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[abbie's mom]

Your new puppy is exhausted, too. Just like you are. Except he also is frightened, not knowing "what kind of mess" he's gotten himself into.

[YorkieShadow]

It will take awhile for him and everyone to adjust. maybe he was just hungry . next meal try seperating them when they eat. 5 months is not really that old. he can still be potty trained. if your other pets are potty trained it will help him catch on faster. but you will have to be patient and work with him. I hope it all works out for everyone. would love to see pictures.

[Beckyhebert]

Sorry you drove so far and the woman was not honest with you. Although unfortunate , it is not the dogs fault, so start fresh with and let him know who ALPHA is ... crating is a good place to start. It was once put to me like this ... for your puppy to run your household is like asking you to run this country. So get a hold of him and let him know he can be disciplined and loved by you.

[soccbydo]

Originally Posted by yougetthesmiles

I adopted my male at 9 months old and he has been so good! He fit right in!

What is your other breed of dog you have?

Since you have both males, they are going to test each other to see who is the leader of the pack, but you have to make sure they BOTH know that YOU are the leader, not them!

here is my first puppy I was keeping him a secret as he is my fist baby and has really been a wonderful boy and well trained for 5 months old. He is 4.1lbs

Oh HE IS IN THE PUPPY UGLIES NOW

[soccbydo]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

It will take awhile for him and everyone to adjust. maybe he was just hungry . next meal try seperating them when they eat. 5 months is not really that old. he can still be potty trained. if your other pets are potty trained it will help him catch on faster. but you will have to be patient and work with him. I hope it all works out for everyone. would love to see pictures.

I just posted pics of my first puppy, he is 95% house trained. yes, I know it will take a lot of work. That is what you ladies are here for, to help me keep my sanity . I think I will need to separate them. I also need to feed number one first and not second.

[soccbydo]

Originally Posted by Beckyhebert

Sorry you drove so far and the woman was not honest with you. Although unfortunate , it is not the dogs fault, so start fresh with and let him know who ALPHA is ... crating is a good place to start. It was once put to me like this ... for your puppy to run your household is like asking you to run this country. So get a hold of him and let him know he can be disciplined and loved by you.

Thanks, so crating means I am showing him I am heach hog?

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by soccbydo

here is my first puppy I was keeping him a secret as he is my fist baby and has really been a wonderful boy and well trained for 5 months old. He is 4.1lbs

Oh HE IS IN THE PUPPY UGLIES NOW

5 months is still very young and it sounds like he did not have the best life up until now. 5 months is not "old" as you are putting it. he has a lot of capability to learn a lot of things. but you will HAVE to have patience. and you will have to get control. sound like you are really stressing and he knows this!! and him tucking his tail under his butt makes it sound like maybe he is not very secure feeling...you need to be doing all you can to make him feel safe, secure, and loved. not stressing out and flipping out because he is having accidents and eating your other dogs food. instead, you need to calm down and just love him. love him until you can't love him any more. once he feels loved and secure, he will WANT to please you...and hence will be sooo much easier to train. it's not extremely common to have a fully trained dog at 5 months old. in fact, a lot of dogs are really hard to train until they are about a year old or so when their attention span is a little longer. my best friend has a boxer that is just STUBBORN and hard to get her to calm down and train her...she is just a year old now and is getting much much better. they got her at 9 months old and it was a total mess. but chloe loves them...and she feels so safe and secure with them...and tries very hard to please them.

it will get better. but you have to give it time, patience, and a wealth of love. there are a lot of wonderfully smart people here on YT and i am sure you will get all the help and support you need...but you have to show that you are patient and willing to tough this out.

[soccbydo]

Originally Posted by abbie's mom

Your new puppy is exhausted, too. Just like you are. Except he also is frightened, not knowing "what kind of mess" he's gotten himself into.

