Okay, here I go again...YOU CAN clean with vinegar, that's what Mom used all her life...it doesn't smell like the urine!
That's AMMONIA that you don't clean it up with..omg
As far as cleaing it up, get some natures miracle, it won't hurt them and it takes the smell up..wipe it up first with an old rag, soak up as much as you can, them I spray it with the natures miracle, and then I let it set about 5 min. and then wipe some more..!

I have to disagree about bleach being bad. If used correctly (diluted, allowed to air dry/evaporate) bleach is very safe and effective. LOL, of course, I agree that it can't be used on every surface.

Edited to add: I believe it is AMMONIA that you are not to use to clean up urine, not vinegar. White vinegar is a staple in my house for cleaning. :)

I can see you are having a very hard time with the pup, your hubby and your anger with the breeder. Try your best to seperate the three but talk to your hubby and have him on your side because you both need to be on the same page.

I noticed a few posts back your husband didn't get to him in time. If you on 60 min time frame for taking him out then you need to change it to 45 min. and write it down so you know what your husband is doing and he know what you are doing.

I like the crate til he gets used to knowing when you are happy and praise him for doing his business in the correct place but Never Never get upset with the pup and put him in the crate because you are. This crate is his haven and a place where he is happy until he can graduate to an x-pen and I like the x-pen idea also.

Just one other thing every trainer I have ever known has said to give the first dog more attention than the new one (now that does not mean you neglect the new pup) but the first has to know your love is not being replaced and they will in turn get along better. I too think you should get to a library and read as much as you can but housebreaking is very basic and hard work. Good Luck!!

Yes, I know not use Ammonia, and that it smells just like pee, wich naturally has Ammonia in it! You would not want to use it to clean up pee messes, as it would attract a dog to that area to pee.

I was also told by a dog trainer and also a friend that works in an Animal Hospital in Toledo, Ohio that Vinegar should not be used because it can also smells a lot like pee, believe it our not, thats your choice. I was told that mixing the pee smell and the vinegar together will confuse the dog. they will smell the vinegar and it having the pee smell will make it think that it is a spot to pee in. They said to use a pet stain removal products because they are formulated to handel pet mess, like urine, vomit, feces. They work by neutralizing the odor, the enzymes in the solution brake down the waist till the smell is gone.

Also if the pee soaked into the carpet pad then your best bet is to lift the carpet to clean the pad and reclean the carpet area. So you might want to see if they are nessing in the same spot over and over, that might be the problem.

I have had 2 trainers in the last year specifically tell me to use vinegar as a correction method to break them from peeing in the house. They told me to clean it up first with water then wipe it with vinegar and make them smell it and verebally correct them. Dogs are supposedly offended by the vinegar smell. I have always cleaned their room with white vinegar and it gets rid of the smell and I know mine don't like the smell.

Well, I hate to differ with him, but if you do a search on the internet, vinegar(white) mixed with some water works wonders..it stinks to us, but it doesn't smell like the dogs pee...Believe me, My mother who is 81, has used it since she had dogs, and she's had them all her life...and as far as the smell, I've used it before, my dogs smell it and run away from it, they sure don't pee there the 2nd time

vinegar will work...I am so sorry and I don't mean to be rude, but I really think you might want to find that baby a new home, it sounds as if your not very happy with him, and they pick up on your moods...He is only 5 months, we don't let puppies go till they are 12weeks old which means, 3 months or sometimes longer, if you expected him to be trained by 5 months you haven't been reading alot on yorkies, they are the hardest to train, and too he doesn't know you, scared to death, and God only knows of the situation he was in at the breeders...:( Please sell him and find him another home...:(

I agree with peanut. As much as we hate to see a dog have to be in another home , you have only had him two days and there is no bond as yet and I think to find another loving home where he could be the only dog would be best for all concerned. Your contract may read he has to go back to the breeder so I would check that first.

How much did you pay for the dog?

