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s13silviagirl · 12-29-2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elegntorchid

Rae Rae, you may not be the best person to have a pet of anykind, you do not seem to hold them in very much regard or have much respect for them. They are living, breathing beings with feelings, with the ability to show love and emotion. You as we all, should be thankful if one has chosen to love you and therefor treat him/her with the respect that deserves.

WOW...just wow. That was a little harsh don't you think? I am sure she loves her dog just as much as any of us and I am sure a lot more than most people in the world do to their pets. But, just because we love our dogs doesn't mean that everyone else has to. They have rules in place for a reason. Mostly for the safety of the dog and the people onboard the aircraft.

Yes we are having the dog as a carry-on. Yes you pay for it. But, you would be paying for the dog to go in cargo too. There was an airline stewardess that posted not too long ago on here, and THEY are held liable for their passengers. If anyone from the airlines is on board (to include air marshal's) and they see that they are letting passengers get away with things they have to pay the fines, not the customer on the plane. They can even loose their job over it. Is it fair the dog has to stay put under the seat? No, is it fair to that stewardess that she pay fines for me taking the dog out from under the seat? No. But, I also know that when I agree to pay that price to carry my fur-kid on board that I have to follow the rules.

I am about to fly back home to the US soon from Japan, and I know I will have to follow the rules. It sucks yes, but, when I pay that price ($160 EACH from Japan to the US) for them to ride in the cabin with me, I know what I am agreeing to. Will I ask the stewardess if I can take mine to the bathroom to stretch their legs. YOU BET. That is a 10 hour flight. I am sure that on the way to the US from Japan will be a bit more lenient as they are avid dogs lovers over here.

To me, I am grateful that they don't have to ride in cargo, which the airlines very well could say. What if the FAA made it a rule that no pets could be in cabin, aside from service dogs? Would you stop flying? Would you leave your dog at home? I mean it can be worse.

But this is getting off topic~
OP: I agree that it sounds like the stewardess was a rude you know what. I am sorry for that, I don't see why you can't touch your dogs crate.

The only thing I can think of is either a) she is not an animal lover or b) there was an airline official on board... hell maybe it was both. Sad truth is, there are a lot of ppl in the world that just plain don't like animals. Is it fair to us? No. Is it fair to the dog? No. Again so sorry for your experience and I am sure a lot of ppl will not like my post... but I guess with my background, I am used to things being by-the-book.

P.S. On a side note, cats are also allowed in cabin. Would you want someone taking a cat out of the carrier? What if the person to your left or right, in front or in back of you was allergic? Should you still be allowed to take the cat out? Then it becomes a medical risk. Airlines are just covering their butts. It isn't a dog thing, it is a safety thing. Rules are universal across the board for dogs and cats.

Sugar's Mom · 12-29-2007, 07:17 AM

i realize this iss an old thread that someeone pulled back to the top so I will give my opinion on it.

No one that flys with a pet should be surprised. The rules and regulations for traveling with pets are plastered all over all the airlines websites. I always check for the rules of any airline I am flying with a few days before I fly. I am flying Northwwest here in a few days and I have almost memorized the rules for traveling with pets. Rules are put in place for a reason. pets have gotten loose from carriers that owners had opened and had to be chased all over the airline. Upset pets have bitten other passengers.

s13silviagirl · 12-29-2007, 07:25 AM

Well.........I feel sheepish. I didn't even see the date!!!

daisy mae06 · 12-29-2007, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

i realize this iss an old thread that someeone pulled back to the top so I will give my opinion on it.

No one that flys with a pet should be surprised. The rules and regulations for traveling with pets are plastered all over all the airlines websites. I always check for the rules of any airline I am flying with a few days before I fly. I am flying Northwwest here in a few days and I have almost memorized the rules for traveling with pets. Rules are put in place for a reason. pets have gotten loose from carriers that owners had opened and had to be chased all over the airline. Upset pets have bitten other passengers.