Yes, I nkow, he was shaking, I held him and let him come inside and inspect the new place while the other one stayed outside with my husband. Then I talked gently to him and up popped his ears. He has lovely ears and gorgeous coat. Has his testicle stayed down he would be used for breeding, the lady didnt want to sell him but the testicle went back up. Othersiwe he is lovely.

Oh, an HUGE thig also, he has three cainine teeth, one is out, is this normal at age 5 months? Will the new tooth ever comeout? He also has all his adult front teeth, is this also normal? I was a bit shocked as my Pom baby still has all his baby canine and many of the milk front teeth

[crb]

I can relate...we sold one of our pups to a friend of mine for her 18 year old daughter, at first I was a little reluctant about it but I knew the daughter and she would come over once a week to play with the puppy, she was really excited about it and asked a lot of questions. So I thought it was going to be alright. Well 3 months after they had him, the parents called me and asked if they could bring him back, turns out the daughter wasn't spending much time with him and he was literally tearing up the house, tearing the wall paper off the walls and such. The daughter would try to make him sleep with her, but if he started barking and wanted out she would let him out of her room and he would go sleep with the parents, so they were the ones letting him out in the middle of the night, she wasn't taking care of him.

Of course we took him back, he was nearing 6 months old at the time, and it was just 25 days after I had just lost my precious Baby Kosmo, so I was in no shape to care for a puppy again, even at almost 6 months I still looked at him as a puppy. He had never been crated and was not potty trained. The first night we had him we put him in a crate, he barked almost the whole night. He did this for about 4 days, then he realized that his barking was not going to get him what he wanted anymore. Now he is my sweet little Max who just turned 1 year old last week. He still has accidents every now and then, but he is a sweet boy and I couldn't imagine life without him.

So if I can do it you can too, you will just need some patience and give him a lot of loving, it sounds like he may not have gotten a lot of that from where he came.

Good Luck!

[soccbydo]

Originally Posted by pepe mint

5 months is still very young and it sounds like he did not have the best life up until now. 5 months is not "old" as you are putting it. he has a lot of capability to learn a lot of things. but you will HAVE to have patience. and you will have to get control. sound like you are really stressing and he knows this!! and him tucking his tail under his butt makes it sound like maybe he is not very secure feeling...you need to be doing all you can to make him feel safe, secure, and loved. not stressing out and flipping out because he is having accidents and eating your other dogs food. instead, you need to calm down and just love him. love him until you can't love him any more. once he feels loved and secure, he will WANT to please you...and hence will be sooo much easier to train. it's not extremely common to have a fully trained dog at 5 months old. in fact, a lot of dogs are really hard to train until they are about a year old or so when their attention span is a little longer. my best friend has a boxer that is just STUBBORN and hard to get her to calm down and train her...she is just a year old now and is getting much much better. they got her at 9 months old and it was a total mess. but chloe loves them...and she feels so safe and secure with them...and tries very hard to please them.

it will get better. but you have to give it time, patience, and a wealth of love. there are a lot of wonderfully smart people here on YT and i am sure you will get all the help and support you need...but you have to show that you are patient and willing to tough this out.

Sure I will tought it out. My Pom is not 100% trained, but I would say 95%. But he is very good with many tings in obedience and knows I am boss. he does everything to please his mommy . It only took me a few tries to get him to learn all the stuf he knows and it is many. I only hope I can teach this yorkie also. But I understand I must not do it with my current puppy around as they wont listen.

I can put my poms best and most delicoius snack right dead in front his face on the floor and tell him wait for 3 minutes the I say ok. If I dontn say ok he will never touch it. I leave the room and come back and it is still there and he stil llooking patiently at it lol

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by soccbydo

Thanks, so crating means I am showing him I am heach hog?