Hey ladies, give this girl a break. She's only had the pup for less than 24 hours, got home in the middle of the night and is feeling a wee bit overwhelmed...let's try to help her out before we give up on her. What do ya say??? If everytime I got overwhelmed I had gotten rid of the cause, instead of calming down and figuring out how to deal with it, I'd be a really lonely person (you know, no hubby, no job, no pets, no.....;) :D )

:thumbup: :thumbup: I agree. I know first hand that it's hard to adjust to a new pet in the mix. Especially if you feel you've been lied to and if your original dog doesn't take to him immediately. Just try to remember that it's not the dogs fault and he only wants you to love him. Things will get better. Just try to remember that he's still a baby and he isn't doing these things on purpose. Hopefully you'll be able to get some extra sleep tonight so that things will go smoother tomorrow. And, each day he's with you he'll learn your routines and rules. Just tell yourself that you can make it through the first week or two and then you'll be in a better position to evaluate what needs to be done. He'll be used to you by then and you'll be bonded more to him. Just look into those gorgeous eyes every chance you get (who could resist those cute eyes!) and tell him you love him. He'll be happy and you'll feel good for making him so happy. He's a beautiful pup. Good luck!

Nice post!!!:D

I use belly bands for Carson...he's still having accidents, so if i can't 100% watch him, I have one on him. He's 10 months. I use Always feminine pads with wings and don't have any leakage. I change it as soon as he has an accident too...so he doesn't get skin irritation.

I bought mine from Des at Go.Fetch. She does a good job. and they are pretty inexpensive.

Good luck and hang in there. He'll get it in time.

deb

First off, I want to say congrats on you new baby, It will get better, everytime i got a new baby there was a adjustment period, sometimes taking as lond as 2weeks, i know sounds like a long time, he isnt use to your rules or your house and he needs reasurrance that its his new home, Im sorry you feel like the breeder lied to you, thats stinks:( but please give him a chance and before you no it, he and your other baby will be best buds;) I just recevied my belly bands from go fetch and they are great and very reasonably priced;) good luck and take a deep breath:) :)

Years ago when we got our first house dog (golden retriever) we were told to crate train him and to get the book The Art of Raising a Puppy by the Monks of New Skeet. I know that our yorkies are much smaller, but the principles are the same. I don't have to use the crates all of the time now, but have one setting out all of the time. The dogs will go in it to rest or get away. It was also necessary to train them to crates to travel to shows, the vets and to be contained at shows. It crate training is done correctly it is not mean or abusive. Maybe this book would help your husband understand how to get the pup house trained. Yorkies and other small dogs take longer to be 100% trained. I usually tell people that they will be over a year old before you can expect no accidents.

Kathy785, I love that book and it is so helpful. There is another one called "Evans Housetraining your dog" by Job Michael Evans. Its great and he shows how tethering pays off as I remember the monks do too.

Wow, I am a little overwhelmed reading your posts. Sounds like you are totally consumed by your Pom, and I just hope that your Yorkie will be able to stand up to the standards you have set for him because of your Pom.
Time flies by and I'm sure your breeder never meant to lie to you about his age. She did tell you he was not potty trained, which is more typical of Yorkies than not. If I understand correctly his teeth sound normal, and the extra teeth should be removed when you neuter him. Patience, Love and consistency is the key.
Your Pom is trying to show dominance by humping your Yorkie's head. They will work it out by themselves in 2-3 weeks, if given opportunity.
He may need wormed since he is so hungry. You also have another Dog there which if your Pom is showing dominance, he may think he has to hurry, although you feed them separately.
Make play time fun, and always give lots of hugs and kisses. You will be amazed at how great he becomes, and you wouldn't be able to imagine life without him. I always tell my families that it will take about 2 weeks to settle in even if there isn't another dog. Warning however.. once you own a Yorkie.. you can't have just one ;)
I am looking forward to your posts of just how great this little guy is, how much you love him, and how much he loves you, and not so upset about what he isn't or what he is doing wrong!!
I am attaching a picture of 2 Yorkies that I sold to a lady at separate times, who fought for 2 1/2 weeks when the 2nd one came. It will work out!!

This is the best post!! Everything is so true!! Good posting!! :thumbup:

Well, I havn't been able to read through all the posts but wondered how you were getting on today? I hope things are looking up.

That picture is precious ....

Hi hon
thanks for asking, the dog is still displaying paranoid and unsocialized behavior as well as messing in his belly band. I have to crate him unfortunately, I hate doing this but I have no choice. My pom is definitely alpha over him and does not seem to like him too much. Real snarling and showing of teeth going on here. I have to let them play 10 to 20 mins then separate them. Dont want a dead dog on my hands.

About how long does it take for them to get close, if that will ever happen?