Being that you are coming here (YAY) I Really hope that your Flight goes well. Rose and I will be waiting for you and I can't wait to meet you

And I hope your flight is GREAT!

daisy mae06 · 12-29-2007, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by s13silviagirl

Well.........I feel sheepish. I didn't even see the date!!!

Date What date

If it is something like flying with pets I see no reason why it sould not be brought up

Again

s13silviagirl · 12-29-2007, 07:34 AM

Please forgive me, as I did not see the date. Guess I got a little worked up.

Didn't mean to be so short. OP~whatever came of the letter you wrote?

Gayle_T · 12-29-2007, 09:04 AM

I used to be a Flight Attendant for United Ailrlines. I would fly with my Schnauzer in cargo at that time, when on passes on my free time. Then the pilots said to me that that really wasn't safe. My husband and I fly quite a bit back and forth from Chicago to Florida now. We have a Red Bellied Parrot and our priceless Yorkie "Taylor". We pay $75 for each pet, each way.

Taylor does the 2 1/2 hour flight well....and so does Wrigley, our little parrot. I can see that a longer flight could be a problem because any "Travel Day" is LONG! Wrigley, our parrot seems to be the trouble-maker. He waits until we are about 34,000 feet in the air and the flight attendants are doing their beverage service....then he starts his "Cell Phone" ring. The flight attendants are looking around to see WHO didn't turn off their phone...and passengers are all shaking their heads....like IT'S NOT ME!!!!! When they discover that it's our little parrot usually everyone laughs....and then Wrigley let's out with a big laugh too. So far we've been lucky without any big delays.

One tip is always make sure that you have a very up to date heath certificate and all paperwork with your baby.

s13silviagirl · 12-29-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gayle_T

Wrigley, our parrot seems to be the trouble-maker. He waits until we are about 34,000 feet in the air and the flight attendants are doing their beverage service....then he starts his "Cell Phone" ring. The flight attendants are looking around to see WHO didn't turn off their phone...and passengers are all shaking their heads....like IT'S NOT ME!!!!! When they discover that it's our little parrot usually everyone laughs....and then Wrigley let's out with a big laugh too.

OMG that is funny!!!! I can only imagine!

mizzwanned · 12-29-2007, 10:02 AM

When i went to pick up Sophia in Chicago i flew back with her on jetblue. I paid $50 beforehand just to be safe but it really wasn't necessary as they did not check at all or seem to care i had a dog. No one even knew i think. Anyway i kept her under the seat for take off and landing but during the flight she was shaking A LOT and i felt bad, even when i tried to give her treats she refused and she even peed in the carrier so i took her out for a little while and put her under a blanket. The stewardess didn't seem to know at all, there was just an annoying lady next to me that kept looking at me like she never saw a dog before, i mean her eyes would pop out her head! lol but she didn't say anything either. It was hard getting Sophie back in the bag, i felt so bad but the ride was quick luckily!

YorkieTime07 · 12-29-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chattiesmom

I understand your frustration. Peppy was required to stay in his carrier under the seat on his trip to Gerogia. Unless someone complained, I cannot imagine, for the life of me, what the big deal is with a 3 lb. puppy sitting on someone's lap as long as the pup is quiet and well behaved. I do understand that the other passengers would have problems with a wild child -- which brings to mind my BIGGEST complaint -- SKINKIDS who do not behave! I wonder if an airline could REQUIRE a parent to keep his skinkid under control?

I would imagine that the whole issue revolves around insurance issues. The concern would be what if your 3 lb. pup bit someone and then that someone sued the airline.

Hey those bad skin kids bite too!!!!!

so they have to come up with something better than that!~!!! LOL I plan to take my 4 lb Nathan on a trip for the first time for the international yorkie meet from Georgia to Mo...I pray I have a good experience. Thinking about leaving at night so that way I may have a little more leverage on taking him out or it will be his bedtime so he will just go to sleep!!

