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01-03-2008, 11:15 AM | #1 |
Lovin' to the MAX!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yorkieville
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| Solid Gold Does anyone have any experience using this for their Yorkie? A friend recommended it to me, but Max is on Hill's W/D prescription (low calorie) and he's doing fine on it, but she also tells me that vets just put them on that brand b/c they get a kickback. Not that I care about that, I just want to give him the very best quality food that we can while keeping his dietary restrictions/needs in mind. I'd be interested and appreciative if anyone can share any knowledge about this product. Thanks!
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01-03-2008, 11:23 AM | #2 |
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| Some here use Solid Gold. It is pretty good. Could you go to a senior food if you are worried about calories? Usually those have less. They also have less protein though and that may not be good. Solid Gold is tons better than Hills. Or could you just feed less of a food that you really like?
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01-03-2008, 11:28 AM | #3 |
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| Lucy gets Solild Gold Wee Bites. It took away her itching and she likes it (which is saying something).
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01-03-2008, 11:33 AM | #4 |
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| I used the Solid Gold puppy for my little guy and LOVED it! Then I went to the Solid Gold Just a Wee Bit, super great ingredients, and he LOVED it- BUT it SMELLED (salmon is a main ingredient)!! Smells like cat food and when you get yorkie kisses every five seconds it just was too gross for me! So we put him on the Innova Chicken and Turkey, which has worked out great. Also, my hubby is a vet and wouldn't put his worst enemy's pet on Hills... Just some thoughts..
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01-03-2008, 10:12 PM | #5 |
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| Solid gold holistic blend is lower in fat and protein. It might work for you. I use it and the tiny bits. Mine like it and its good food. |
01-04-2008, 10:16 AM | #6 | |
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Now I feel awful for feeding Max the W/D for so long ! I'll have to check to see the protein content in both just to make sure he's getting what he should. I would ask my vet, but I know she's totally into the Hills and I'm thinking of changing to another vet anyway. I'm not sure if I could handle the cat food smell either, LOL..I've got 2 cats and some of their canned food smells pretty bad! Max is on the W/D b/c a couple of years ago (he'll be 3 in March) he was a little overweight AND came down with pancreatitis. They couldn't determine if the pancreas was overworked b/c he was overweight or if he'd gotten into something, but regardless, he did need to lose some weight and it's really helped. He's quite the avid eater, so I give him canned food twice a day and little bits of the dry in between (like when I"M eating so he feels like he's part of the group, LOL). I was feeling kind of scared to change his food since he's been doing so well; but I guess it's not going to hurt him to at least try him on something different. I know this is a dumb question, but why does your dh have an aversion to Hills? I felt happy when a lot of the other dog foods were being recalled, that at least the one Max was on wasn't one of them. But I have heard a lot of negative things said about Hills foods.
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01-04-2008, 10:27 AM | #7 | |
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01-04-2008, 10:46 AM | #8 | |
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Please don't feel bad. Ellie was on Science Diet before I knew better because we thought it was best. Most vets have a way of getting us to accept Hills. After I took Ellie off of regular Science Diet kibble we started homecooking. Ellie needed a special diet for her liver. The vet said we could try L/D. I said I wouldn't use Science Diet and then she tells me she doesn't use it much either. See, some vets recommend it because they don't know what else to do. They do have all the disease formulas. Most vets think it is the best thing since sliced bread though. I can't say why her hubby doesn't like it but I can tell you why I don't. They use horrible ingredients, they give good discounts to vet students and try to get them into their food early and they do seminars at vet school along with a few other companies and this is some of the only "nutrition" training that vet schools get. It is biased. Ingredients in W/D: Canned: Water, Egg Product, Ground Whole Grain Corn, Chicken, Cracked Pearled Barley, Pork Liver, Powdered Cellulose, Chicken Liver Flavor, Soybean Oil, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Sulfate, Choline Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Iodized Salt, Vitamin E Supplement, Taurine, L-Tryptophan, Ascorbic Acid (source of vitamin C), L-Carnitine, Zinc Oxide, Ferrous Sulfate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Beta-Carotene, Niacin, Manganous Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin, Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite. There are worse food than this one. Corn is a major cause of allergies and isn't too much more than a filler. I wouldn't want to feed liver everyday (vitamin a toxicity) but it is lower on the list so it might be okay. I still wouldn't feed this unless absolutely necessary and I don't think it is because there are lots of food low in protein and fat. Dry: Ground Whole Grain Corn, Powdered Cellulose 18% (source of fiber), Corn Gluten Meal, Chicken by-product Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Soybean Mill Run, Chicken, Soybean Oil, Dried Beet Pulp, Calcium Sulfate, Iron Oxide, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), preserved with BHT, BHA and Ethoxyquin, L-Tryptophan, Taurine, DL-Methionine, Calcium Carbonate, L-Carnitine, Beta-Carotene. This is a terrible food. The corn would be the least of my worries in this one. By-Products can be things like kidney and heart which are good for dogs but they can also be other things like blood. I'm not sure about soybean mill run is a filler with little nutritional value. It is sometimes referred to as floor sweepings. BHA, BHT and ethoxyquin are chemicals that shouldn't go into anyone's body. Ethoxyquin is labeled "POISON" and is used very rarely in spices. It is banned for human use in a lot of places and banned totally in Japan.