Thanks fo rthis nice post. yes, patience and yes, I am obsessed with my Pom, I really am. I dont expect the yorkie to be like my Pom, but my Pom is here first and I do have to try to figure out how to share my love equally. Remember, this is the first time I have two babes to care and love. So give me a little time.

I am glad to hear it takes two weeks, I guess I was expecting instant miracles as my Pom was really super easy to house break and only had very very few accidents. Plus he came to me as a wee baby this one is much older and has some very bad habits obviously from the breeder.

What is the very longest I can crate him per any given time? Like I have to run errands now and go to the doc which will be like 3 to 4 hours. Is this in humane?

Take him OUTSIDE to potty train him every chance you get and PRAISE everytime he goes outside.
3-4 hours isn't too long to crate but you should work up to that..little by little.. The longest I crate is 4 hours. Good luck.. Patience..;)

... well it is most certainly NOT the dogs fault that he is not Pottytrained at all and you should not be mean to him. He does not know it any different. The Owner is to blade for this and not him ....

Since he is that old already this will be hard to train to ..... :(
Just try to have pations with him cause if you don't things will only get worse.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/att...7&d=1193024250
OMgosh, can you even stand the cuteness?! LOLThough "two weeks" has been offerered as a possible time line, I think it was only given as an example. I don't think there is an exact time, as each dog is his/her own personality, and will take his/her own sweet time about making adjustments. For instance: When Abigail came to us at 8 weeks (I know...too early for breeder to let her go - I was naive), I had a senior pooch, Mozart (11y/o) who did not become aggressive at all. He went the other way and allowed her to dominate the whole house! He would not come out of the bedroom for several weeks except to drink and eat. Would not join in play, would not give me little licks as he'd been doing his entire life. He would peek into the den, as if checking to see if "IT" was still here, then retreat back into the bedroom to sulk. I was really getting worried about his depression. Gradually - over months - he has accepted her presence ("Well, I guess "IT"s here to stay"). Abigail will be two in December, and just in the past three months has he seemed like his old self again. I shared all this so you won't be discouraged if, when two weeks is lapsed, Pom and Yorkie still are not the best of friends. Be sure to give them each time of their own with you. When Mo was feeling displaced, I had to seek him out to spend time with him.

btw, I think you're doing great returning here for advice and encouragement - despite some of the harsher posts. It shows you do care for this pup and want to make it work. Just remember the rule of being 'owned' by a Yorkie: patience, Patience and PATIENCE. Then, when your patience reserve is all dried up, reach down further and pull up some more! Soon, you'll look back on this time as just a bump in the road. Earning the love/trust of one of these li'l guys is a lifelong reward. You won't be sorry :).

Hi, I don't have any advice for the potty issues because I'm still doing it myself at 10 months old....but I came across his interesting article on bringing a new dog into the house.....I hope it give you some insight to how the dogs interact, it did me.......

http://www.petpublishing.com/dogken/...s/topdog.shtml

I was just checking in to see how you are getting along with your new baby?

I have 3 yorkies, my 1st one is Lillie and I got her as a puppy. My 2nd one is Baby and I adopted her at 4.5 yrs old.

My 3rd is Rocky and I adopted him at 9 months old.

Lillie and Baby, it took about 1 week for them to adjust to each other and it was no time for Rocky to fit in.

I think you just have to give it sometime. But you can't be standoffish to your yorkie, you have to hug and cuddle with him, he needs your love right now.
I know you love your pom, but you have to be able to love both of them at the same time!
When I sit down, I have 3 yorkies on my lap all at the same time. I give them all my love at the same time!

I would also take him out to potty every chance you get and when he goes outside, it's party time! Praise him up and down and let him know you are so proud of him!

He is such a cutie, you are very lucky!

What a great article. Thanks for sharing! That explains a lot of why Mozart still puts up with so much from Ms Abigail. He's 3Xs her size, and will not discipline her. *sigh*YES! When training Abbie (8 months of hard work every day!), every time she was successful, we had Potty Party!!

he goes out every hour, but even after going out he will come in and do it about 15 minutes later. This seems a bit strange to me. Even when I had my ´baby Pom at 11 he was not going that often, he was like 30 mins, then he worke dup to an hour and so no. Then he finally can hold 4 to 7 day light hours while not confined, now even my pom is going more than every hour. I stuffed toilet paper inthe sock bally band I made and they are still somehow managing to spray thru the belly band.:mad:

Did you say 8 months to train her:eek: oh my goodness I do hope not.