Max is Limping - Seizure Related?

[MyBabyFynnlie]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

You've been really supportive. I'm just thankful the xrays came back normal, but the vet said that he was very sensitive in his lower right hip. If I put Cooper in with them they jump around and tug on toys. I'm finding things that keep Max busy for 20 minutes at a time. I froze peanup butter in a kong toy and he loved it. I have peanut butter dipped bully sticks, and tons of new toys. I froze chicken broth and give him ice pops.

They are sleeping now and will probably sleep till early afternoon.

That's creative! I never would have throught about freezing chicken broth. Fynnlie would love it. I tried the peanut butter and he wasn't thrilled with it. It lasted maybe five minutes? Good luck, though. Trying to figure out what to do with him to keep him calm. It sounds like the ex-pen is working well enough.

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by MyBabyFynnlie

That's creative! I never would have throught about freezing chicken broth. Fynnlie would love it. I tried the peanut butter and he wasn't thrilled with it. It lasted maybe five minutes? Good luck, though. Trying to figure out what to do with him to keep him calm. It sounds like the ex-pen is working well enough.

ya, if i'm in it with him!

Someone mentioned frozen chicken broth on another thread I created. They both really love it - not sure how healthy it is to eat though.

Also, oddly enough, Max is always calm when we go out in the backyard. He doesn't really run around and play in the grass. He'll either sit or lay. We spend a lot of time out there too now.

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

ya, if i'm in it with him!

Someone mentioned frozen chicken broth on another thread I created. They both really love it - not sure how healthy it is to eat though.

Also, oddly enough, Max is always calm when we go out in the backyard. He doesn't really run around and play in the grass. He'll either sit or lay. We spend a lot of time out there too now.

i would think that it would be totally healthy to eat chicken broth. try to get less chicken fat (floats to the top as it cools) and more of the broth. make it home made too, don't use the high sodium store brands, just boil the chicken in water and pour the newly flavored water into ice cube trays...they love it...but watch out for who is using the ice...my mom used one in her pepsi once and wondered why on earth it bubbled up so strange...we finally realized she's gotten a chicken cube and not ice LOL that was a fun day.

[MyBabyFynnlie]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

ya, if i'm in it with him!

Someone mentioned frozen chicken broth on another thread I created. They both really love it - not sure how healthy it is to eat though.

Also, oddly enough, Max is always calm when we go out in the backyard. He doesn't really run around and play in the grass. He'll either sit or lay. We spend a lot of time out there too now.

He loves his momma! I mean, it's chicken broth. If it's the organic, low sodium kind, I don't see how much harm it can really do. Fynn gets some low sodium, organic beef broth mixed in with his dinner sometimes. So... *shrug*

That's great! Fynn isn't. Oh no. We have outside cats and they love him and he loves them, so our outside time is trying to get the ADHD dog away from the cats so he can potty!

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

Thanks. We finally seem to have the seizures under control and I'm hoping his physical health will get back to normal soon.

I was just going to reply to your thread. I'm so sorry you have to go through what you are going through with your two.

thanks, it's been a mess this month. pending new job, leaving for an overnight trip, labor day weekend with my parents when their food spoiled and made Bentley throw up, ext ext ext. i can't wait til' next week. i can sleep in for once. work 2-10pm and the dogs can get back on track with their routines and feedings. and hopefully if i sit tight on their food until it's all better and slowly transition to a new food again we can make a good switch. i still want them to eat primarily raw because they were doing so much better on it, but i want kibble in their diet in case we need them to eat that while we're traveling and it's so much cheaper which can't hurt right now. i think raw mornings and kibble evenings would help. thanks for the support though i appreciate all of you guys but really appreciate you and cooper and max.

[AllDogBoots]

We've got some high maintenance dogs.

[yorkieusa]

Hope he rests well now. You've got your hands full. That's for sure!

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by yorkieusa

Hope he rests well now. You've got your hands full. That's for sure!

Definitely. Max is a bundle of energy. He's on anti inflammatory and muscle relaxer, so I'm sure he's not hurting. He just wants to play.

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

We've got some high maintenance dogs.

amen, and i'm running as fast as i can to the poor house at the moment....my dog's get my mansion, i get a cardboard box.

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

amen, and i'm running as fast as i can to the poor house at the moment....my dog's get my mansion, i get a cardboard box.

I share my mansion, but apparently spend quite a bit of time in the ex-pen

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

My vet says that growing pains (panosteitis) is much more common in large breed dogs and if the bones are squeezed the dog should react. Max doesn't seem to have a bone issue. It also switches leg lameness.

I discussed growing pains, puppy arthritis, hip displaysia, legg perthes, lyme disease - you name it.

Still nothing abnormal on the xrays. He and Cooper play hard. I've never had 2 dogs before and didn't realize I had to monitor much more closely. I think of Max as a big dog because he's almost 8 pounds, even though he's a puppy. I don't see him as fragile, but have definitely learned my lesson.

I hope this is the last scare. Max, for a 17 week old puppy has had more tests than I could want to imagine.

On another positive note: no seizures since his new dose of phenobarbital

Glad to hear no seizures!

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

I'm fine. Max seems to be walking a bit better this morning, but as soon as he picks up a little speed, his gait is very off. The only time he picked up speed was this morning after pottying outside and running to me because he was proud. He's sitting in an ex-pen screaming his head off while Cooper is circling it teasing him with toys. They usually go to sleep around 9:30 and sleep for a few hours. It's a full time job keeping them occupied.

The vet called on Sunday to check in on him. She said when she hit his sore spots, it was pretty bad. She said his back right leg was almost like a wooden leg She said I MUST keep him confined better.

