Black Circle Appeared After Being Groomed??? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

shade1721 · 11-24-2008, 04:18 PM

I took our sweet boy to be groomed last week. DH picked him up that afternoon and it was dark when I got home so I didn't really notice anything. The next morning when Baxter was racing around the backyard I noticed this weird black circle on his butt about 2 inches to the left of his tail on his back upper thigh/butt. I have NEVER noticed this before. I picked up on it immediately, so it is definitely something new. I looked closer and it almost looks like someone dipped their thumb in ink and then pressed it onto his hindquarters. I seriously thought it might just wash off, but no such luck. It looks like a black thumbprint of fur. It doesn't bother him when I touch it and it doesn't feel rough like the skin is hurt or anything. Does anyone have any idea what this may be? Will it go away? Thanks for all your help!!

cj125 · 11-24-2008, 07:10 PM

Wow - I can't think what it would be. Can you post a picture of it?

Patti · 11-24-2008, 07:15 PM

No idea. Pictures would help maybe.

juliaw04 · 11-24-2008, 07:17 PM

I agree, can you post a picture?

One thought, did you have his hair trimmed shorter this time? Maybe you're noticing something that has previously been covered with hair?

shade1721 · 11-24-2008, 08:23 PM

These aren't the best pictures, but it was all i could do right now. On the first picture it is the small round dot on the left of his tail, not the dark patch on the top. The second picture was my attempt at a close up.
I didn't have it trimmed any shorter, as a matter of fact it seemed like it was left longer than usual. It is so weird! Thank you for all your help!

Little Bit · 11-24-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shade1721

These aren't the best pictures, but it was all i could do right now. On the first picture it is the small round dot on the left of his tail, not the dark patch on the top. The second picture was my attempt at a close up.
I didn't have it trimmed any shorter, as a matter of fact it seemed like it was left longer than usual. It is so weird! Thank you for all your help!

I would guess that probably a long time ago that bunch of hair got pulled out. When that happens the new hair has lots more pigment and comes in darker. As it grows out it dissipates and blends in with the rest. It was apparently hidden by the longer hair over it until now and it just happens to have been long enought to have been cut to the same length as the rest this time.

In a few months or so it will probably disappear as that hair grows out more.

dogears · 11-25-2008, 06:45 AM

Has he had any vaccines lately? At one time my 1st poodle (gray) got a rabies shot and she apparently had a reaction to it. The area swelled up and later her hair grew in black and straight.

shade1721 · 11-25-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bit

I would guess that probably a long time ago that bunch of hair got pulled out. When that happens the new hair has lots more pigment and comes in darker. As it grows out it dissipates and blends in with the rest. It was apparently hidden by the longer hair over it until now and it just happens to have been long enought to have been cut to the same length as the rest this time.

In a few months or so it will probably disappear as that hair grows out more.

I can't for the life of me imagine how or when his hair could have gotten pulled out. I would think that would be something I would have noticed. It makes me sad just thinking about it! He was 11 weeks old when we got him and he is 1 1/2 years now and I don't ever remember anything like that happening. I guess the positive news is that you think it is just a pigmentation change. I don't really care about the color change, but knowing it isn't a sign of something else or that it could be painful makes me feel better. Thanks for the info!

shade1721 · 11-25-2008, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dogears

Has he had any vaccines lately? At one time my 1st poodle (gray) got a rabies shot and she apparently had a reaction to it. The area swelled up and later her hair grew in black and straight.

Had yearly shots about a month and a half ago....hmmmm. Didn't notice anything different then, but maybe I just couldn't see it and now it has grown out. Thanks for the input.

juliaw04 · 11-25-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Little Bit

I would guess that probably a long time ago that bunch of hair got pulled out. When that happens the new hair has lots more pigment and comes in darker. As it grows out it dissipates and blends in with the rest. It was apparently hidden by the longer hair over it until now and it just happens to have been long enought to have been cut to the same length as the rest this time.

In a few months or so it will probably disappear as that hair grows out more.

Wow, the spot is a whole lot more noticeable than what I was expecting!

I agree with what Little Bit suggested, the same thought came to my mind when I looked at the picture. If she is right, and hair did get pulled out, it is possible that it's something that happened as a young puppy even before you owned him. Maybe fighting with siblings? Especially since a yorkie's hair lightens in color as they get older, that may help explain why you haven't noticed it before.

