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Ladymom · 11-14-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by randiik

yes the vet bills would be high but if my vet could take the xray and then let the ga vet hospital confur on the results then at least a treatment plan could be established while i figure out how i can get the money needed for surgery. if i can get her where she is out of pain and able to be happy then i would want to go that route first. i will have to get donations and sell most everything i have which is ok. i am not sure how to go about getting donations but i would love to get pointers on how to go about doing that.

FYI, donations to raise money for vet bills through Yorkie Talk aren't permitted.

It has been my experience that no matter what tests your vet does, the vet school will repeat all the tests so it would really be a waste of money to have your vet take xrays.

Vicki/Bleu Boy would be better able to advise you on AI specifically, but in in general diagnostics alone can run a thousand dollars before you even get a diagnosis.

randiik · 11-15-2009, 02:28 AM

oh no i dont want to try to raise money through here. everyone has been so wonderful trying to help me with roriee.. i am up eariy with her this morning. she was in her cage but she makes a grunting noise in the back of her throat when she wants my attention and she was doing that this morning. omg i havent heard her do that since last weekend when i was on the computer and she wanted my attention!

she seems more alert this morning. but this is another symptom i am going to talk about and this is the reason i took her to the vet in the first place but it seems she still has it and this is where her pain is coming from. her mouth. when i try to clean her up after the pedisure she is screaming bloody murder. when i try to put a washcloth close to her mouth she trys to bite it and screams. i am looking at her hair that is matted and i see that her skin under her chin is red. she will not let me clean her up. i try to but she just will not have it at all. i am also seeing that her back legs are not working at all and her front legs do work a bit. she is wrapped up in a towel next to me but she wants to be in my arms so she paddles her front legs to propel her to me. right now she is quiet but she will not take any norishment even through a syringe. i will have to make sure she eats later this morning but when she screams my roommate gets upset. and its understandable since she sounds so bad.

anyway we are just holding on here. little changes but not much more to go on.

i am ok as long as i am proactive with her care. i really want to clean her up since she is sticky from the pedisure but i will wait until later today.

when the doctor first looked at her last week. he said she had to many baby teeth that were still there. would that cause her pain?

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 04:17 AM

no teeth will not cause that pain not puppy teeth they have hardly any roots. It probably hurts her neck when you wash her face so leave it alone for now the stickiness is least of your worries. I am concerned financially here this is not going to be a good situation. If you give her up to rescue they will get her the medical attention she needs but you will not get her back sadly. Sometimes in life we have to be unselfish and do what is right for the dog and this dog needs to be under the care of a neurologist asap. i know you do not want to give her up just as i would not but she really needs to get cared for and she is in pain so if finances are this tight you may have to make a hard choice i am afraid

Time is of the essence with this little one. I have spent over 20k in vet bills and when it is a serious thing like this it is costly and you need to be able to afford care for yourself as well as that is important. Times are very hard i know for everyone but you really need to start thinking what is best for this dog and get her the proper help. I hope you do not get mad at me but I have tried to come up with all the options and i am afraid if you mess with this much longer this dog will not make it and the worst of it as you describe she is in pain and no one should be in this kind of pain it is just not fair to this little one. I know you love her very much but sometimes loving something that much means doing the right thing for her. There are some wonderful rescues on here that you can work with in getting the care and as much as it upsets me why the owners cannot get the dogs back after they are better it is due to owners apparenty not paying back the bills as agreed so they end up getting them care and rehoming them at a cost so they can get the money back to help other dogs. Life is not fair I find with all this but sometimes we go through things in life as a learning process so maybe for some reason there is a lesson here that you are learning not sure what it is but I truly believe we go through things for a reason. I hope this all gets worked out for your baby quickly and again sorry if i upset you but i a very concerned about this dog.

randiik · 11-15-2009, 05:55 AM

who do i talk to for her to get the care she needs?

i am not mad at all. i know i have to make a hard choice and i have to do it in roriees best interest. i love her so much and the thought of being without her is crushing me inside but i have to get her the help she needs.

what if i did pay the bills back? like a payment plan? would they consider working with me and me giving them what i can until the bill is paid?