He's got so much energy he's now running the circumference of his expen (which is fairly small). Last night I had to sit in it with him to get him to hush.

Confining pups and keeping them relaxed is a tough job. Poor Maxster. I pray that whatever is causing his limp goes away soon so that he can run to his heart's content.

[TresCutePiggies]

Have you considered a crate instead of an xpen to help keep him confined? Rory came up limping, and we weren't sure why, but the vet prescribed antiinflammatories and two weeks of inactivity (crate rest, basically). After two days, she showed no signs of pain, so I stopped the antiinflammatories (with the vet's permission) since I didn't want her to overdo it thinking she was better than she was, but I did the crate rest for the full two weeks.

The good thing about a crate is you can move it from room to room with you, pick it up and put it next to you on the sofa, set it on the nightstand next to the bed, etc. It's really easy to poke your fingers in there too. We used lots and lots of bully sticks and Himalayan chews too, but most of the time she slept. It was hard to leave her in there, but I knew it was for her own good.

Rory is very, very active, but I know nothing compares to the energy of a puppy, especially Max! Max (and Cooper) is so lucky to have you! Just thought I'd mention the crate to see if maybe you wouldn't have to spend large amounts of time in the xpen yourself.

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by TresCutePiggies

Have you considered a crate instead of an xpen to help keep him confined? Rory came up limping, and we weren't sure why, but the vet prescribed antiinflammatories and two weeks of inactivity (crate rest, basically). After two days, she showed no signs of pain, so I stopped the antiinflammatories (with the vet's permission) since I didn't want her to overdo it thinking she was better than she was, but I did the crate rest for the full two weeks.

The good thing about a crate is you can move it from room to room with you, pick it up and put it next to you on the sofa, set it on the nightstand next to the bed, etc. It's really easy to poke your fingers in there too. We used lots and lots of bully sticks and Himalayan chews too, but most of the time she slept. It was hard to leave her in there, but I knew it was for her own good.

Rory is very, very active, but I know nothing compares to the energy of a puppy, especially Max! Max (and Cooper) is so lucky to have you! Just thought I'd mention the crate to see if maybe you wouldn't have to spend large amounts of time in the xpen yourself.

Max doesn't show any signs of pain. He never did, but I continue the medication. Did you ever find the reason for Rory's limping?

I have thought of the crate but haven't tried it. I really think that Max will just scream for hours. It's certainly an option though. The main issues are from 7-9am and then from about 5-8pm. Both of them will sleep most of the day if I don't entertain them or wake them up.

For some reason I assumed it would heal much faster, even with activity. I feel I've wasted 2 weeks not keeping him confined and he's showing very little signs of getting better. Starting yesterday we finally got very strict with his activity. I'd rather hear crying and screaming than see limping. I may have to try his crate later this evening. Or, like I said before, put Cooper in the ex pen. He'll just sit there for about 20 minutes and then fall asleep, while Max lays on the outside.

[TresCutePiggies]

Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

Max doesn't show any signs of pain. He never did, but I continue the medication. Did you ever find the reason for Rory's limping?

I have thought of the crate but haven't tried it. I really think that Max will just scream for hours. It's certainly an option though. The main issues are from 7-9am and then from about 5-8pm. Both of them will sleep most of the day if I don't entertain them or wake them up.

For some reason I assumed it would heal much faster, even with activity. I feel I've wasted 2 weeks not keeping him confined and he's showing very little signs of getting better. Starting yesterday we finally got very strict with his activity. I'd rather hear crying and screaming than see limping. I may have to try his crate later this evening. Or, like I said before, put Cooper in the ex pen. He'll just sit there for about 20 minutes and then fall asleep, while Max lays on the outside.

We all flew back home the weekend before she came up limping. We stayed at my sister's house, which has hardwood floors, which she isn't particularly used to and she slipped/slid a few times while fetching toys. She also went back to her old doggie daycare to play during the days, and since it is basically her favorite place on earth she could have overdone it there I suppose.

By signs of pain, I meant limping. If I had let her she probably would have raced around and resumed all normal activities while limping.

It's so hard to keep these active little guys calm for any reason. I just kept reminding myself the sooner we got this healed up the sooner she could resume normal play. She wasn't happy with me, but I think she got used to it too. It just became the routine for those few weeks. As long as they won't wrestle in the xpen, then that would probably work if Cooper is what gets him all riled up anyways. I kept Lane's crate open next to Rory's, and she is so attached to Rory that she laid in her crate all day next to her.

[AllDogBoots]

Originally Posted by TresCutePiggies

We all flew back home the weekend before she came up limping. We stayed at my sister's house, which has hardwood floors, which she isn't particularly used to and she slipped/slid a few times while fetching toys. She also went back to her old doggie daycare to play during the days, and since it is basically her favorite place on earth she could have overdone it there I suppose.

By signs of pain, I meant limping. If I had let her she probably would have raced around and resumed all normal activities while limping.

It's so hard to keep these active little guys calm for any reason. I just kept reminding myself the sooner we got this healed up the sooner she could resume normal play. She wasn't happy with me, but I think she got used to it too. It just became the routine for those few weeks. As long as they won't wrestle in the xpen, then that would probably work if Cooper is what gets him all riled up anyways. I kept Lane's crate open next to Rory's, and she is so attached to Rory that she laid in her crate all day next to her.

I'm definitely doing the crate today. Last night was awful. Max jumps to try to get out of the ex-pen, which really doesn't help anyone.

He's in the crate now, crying and crying. I put him in the crate in the windowsill for a while (couch up against it), but Cooper went off into a corner upset. It's Cooper's special spot. I gave him a bully stick with a little peanut butter, which kept him busy for 20 minutes. I'm hoping he'll just cry himself to sleep