...........housebreaking probably took 2 months........sweetie, the puppy is not the real reason for your anxiety.....you are going through something else and the puppy situation just happens to be what you are dealing w at the moment.... everything you are mentioning is really only stuff that has a solution ...it's up to you if you want to share what you are really upset about..........

Oh Jesus:eek: , so in other words even tho he is 5 months it has to be treated as an infant now come home:eek:

I am not upset at the pup, I am upset at my husband's stupid attitude towards the way I do things as you all told me to do. I only listened to EXACTLY what you all said and husband thinks I am mean and discriminating by crating one and not the other. There is nothing else going on. I didnt get a baby for that same reason, now I got an older dog and she told me ont he phone he was about 80% taken out and knew it, that was not so.

So tell me this, is it good to take him out individually or together with the pom so he can learn and pick up his rythum? I hear that dogs syrchronize after a while?

And my puppy the Pom is a boy not a girl, so two boys.

Okay....deeeeeeep breath!

It can take awhile for all to get used to each other. One thing that will go a long way is if you calm down.:)

Here's what finally worked for my hubby. We adopted a sweet little yorkie boy at a year old. He'd had lots of trauma in his young life and it was a challenge in the beginning.

Outlook is everything. All I saw was the wonderful things that were happening. DH was overwhelmed by the negatives...

Finally, one day I calmly explained to him that I would like to give things a try for another 4 weeks. If at the end of that time, dh wasn't feeling better about things, we'd take him back. No questions asked, no grief from me.

When dh stopped seeing everything through the lens of "oh my gosh, what have we done, look at how this has upset our lives" and started seeing things day by day...he fell as in love with this little guy as I was.

Sometimes we get too wrapped up in the big picture. Enjoy the good moments. Buy some belly bands (this will greatly reduce your stress). Realize the bad stuff is temporary (if you have to tell yourself you'll find him a new home in 2 months if you don't feel better, tell yourself that). It's too overwhelming if you let it be.

Find things to enjoy about your new pup. Find quiet moments to spend with your other dog. Realize that the turmoil is temporary.

Then you can get to business making things work...but you've got to relax first:)



Good luck!!!

......first of all I don't appreciate you taking the Lord's name in vein....second of all I am going out now w my 3 babies to the beach, the rest of the YT'rs seem to have more compassion than I do so I'll let them put up w this nonsense.................good day..........

He sure is a cutie pie.

I just LOVE this picture. When we went to visit Abigail's litter, there was one little female that did just exactly this, every time hubby stood still. She would find him, and lay her little head on his foot! It was so adorable, I almost took her instead of Abbie!

. Both your dogs are adorable. In most of the pictures I see the Yorkie laying down. is he acting scared? He may be because of it all being new to him and with your other male. jumping and pawing at him. even if hes just wanting to play. with them both peeing it sounds like your pom is now trying to mark his territory, it happens a lot with males. your not going to be able to train him in just a few days its prob going to take weeks even months, but you will be there. if you get upset the dog will feel this and it will be harder to train him

Thank for your post and advice. I will get belly bands, is this like a pad or something or a diaper? Do I let him pee in it and poop?

Ok, as of now I will try to CALM down internally. I want to keep him, he is sweet, very pretty and I see in him maybe trauma from the litter? He seems to have been neglected and has to rush and steal food. That is my impression as the way he approaches a bowl head down tail tucked and guzzling. I suspect he was abused by the other dogs as she realized she didnt want to keep this one anymore so no need to treat him great. This is my suspicion. I have never had an animal with this kind of paranoid beahvior so I dont know. And hte other things is I didnt raise him, so I dont knowwhat makes him tick or not, you know what I mean? I can tell my pom like the back of my hand. i nurtured him from a baby, he knows me inside out and I know him inside out. This is the only part I miss and so I have to find out ways to get to know him and what makes him tick and causes him to act this way.

Yes, he is mostly lying down or hiding betwen our legs. I have never had two toy dogs in my life at one time, so this is a first time expereince for me.

So tell me about the peeing and marking. Shoul he be crated many times a day or only at night? My Pom normally will scratch the front door or nudge me to go out. He has not done this since the yorkie came last night.:(

I have never used a crate for my two, but I know a lot of people do. If you do use a crate I would not keep him in it very long. if you can keep him in one room so you can watch his every move and take him out as soon as you see him trying to potty and just say no potty outside and keep with it, he will soon learn to go out to potty.
wearing belly bands only wraps aroung their middle. yes they can still poop, it just keeps them from marking the furniture. if he pees in it you need to put a clean pad in it, you dont want him to run around wearing a wet pad and end up getting sore or infection. its just to help in pottying. let him wear it around the house and take it off every few hours and let him go out to potty then when he comes back in put it back on him.

