think we pay about $25 for 20 lbs.
I bought a small bag of that to try and they didnt eat it It sat in the bowl for days until I had to go out and buy soemthing new before they starved to death. (I did homecook for them one night so they would eat SOMETHING - I didnt let them not eat at all - in case I just gave that impression)
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Mine had that issue with science diet(food would sit there). Now Im trying DVP natural balance from petco. I also ordred Artemis, just waiting on it. He has eaten the natural balance more than the science diet but I still dont think hes eating as much as he should be.
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, they are like $27 for a 10lb bag! YIKES! I live in the suburbs/city where there is not a lot of need for farmer markets and such so I can never find Canidae, which is ideally what Id like to put them on.
I'm bonking my brain here trying to think of something for you. Well, one thing to consider is that you can't compare a 10 lb. bag to another 10 lb. bag. Oftentimes, w/ a higher quality kibble - you feed less, and it actually ends up being cheaper than a lower quality kibble.

As for EUK, I would never, ever feed it. 1) Fillers galore (hello allergy potential! been there, done that ) 2) Iams/EUK was busted big time for cruelty in their animal testing on dogs - that alone would stop me dead in my tracks. Deplorable.

What are some of the brands at Petco/Petsmart? Have you thought about Eagle Pack - it is a better food (not the best, imo), but often a bit less pricey.
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2) Iams/EUK was busted big time for cruelty in their animal testing on dogs - that alone would stop me dead in my tracks. Deplorable.
The fact that PETA was the driving force behind that investigation makes me question how completely accurate the info presented was.

Shocking though how many people claim to be non supporters of Iams/Eukanuba because the don't buy their food, but support them in many other ways... It's like only sticking to your guns and taking a stand when it's 'convenient.'
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The fact that PETA was the driving force behind that investigation makes me question how completely accurate the info presented was.
As in most things captured on video (and proven not be doctored), footage speaks for itself. For the record, Iams/EUK even admitted to their own wrongdoing with their immediate PR campaign following the bust. You could even subscribe to their "follow-up" emails - where they updated you on their progress on how they were improving the care of their dogs.

The fact that PETA was the driving force behind the footage, for me, makes it even more reliable bc they are so vigilant about what they put out there, PRECISELY because of preconceived suspicions like the one you're stating above.^^^^
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As in most things captured on video (and proven not be doctored), footage speaks for itself. For the record, Iams/EUK even admitted to their own wrongdoing with their immediate PR campaign following the bust. You could even subscribe to their "follow-up" emails - where they updated you on their progress on how they were improving the care of their dogs.

The fact that PETA was the driving force behind the footage, for me, makes it even more reliable bc they are so vigilant about what they put out there, PRECISELY because of preconceived suspicions like the one you're stating above.^^^^
It's not a "preconceived suspicion" that makes me leary of PETA. (As a side note, I generally tend to research things for myself and try to avoid making blind statements without educating myself on them first.) Lots of their tactics are goals just a bit to extreme and ridiculous for my taste. Kind of a situation of the good being overshadowed by the bad. But I know I'm not the only one that feels that way, so it's all good.
I believe that it wasn't actually Iams conducting the testing, but a research company they contracted out to do it for them? Funny thing you should mention that the Iams company is making efforts to correct the situation, not to mention they've paid out a ton of $$ to charities that promote animal wellfare since...another case of the good (their efforts to right a wrong) being overshadowed by the bad, I suppose.

I completely understand people not wanting to support the company for the role it played in the ordeal. But I ask again, how many people REALLY have pulled their support from the company in ALL areas. Not just refusing to buy the food. IMO, it's easy to talk the talk of not supporting a company, but then if you turn around and support them in other ways...KWIM?

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The fact that PETA was the driving force behind that investigation makes me question how completely accurate the info presented was.
^^^It that's not a preconceived notion right there in print, then I don't know what one is.

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Funny thing you should mention that the Iams company is making efforts to correct the situation, not to mention they've paid out a ton of $$ to charities that promote animal wellfare since...another case of the good (their efforts to right a wrong) being overshadowed by the bad, I suppose.
Well, their leap in generosity toward animal welfare certainly has a direct correlation following 1) cruelty to their animals, 2) a drop in their sales and public outcry and 3) a major PR campaign to foster goodwill and re-brand themselves. Brilliant! I have no problem with any of that except #1 - and hopefully that is a costly lesson they won't repeat.

Good for them for donating money, bc they owe it, imo, to the animals upon whose backs they built their fortunes, and got dirty bc of it. That doesn't mean they've earned my purchasing power back, nor does it change my opinion of their ingredients.

That's really all I have to say about this - because I don't want to get into one the circular arguments that this kind of thing attracts for some people.
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But I ask again, how many people REALLY have pulled their support from the company in ALL areas. Not just refusing to buy the food. IMO, it's easy to talk the talk of not supporting a company, but then if you turn around and support them in other ways...KWIM?
The validity of claims of Eukanuba's animal testing can't questioned- you can watch the videoes and just trust your own eyes.

Bama, you and I have discussed this before so I will just say again- we all do the best we can but not being able to do EVERYTHING is not an excuse for doing NOTHING.

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^^^It that's not a preconceived notion right there in print, then I don't know what one is.
Hmm...a misunderstanding I think. "Preconceived" about things they are the driving force for, not "preconceived" for PETA itself...if that makes any sense.

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Well, their leap in generosity toward animal welfare certainly has a direct correlation following 1) cruelty to their animals, 2) a drop in their sales and public outcry and 3) a major PR campaign to foster goodwill and re-brand themselves. Brilliant! I have no problem with any of that except #1 - and hopefully that is a costly lesson they won't repeat.
Agreed that it's probably the result of getting caught in the middle of something they should have never done. No arguing there, but they are trying to right their mistakes...take it where you can get it. And yes, they do owe it, IMO.

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That's really all I have to say about this - because I don't want to get into one the circular arguments that this kind of thing attracts for some people.
Understood...<sigh> Maybe one day someone will take a stab to answer my other question that I've asked before, which no one has yet. Funny how when that one comes out, no one has an answer or explanation. (Generally speaking.)
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