Sookie · 12-29-2007, 11:43 AM

Try flying Northwest with your dog - they have no clue what they're doing. I took Kalina on Northwest and held her on my lap the entire time we were sitting on the runway (HOURS!!) and no one said a word. I did ask everyone around me if it was OK and they were more than happy with it. The attendants didn't seem to care at all.

Mybabyboymax · 12-29-2007, 12:01 PM

I flew northwest when we got macy and she was out on my lap the whole time too. The flight attendants did not say anything at all. I was happy lol

yorkiekist · 12-29-2007, 12:11 PM

I applaud the airline that kicked the family off the plane because they could not control their screamming brat!!!!!!!! There is nothing like being locked up in a plane with kids screaming and crying the whole trip. Its amazing how we have to put our well behaved Yorkies in a crate(although some may not be well behaved!LOL). But I think that is the safest place for them on the plane.

Baby Madeleine · 12-29-2007, 12:11 PM

I flew Delta with Madeleine. On the way there she had her little head poking out of her carrier the entire time and the flight attendants didn't say anything, even though I know they saw her. On the flight back I had her carrier sitting on my lap the entire flight with my hand inside petting her.

No one sitting around me had a problem with it or I would not have done it. Also, I did not expect to be able to do this and if it bothered someone or the flight attendant told me I needed to put her back under the seat then I would have. With that said I do think the prices the airlines charge are a bit rediculous. When I flew, the cost it was to have Madeleine fly with me was more than MY ticket!!!

PiperPuppy · 12-29-2007, 02:24 PM

I've flown Northwest with Piper 5 times now and we've never had any problems. I leave her carrier under the seat until they tell everyone they can "feel free to move about the cabin". I carry a little bottle water-feeder to give her water (kind of like a small lixit) and we don't worry about spills that way. She generally sleeps, but when she wakes up, I do put the carrier on my lap and unzip it so that she can see me and get petted. The flight attendants don't seem to mind at all..and neither have any of my fellow passengers. I didn't know the rule was that they had to stay under the seat..I thought it was basically that they had to stay in the carrier. Sounds like I have been very fortunate on each trip to have had accomodating people around me. :-)

12-29-2007, 07:25 AM	#48
s13silviagirl Donating YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sunny Southern California!!!! Posts: 1,877	Well.........I feel sheepish. I didn't even see the date!!! __________________ My cute little Turbo butt! YES, we are also avid members of the CRAZYCLUB & Little Gentleman's Club! Turbo 's Tumi!!!

12-29-2007, 07:34 AM	#51
s13silviagirl Donating YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sunny Southern California!!!! Posts: 1,877	Please forgive me, as I did not see the date. Guess I got a little worked up. Didn't mean to be so short. OP~whatever came of the letter you wrote? __________________ My cute little Turbo butt! YES, we are also avid members of the CRAZYCLUB & Little Gentleman's Club! Turbo 's Tumi!!!

12-29-2007, 10:02 AM	#54
mizzwanned Donating YT 11K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: new york Posts: 14,007 Blog Entries: 2	When i went to pick up Sophia in Chicago i flew back with her on jetblue. I paid $50 beforehand just to be safe but it really wasn't necessary as they did not check at all or seem to care i had a dog. No one even knew i think. Anyway i kept her under the seat for take off and landing but during the flight she was shaking A LOT and i felt bad, even when i tried to give her treats she refused and she even peed in the carrier so i took her out for a little while and put her under a blanket. The stewardess didn't seem to know at all, there was just an annoying lady next to me that kept looking at me like she never saw a dog before, i mean her eyes would pop out her head! lol but she didn't say anything either. It was hard getting Sophie back in the bag, i felt so bad but the ride was quick luckily! __________________ Primrose, Teddy..RIP, Livie..RIP, And can never forget my duo Sophie and London, Run in Peace <3

12-29-2007, 11:43 AM	#56
Sookie My Four Sweet Babies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Jersey near Philadelphia Posts: 5,452	Try flying Northwest with your dog - they have no clue what they're doing. I took Kalina on Northwest and held her on my lap the entire time we were sitting on the runway (HOURS!!) and no one said a word. I did ask everyone around me if it was OK and they were more than happy with it. The attendants didn't seem to care at all. __________________ I LOVE MY BABIES

12-29-2007, 12:01 PM	#57
Mybabyboymax Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 1,859	I flew northwest when we got macy and she was out on my lap the whole time too. The flight attendants did not say anything at all. I was happy lol __________________ Its SummerTime!