Marking a lot of male dogs mark, even some females. its hard to break them , but you can do it. one male will try and pee over top the other males pee. and so on. just keep telling them no potty putside and keep taking them out.
Good luck

Ok thanks, I will get the belly bands, so it is not so much to pee in but to make them hold the pee then? I have to find a way to get one neutered. because in one year my house will smell like a sewer:cool:

Sounds like you need to go back to basic training. Are there any places you can take him for obedience training? I would definitely crate him, or limit the area where he can go.

Oh yes, he will start Obedience at once on Sat. My Pom has been going to obedience but all the stuff he knows with regards to obdeience I taught him, but yorkie will be going on Sat religiously no doubt about that.

You have to remember, little pups are scared, this is all new to him, within a day or two, he will fit right in..We had an obedience trainer come to help us train our 2 outside dogs, he said one thing that has stuck with me..When a dog does something wrong, it's NOT the dogs fault. DOGS DON'T MAKE MISTAKES, THE OWNERS DO.

Ummm I just got the dog at 3am this morning, I doubt it is my fault. Now If I had has him a month or two I would say yes, I just brought him home less than 12 hours ago:cool:

Can someone tell me if Belly Bands are just cloth or does it have that thing that soaks up liquid? Is this something I can make now until I get some?

so, you thought you were getting a 4 month old dog. did you expect the 4 month old dog to be completely trained when you got him?

i'm sorry...i think you are being irrational. how can you say it is not your fault? the poor pup has been brought into a home where he is expected to be behaving perfectly, and when he isn't, you are "boiling mad" at him. you need to get a grip on yourself and realize that he will NEVER be a good dog if he isn't made to feel welcomed and loved. all the posts that you have made here about him are negative. i have not heard one positive thing...other than the fact that he is pretty...about him. YOU chose to bring that dog into your home. HE didn't chose that. YOU need to be the one that is getting trained...and then, and only then, will you be able to train your dog. you are not giving him a chance!! you have had him for less than 2 days...he is a PUPPY and you are expecting him to know where to pee, poop, and when to do so. maybe he doesn't know how to tell you when he needs to go out. maybe you are not letting him stay out long enough and that is why he is coming into the house to potty. you can't expect him to know everything...you have to teach him. that is your responsibility. yours...and yours alone. you can't blame the dog, your pom, or your husband. you chose to bring him home...YOU take control and train him.

i agree....i don't think there are bad dogs...I think there are bad owners. same with kids....i think there are a lot of bad parents...which in turn creates bad kids.

I think the puppy senses your stress. 1st was it your idea to get the new pup? If it was you shouldn't be mad at your hubby. I adopted my Yorkie Peanut at 7 months. He was not potty trained. My other 2 were and the female had regressed since Peanut will sometimes go in the house. You need patience and understanding. 5 months is a baby. I have 3 babies and they have always gotten along since I let them decide who is going to be the alpha. That is how they work it out in the street and the wild and that is how it works in my house. They do know I am the ultimate Alpha and they all run for cover when they know I am mad. I walk all 3 together without a problem this actually helps since they copy each other and know what is expected of them to do outside. Peanut is still not totally potty trained but I am patient and dedicated he has to learn. Crating him is a good idea since it teached them to hold thier bladder a little longer. Good luck with him.

Oh and he has all his baby teeth except 2 and has 3 new adult teeth so I will have them pulled when he is neutered.

soryy this is my first post on this thread I have been reading it... I agree with mandee :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Sounds like you're in over your head at the moment. Two things can happen - you can either make this work OR the situation just isn't right for your family at this particular moment. We can have the best intentions but not realize how it upsets the balance of the family. I would strongly suggest the belly bands for you - you can put a piece of a sanitary pad in them to absorb any pee BUT REMEMBER, it's potty training AS USUAL. A dog should ideally never pee in a belly band. In my opinion, they are more for the owner's stress level. You should potty train exactly as if they weren't wearing them. But you won't have that heightened stress of wondering when they're going to make a puddle or mark. And I think one thing you need to do, although very difficult, is stop comparing your new Yorkie to your Pom. The dogs are different, but you're different also. The situation has changed and you're approaching this with more stress than last time, if for no other reason, than the fact that there are two to care for now. Also, I'd limit their time together. The Yorkie may be getting overwhelmed with the Pom. He went from dominant litter mates to a dominant big brother. Give them little play times together and build up to free time together.

You've got some good instincts on the way you've picked up on his fear of getting enough food. You're treating him kindly when you hold and pet him. Build on those good things...........

Mot to sound rude but have you read any books on puppy training? I will be getting my puppy in December so I have been reading a lot of books on puppy training and "Puppies for Dummy's" has great information on house training, Also "The Dog Bible" has great information too. They explain how to use a crate for house training too.