no, but crating will help him feel secure. When these little guys get in a big open place with a lot going on, they tend to get scared and nervous. crates should be a small, comfortable, safe place for them...a place that they go to feel secure. If you do it right, he will love his crate. (maggie LOVES her crate and is very protective of it...it is HER place...HER cozie home) and it will also help control the accidents. MOST (not all) dogs will not urinate or defecate in small confined places. so keeping him in there when you cannot be watching him closely will teach him to hold it. AS SOON as you let him out, go STRAIGHT to the place he is supposed to go to use the bathroom. no play time between the crate and that place...straight there to potty. then you can play for a bit...then potty again..then when you can't watch him, BACK to the crate. this teaches him to hold it until the right time to go potty. take him to potty about every 2 hours and praise him tremendously when he goes out.

i know you have another dog and have trained that dog...but every dog is different. my cocker was SUPER easy to train. but other dogs i have had were a lot more work. i had an italian greyhound that would pee and pooh in his crate and play in it...not matter how small the crate was. he was almost impossible to train. but diligence and consistency paid off after 10 months!!!!!! yep..10 months.

you just never know...but when you take in a new pup...not matter what the age...you have to be wiling to do the work

[soccbydo]

Originally Posted by crb

I can relate...we sold one of our pups to a friend of mine for her 18 year old daughter, at first I was a little reluctant about it but I knew the daughter and she would come over once a week to play with the puppy, she was really excited about it and asked a lot of questions. So I thought it was going to be alright. Well 3 months after they had him, the parents called me and asked if they could bring him back, turns out the daughter wasn't spending much time with him and he was literally tearing up the house, tearing the wall paper off the walls and such. The daughter would try to make him sleep with her, but if he started barking and wanted out she would let him out of her room and he would go sleep with the parents, so they were the ones letting him out in the middle of the night, she wasn't taking care of him.

Of course we took him back, he was nearing 6 months old at the time, and it was just 25 days after I had just lost my precious Baby Kosmo, so I was in no shape to care for a puppy again, even at almost 6 months I still looked at him as a puppy. He had never been crated and was not potty trained. The first night we had him we put him in a crate, he barked almost the whole night. He did this for about 4 days, then he realized that his barking was not going to get him what he wanted anymore. Now he is my sweet little Max who just turned 1 year old last week. He still has accidents every now and then, but he is a sweet boy and I couldn't imagine life without him.

So if I can do it you can too, you will just need some patience and give him a lot of loving, it sounds like he may not have gotten a lot of that from where he came.

Good Luck!

Awww, how sweet of you to take him back, I am happy it worked out. Yes, certainly, this one is very quiet. Idont hear him at all. and even if he wines he wont get out NO way. Husband thinks I´am a mean woman, but he doe snot know sqaut about dogs . If he would only back off and let me do the training it will work out, but he meddles

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by soccbydo

Awww, how sweet of you to take him back, I am happy it worked out. Yes, certainly, this one is very quiet. Idont hear him at all. and even if he wines he wont get out NO way. Husband thinks I´am a mean woman, but he doe snot know sqaut about dogs . If he would only back off and let me do the training it will work out, but he meddles

when i got maggie, my vet told me that if she is in her crate and whines...do not pay ANY attention to her. and def. don't let her out. she needs to not think that whining and acting out will get her out of the crate. kinda like kids

[Potter]

14 hours is a long drive. You must be tired and puppy must be tired, confused and stressed too. 5 months is still very young and very trainable, not as 'old' as you think. My sister got her maltese at almost 7 months and was wee pad trained in 2 days although breeder said he never trained her at all. Take a good rest and start fresh tomorrow with the pup when you feel refreshed.

[Erin]

He's still trainable. Get him neutered ASAP to help with the marking. Crating is a GOOD thing as long as you give him frequent breaks. Don't worry about being "alpha" just help him to learn the rules, like he sits for his food and attention. Feed them separately or feed him in his crate. Sounds like this bowl might work well for you if he isn't chewing his food. It slows them down.

When we got Sammy she was almost a year old and peed and pooped wherever she wanted. 6 months later she rarely has an accident. It can be done. We combined crate training with tethering and watching her closely and we still take her out often to avoid the chance of an accident.

You also might need a training class just so you have some help and don't feel so overwhelmed.