12-29-2007, 07:17 AM	#47
Sugar's Mom BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,248	i realize this iss an old thread that someeone pulled back to the top so I will give my opinion on it. No one that flys with a pet should be surprised. The rules and regulations for traveling with pets are plastered all over all the airlines websites. I always check for the rules of any airline I am flying with a few days before I fly. I am flying Northwwest here in a few days and I have almost memorized the rules for traveling with pets. Rules are put in place for a reason. pets have gotten loose from carriers that owners had opened and had to be chased all over the airline. Upset pets have bitten other passengers.

12-29-2007, 09:04 AM	#52
Gayle_T Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 219	I used to be a Flight Attendant for United Ailrlines. I would fly with my Schnauzer in cargo at that time, when on passes on my free time. Then the pilots said to me that that really wasn't safe. My husband and I fly quite a bit back and forth from Chicago to Florida now. We have a Red Bellied Parrot and our priceless Yorkie "Taylor". We pay $75 for each pet, each way. Taylor does the 2 1/2 hour flight well....and so does Wrigley, our little parrot. I can see that a longer flight could be a problem because any "Travel Day" is LONG! Wrigley, our parrot seems to be the trouble-maker. He waits until we are about 34,000 feet in the air and the flight attendants are doing their beverage service....then he starts his "Cell Phone" ring. The flight attendants are looking around to see WHO didn't turn off their phone...and passengers are all shaking their heads....like IT'S NOT ME!!!!! When they discover that it's our little parrot usually everyone laughs....and then Wrigley let's out with a big laugh too. So far we've been lucky without any big delays. One tip is always make sure that you have a very up to date heath certificate and all paperwork with your baby.

12-29-2007, 12:11 PM	#58
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	I applaud the airline that kicked the family off the plane because they could not control their screamming brat!!!!!!!! There is nothing like being locked up in a plane with kids screaming and crying the whole trip. Its amazing how we have to put our well behaved Yorkies in a crate(although some may not be well behaved!LOL). But I think that is the safest place for them on the plane.

12-29-2007, 12:11 PM	#59
Baby Madeleine Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 1,094	I flew Delta with Madeleine. On the way there she had her little head poking out of her carrier the entire time and the flight attendants didn't say anything, even though I know they saw her. On the flight back I had her carrier sitting on my lap the entire flight with my hand inside petting her. No one sitting around me had a problem with it or I would not have done it. Also, I did not expect to be able to do this and if it bothered someone or the flight attendant told me I needed to put her back under the seat then I would have. With that said I do think the prices the airlines charge are a bit rediculous. When I flew, the cost it was to have Madeleine fly with me was more than MY ticket!!! __________________ Monica and Madeleine Member of the Spoiled Rotten Club

12-29-2007, 02:24 PM	#60
PiperPuppy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 53	I've flown Northwest with Piper 5 times now and we've never had any problems. I leave her carrier under the seat until they tell everyone they can "feel free to move about the cabin". I carry a little bottle water-feeder to give her water (kind of like a small lixit) and we don't worry about spills that way. She generally sleeps, but when she wakes up, I do put the carrier on my lap and unzip it so that she can see me and get petted. The flight attendants don't seem to mind at all..and neither have any of my fellow passengers. I didn't know the rule was that they had to stay under the seat..I thought it was basically that they had to stay in the carrier. Sounds like I have been very fortunate on each trip to have had accomodating people around me. :-)