Also I think you said that you are using vinegar to clean up the accidents, do not use it, it smells a lot like pee thus not getting rid of the smell and leading the puppy to belive that it's ok to pee their. OxiClean solution or Natures miracle works great as a cleaning product.

Also do not scold the puppy when it has accidents in the house, even a negative attention as scolding is, it is still a form of attention and the dog will then in a way be trained to use the house because it got attention in some form.

Good luck, and remember that he is still a puppy even at 5 months old!

No, he has all his adult teeth except three canines

Sure I have, I have raised at least a dozen or more puppies in my lifetime. I have never raised two toys before. And I have never raised and that were not infants. This is the first time. I am patient, I am listenint to you all and I have been implementing it. He jsut arrived less than 15 hours ago. I have to note his pattern and frequency. He seems to be going every 45 minutes to an hour, strange for age 5 months. But then again, my Pom has reverted back to infant going each hour as well.

The yorkie just peed on the paper in his room and tried to poo on the carpet, husband caught him in time. One thing I can say is this. He is inhaling the food, even tho I am feeing him alone. Literally inhaling the kibble without chewing it. That to me is definitely a dog who had to steal food or scavange for food. He has a great appetite and will eat anything. My pom is still picky but ah well. He will get there eventually.

They are separated again, as they seem overwhelmed with eachother.

How long do you all think it takes for the newbie to get accustomed to the other dog and the other way around?

Good heavens, someone told me use it, good grief, no wonder they are both returning to the same place:eek: What about bleach? I dont have that brand where I live

I have been charting my Pom since I got him so I know his frequency, he has been holding for many hours up to 7 until number two arrived lol. So now I am charting scoobydo and hopefully I will get his rythum in a few days or so. But they are wearing socks as belly hands LMAO:D ...one gal told me to do this and hey, it works LOL:D

Wicket is 8 mos old and he is still not completely potty train, he still goes out about every hour to pee. Wicket is a smaller yorkie so his bladder is smaller, Ichabob was a 1yr old before he was completely potty train, and I do know the more you stress about it the harder it is to potty train them. they can sense your anxiety.

Originally Posted by adorame
Also I think you said that you are using vinegar to clean up the accidents, do not use it, it smells a lot like pee thus not getting rid of the smell and leading the puppy to belive that it's ok to pee their. OxiClean solution or Natures miracle works great as a cleaning product. That "someone" might have been me :D . Bleach is a great disinfectant/cleaning agent; however, it is toxic to your pets and family. And, it can't be used in some placed pup may mark (furniture, carpet) Now, I am a bleachaholic. I had to cut back, because many experienced breeders told me I was not only hurting my pets; but, it could have a cumulative effect on my family, as well. They suggested vinegar. White vinegar can be used on furniture and carpeting. Also, I think being like 100Xs more sensitive than human noses, a dog can tell the difference between pee and vinegar.

I would definetly take him out hourly and spend lots of time loving him in between..like you said you have only had him for hours so of course he is going to be scared and not know exactly where he is supposed to be going. I have rescued dogs that were 5 years old and not housebroken and had them broken in a couple weeks. Why are you keeping your pom and him seperate? I missed that somewhere?? Let them play together outside together and see how they interact...sometimes yes there is a set back for the dog you already have when the new dogs messes in the house but most likely he will learn from your pom where to go. The best trainer for Soleil was my other two dogs. Your yorkie could very well have been partially housebroken with the breeder...he is probably just confused with his new surroundings. Belly bands are great IF they do have accidents..buts it purpose isnt like a diaper..as for the teeth maybe he is losing his baby teeth?? Maybe the vet will know better. My husband didnt help with the training much either but thats ok..they were my idea and now he has the hang of what I was trying to accomplish with them. Take all your energy and put it into this dog and in a few weeks you will have a wonderful pet...he is just probably so afraid of you and your hubby. Alot of times with litters of puppies they will eat very fast to get the food...but in time when he realizes there isnt a real competition for food he will settle down. Just give him his portion and even if he gobbles it up he will learn that is all he gets until next time.

He is just gorgeous!!! What are their names???

Dawn

You put a pad in the belly band..it's so they won't pee on anything, they go in it..this means when he lifts his leg, he won't be getting anything on your furniture..he can still poop out of it..Well, dogs sense things, he's scared first of all, and 2nd of all, he can sense the way you're feeling..you need to calm down!! 5 mos. is still a baby..dogs can hold their bladders(rule of thumb) one hour for each month..so, figure 5 hours for him..there are a lot of websites on housebreaking..I would def. get him fixed before he matures..If he's hiking his leg this early, most likely he already smells pee in places where your other dog has peed...Myself, I'm not big on crates, never have been, what I have bought is an xpen, I would keep him in that..you can put his bed at one end, food and water and pee pad(if you\'re going to use those in the other end..if you\'re going to take him outside, get in a routine..it\'s going to take time, love and patience!