Possible Shunt/Liver Disease

[Maximo]

How do these results compare to her previous BATs?

[aproctor]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

I forget and don't want to skim the whole thread, so what tests did they do? The enzymes came down into normal range now?

This was the results we got from the blood tests:
ALKP: 28
ALT: 44
BUN: 16
CREA: 0.9
GLU: 96
TP: 6.4

Originally Posted by Maximo

How do these results compare to her previous BATs?

Her previous BAT results were:
Pre~103
Post~35.3

[107barney]

I'm sorry to hear that Lucy's BATs were so high. I did not realize that they were so high the first time around. I'm actually surprised about the fasting liver enzyme values being so low and the BATs being so far off of reference. But don't despair - you don't have all the information yet and my guess is you will need further diagnostics to figure this out. If it is at all reassuring, I can tell you that my dog was 93 PRE and 107 POST at the time of diagnosis and that number is now 13 PRE and 3 POST

One thing I have tried (and I say TRIED) to learn is to treat my dog and not its blood work. I am concerned with labs, but as my vet recently told me, you can chase labs forever. If the dog isn't sick, I'm not sure how far I'd go. See what they say and what they recommend for Lucy. They might want to try her on the Hill's l/d and repeat BATs or they may want you to do other diagnostics. I would say though that the #s are definitely not normal, not even close. I'm really sorry for you and Lucy.

[ladyjane]

I will keep Lucy in my thoughts and prayers.

[aproctor]

Originally Posted by 107barney

I'm sorry to hear that Lucy's BATs were so high. I did not realize that they were so high the first time around. I'm actually surprised about the fasting liver enzyme values being so low and the BATs being so far off of reference. But don't despair - you don't have all the information yet and my guess is you will need further diagnostics to figure this out. If it is at all reassuring, I can tell you that my dog was 93 PRE and 107 POST at the time of diagnosis and that number is now 13 PRE and 3 POST

One thing I have tried (and I say TRIED) to learn is to treat my dog and not its blood work. I am concerned with labs, but as my vet recently told me, you can chase labs forever. If the dog isn't sick, I'm not sure how far I'd go. See what they say and what they recommend for Lucy. They might want to try her on the Hill's l/d and repeat BATs or they may want you to do other diagnostics. I would say though that the #s are definitely not normal, not even close. I'm really sorry for you and Lucy.

Thank you! It's so hard because I want to do what is best for her....I just can't figure out what would cause the BAT's to be so high when the other blood work was sooo good!!

So what did you do for your dog to get the numbers down to 13 and 3? That is awesome!

I am so anxious to hear what they will recommend at this point and I hope they call again SOON!!!

[107barney]

Originally Posted by aproctor

Thank you! It's so hard because I want to do what is best for her....I just can't figure out what would cause the BAT's to be so high when the other blood work was sooo good!!

So what did you do for your dog to get the numbers down to 13 and 3? That is awesome!

I am so anxious to hear what they will recommend at this point and I hope they call again SOON!!!

My dog is medically managed with diet.
I hope you have more info soon.

[aproctor]

Yes my Lucy is a mystery especially since normally fasting is lower and after food it is higher.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by 107barney

I'm sorry to hear that Lucy's BATs were so high. I did not realize that they were so high the first time around. I'm actually surprised about the fasting liver enzyme values being so low and the BATs being so far off of reference. But don't despair - you don't have all the information yet and my guess is you will need further diagnostics to figure this out. If it is at all reassuring, I can tell you that my dog was 93 PRE and 107 POST at the time of diagnosis and that number is now 13 PRE and 3 POST

One thing I have tried (and I say TRIED) to learn is to treat my dog and not its blood work. I am concerned with labs, but as my vet recently told me, you can chase labs forever. If the dog isn't sick, I'm not sure how far I'd go. See what they say and what they recommend for Lucy. They might want to try her on the Hill's l/d and repeat BATs or they may want you to do other diagnostics. I would say though that the #s are definitely not normal, not even close. I'm really sorry for you and Lucy.

Her fasting or preprandial results were high, both times. Way high. I've never seen results like this.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by kjc

Her fasting or preprandial results were high, both times. Way high. I've never seen results like this.

I was referring to the chemistry values (ALKP: 28
ALT: 44).

I also have seen high fasting/preprandial results very high, in my own dog. Daisy's very first blood draw was 96 pre and 18 post BUT her Alkaline phosphatase was 279.

[yorkieusa]

Still keeping lil Lucy in my thoughts and prayers.

[aproctor]

Originally Posted by yorkieusa

Still keeping lil Lucy in my thoughts and prayers.

Thank you!!! It means a lot to have so much support!

[Maximo]

Ann, your little Lucy remains in my thoughts and prayers.

I hope the doctor calls you soon to discuss the next step in finding out what is behind the BAT results.

[aproctor]

Originally Posted by Maximo

Ann, your little Lucy remains in my thoughts and prayers.

I hope the doctor calls you soon to discuss the next step in finding out what is behind the BAT results.

Thank you Kristin!!!! I hope he call soon too or I may go nuts waiting!

[kjc]

Any news yet?

[aproctor]

No they haven't called yet. When I talked to them yesterday they said that the Dr was still waiting on the Dr at BP to call him back....still waiting!