ARCHIE · 11-25-2008, 12:40 PM

This is a shot in the dark but that circle looks too perfect.
Could it be the end of a blow dryer that left a burn mark on
his coat? Is the skin red underneath? Just a thought.

Little Bit · 11-25-2008, 03:51 PM

Is that hip where he got a shot??? I have heard of hair falling out sometimes with some shots. Possibly that is what happened and that is new hair like I explained before.

shade1721 · 11-26-2008, 07:17 AM

I can't find any red spots underneath the black patch. I'm starting to think that it may be the spot where he got his annual shots about 2 months ago. I just don't know.
Has anyone ever heard of clipper trauma or groomer trauma? I was searching online and found a few references to this. It says that if the hair gets clipped too short in one spot, it can create a color change.
This is quite the mystery!!
Thanks to everyone for all your input and advice. This is my first time really posting on here and the support has been amazing!
I hope you all have a happy and safe Thanksgiving!

luvfla · 11-26-2008, 10:50 AM

Looks like butt circles...produced by aliens, very similar to crop circles.

You are lucky that they are not shaped like a politian!

MollysMum54 · 11-27-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by luvfla

Looks like butt circles...produced by aliens, very similar to crop circles.

You are lucky that they are not shaped like a politian!

hee hee..that gave me a good laugh!!

11-24-2008, 04:18 PM	#1
shade1721 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 15	Black Circle Appeared After Being Groomed??? I took our sweet boy to be groomed last week. DH picked him up that afternoon and it was dark when I got home so I didn't really notice anything. The next morning when Baxter was racing around the backyard I noticed this weird black circle on his butt about 2 inches to the left of his tail on his back upper thigh/butt. I have NEVER noticed this before. I picked up on it immediately, so it is definitely something new. I looked closer and it almost looks like someone dipped their thumb in ink and then pressed it onto his hindquarters. I seriously thought it might just wash off, but no such luck. It looks like a black thumbprint of fur. It doesn't bother him when I touch it and it doesn't feel rough like the skin is hurt or anything. Does anyone have any idea what this may be? Will it go away? Thanks for all your help!! __________________ Baxter's Mom http://www.dogster.com/dogs/708125

11-24-2008, 07:10 PM	#2
cj125 Mia, Max and Moe's Mom Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,403	Wow - I can't think what it would be. Can you post a picture of it? __________________ *Connie* Mia Max Moe

11-24-2008, 07:15 PM	#3
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	No idea. Pictures would help maybe. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

11-24-2008, 07:17 PM	#4
juliaw04 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 2,166	I agree, can you post a picture? One thought, did you have his hair trimmed shorter this time? Maybe you're noticing something that has previously been covered with hair? __________________ ~ Julie, mommy to A.J and KaCee~

11-25-2008, 03:51 PM	#12
Little Bit Tiny Dog Big Heart Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 6,205	Is that hip where he got a shot??? I have heard of hair falling out sometimes with some shots. Possibly that is what happened and that is new hair like I explained before. __________________ Little Bit

11-25-2008, 06:45 AM	#7
dogears Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, nc Posts: 555	Has he had any vaccines lately? At one time my 1st poodle (gray) got a rabies shot and she apparently had a reaction to it. The area swelled up and later her hair grew in black and straight.

11-25-2008, 12:40 PM	#11
ARCHIE No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 16,218	This is a shot in the dark but that circle looks too perfect. Could it be the end of a blow dryer that left a burn mark on his coat? Is the skin red underneath? Just a thought.

11-26-2008, 07:17 AM	#13
shade1721 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 15	Hmmmm... I can't find any red spots underneath the black patch. I'm starting to think that it may be the spot where he got his annual shots about 2 months ago. I just don't know. Has anyone ever heard of clipper trauma or groomer trauma? I was searching online and found a few references to this. It says that if the hair gets clipped too short in one spot, it can create a color change. This is quite the mystery!! Thanks to everyone for all your input and advice. This is my first time really posting on here and the support has been amazing! I hope you all have a happy and safe Thanksgiving! __________________ Baxter's Mom http://www.dogster.com/dogs/708125

11-26-2008, 10:50 AM	#14
luvfla YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Satellite Beach, FL Posts: 3,691	Looks like butt circles...produced by aliens, very similar to crop circles. You are lucky that they are not shaped like a politian!