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01-04-2008, 05:14 PM | #9 | |
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Is there anywhere that you can find how many calories/fat/protein/sodium/ carbohydrates a Yorkie should get a day or the other nutrients they should like the RDA's? It seems so simple to figure all that out for people but where is that same info on dogs? I think I might be more inclined to home cook if I knew how much he's supposed to get per day and what nutrients are needed or harmful. I hope I don't need to go to vet school to find this out, LOL...I'm too old to do that! But it would really help in choosing even commercially made foods out if I knew where to find the proper information! Thank you all so much for your input; eventually, I'll get him off the Hills! ETA: I remember reading somewhere at one point when I very first got Max that corn isn't good for them; and I remember it very well, b/c my parrots LOVED corn on the cob and they'd of course, throw half of it on the floor and I'd always be scrambling to pick it up before Max got to it.....of course, their favorite foods were corn and grapes.....I looked like a hockey forward a lot of the time racing to grab one or the other out of Max's jaws, LOL. Anyhow, that's one reason I'm kind of confused about what they're putting into the dog foods if they put corn in it.
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01-04-2008, 09:07 PM | #10 |
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| It is true about the kickbacks, when vets are in vet school they get all sorts of fun stuff for free from Hills every month. Hills also pays lots of money for various things like scholarships, books, etc. I guess its worth it to them cuz they make money when the vets practice and retail the stuff. My hubby does not feel that Hills is any quality of dog food. We use hollistic food for our three pups, natural balance venison and sweet potato for our allergic to everything lab, and now the Innova for yorkie and the golden. He not only looks at the nutrition levels, but also the values of the company. Neither of which Hills has. Don't feel bad, you were just trying to do what's best for your max.
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01-05-2008, 01:35 AM | #11 |
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| I give my 2 year old boy Solid Gold - Hund N Flocken, and my 4 1/2 month girl Solid Gold puppy formula. What I don't like about the puppy formula is that it is quite big for my girl, she is tiny and I have to soak the food into some hot water before feeding her. Other than that, I believe Solid Gold is a good brand. They use human grade ingredients and no corns. |
01-05-2008, 10:10 AM | #12 |
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| OK, so how did those of you who feed Solid Gold, decide to use it over other brands? And how did you decide which variety to use for your dog? I wish I knew where to find information that is set forth in a concise, simple format, you know what I mean? Like "this is what your dog needs as far as nutrients and calories and this is where you find that information", and what they need if they need to be restricted in any way; what's ok to cut back on, how much, etc. Its' kind of frustrating. I really appreciate all your feedback on this though. It seems like one maker will say such and such shouldn't be in the food and then another maker will say something very different. It's hard to know who to believe since they're all trying to sell their product (just like any other business).
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01-05-2008, 08:41 PM | #13 |
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| I agreed with you that one brand is good in one thing while another brand is good in some other thing. Because of this reason, I give my boy different brands (Wellness, Solid Gold and Orijen) in each meal. My boy likes this way since he can get 3 various tastes in each meal. I also change his food each time he finishes one bag but I always shift within those brands I mentioned. Brand wise, I think Solid Gold and Wellness are both good; Orijen is new and it is quite high in protein which might damage their little kidney (that's what I heard). My boy prefers Solid Gold's Hund n Floken since it is easy to eat (shape and size is like a dime), not like the pyramid shape (Wellness), he always have hard time chewing before swallowing. |
01-05-2008, 08:46 PM | #14 |
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| I had my 2 on solid gold wee bits for a cpl months last yr. I was not pleased. They were pooping alot more. It was soft and yellow in color and also very stinky! They r both on canidae all life stages now and we have no problems.
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01-06-2008, 12:41 PM | #15 | |
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I guess I'm going to have to research the different foods and needs myself. Thanks everyone for your input!
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