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by randiik

who do i talk to for her to get the care she needs?

i am not mad at all. i know i have to make a hard choice and i have to do it in roriees best interest. i love her so much and the thought of being without her is crushing me inside but i have to get her the help she needs.

what if i did pay the bills back? like a payment plan? would they consider working with me and me giving them what i can until the bill is paid?

I would conact a local rescue near you on petfinder.com you can do search by area and talk to the rescue and tell them your situation and see if they can work out a payment plan, etc and see if they will work with you. If not i can refer you to a rescue that I know of that will take her but they i do not believe will do a payment plan

I can check though and i will email them now.

randiik · 11-15-2009, 06:02 AM

okay lets do this.. thats how much i love her. i have to do what is best for her.

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by randiik

okay lets do this.. thats how much i love her. i have to do what is best for her.

i just emailed the rescue i know and going to email another one as well - i know one is out of tennessee which i think is close to you
i am so sorry i hate when it comes to this but I always want to let others know there are other options to help a sick dog even though it breaks my heart this option

randiik · 11-15-2009, 06:08 AM

the thought of being without her is beyond my strength capability. but i have to do what is best for her.

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by randiik

the thought of being without her is beyond my strength capability. but i have to do what is best for her.

i completely understand as i almost lost my boy to pancreatitis and i was so upset and it cost me 10k to save his life over a years time. This is why i try to help so many as i know how painful and financially draining it can be when they get sick and i wish there were more options

Yorkiexpress · 11-15-2009, 06:45 AM

Hi Connie here from Yorkshire Terrier National Rescue in Tennessee....we do not fund but we can get your baby help, but you will have to surrender her to us....if I were you my first option would be to apply for Care Credit....at I believe it is Carecredit.com most vets will take this, call you vet and see if they know about it...then have them run the Bile Acid tets and then they can give you a referral to UT...(UnIversity of Tennessee).....they are one of the best places to go for Liver shunt....if you need more info please contact me or go to Yorkshire Terrier National Rescue, Inc. you can read about Liver shunt there and also there is a link to Care Credit on our web site...Deb sent me your infor and the link to this....hopefully we can get the help you need for your baby...Liver shunt is not a death sentence.....so chin up and we can get her taken care of....
connie@yorkiexpress.com is my email address

Have you looked into Care Credit...most vets will take this....I am pretty sure University of Tennessee does and this is one of the best places to take your baby....but you need a vet referral

Quote:

Originally Posted by randiik

who do i talk to for her to get the care she needs?

i am not mad at all. i know i have to make a hard choice and i have to do it in roriees best interest. i love her so much and the thought of being without her is crushing me inside but i have to get her the help she needs.

what if i did pay the bills back? like a payment plan? would they consider working with me and me giving them what i can until the bill is paid?

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiexpress

Hi Connie here from Yorkshire Terrier National Rescue in Tennessee....we do not fund but we can get your baby help, but you will have to surrender her to us....if I were you my first option would be to apply for Care Credit....at I believe it is Carecredit.com most vets will take this, call you vet and see if they know about it...then have them run the Bile Acid tets and then they can give you a referral to UT...(UnIversity of Tennessee).....they are one of the best places to go for Liver shunt....if you need more info please contact me or go to Yorkshire Terrier National Rescue, Inc. you can read about Liver shunt there and also there is a link to Care Credit on our web site...Deb sent me your infor and the link to this....hopefully we can get the help you need for your baby...Liver shunt is not a death sentence.....so chin up and we can get her taken care of....
connie@yorkiexpress.com is my email address

Have you looked into Care Credit...most vets will take this....I am pretty sure University of Tennessee does and this is one of the best places to take your baby....but you need a vet referral

connie it is not liver shunt it is AAI i am pretty sure

the bile acids were done already and i recommended care credit. This girl needs to get to a neurologist ASAP

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 06:50 AM

Connie her number is lower down on the thread if you want to call and discuss some options for this little one but i think time is of the essence here as this little one is in a lot of pain

Yorkiexpress · 11-15-2009, 06:53 AM

Thanks Deb...i just re read this...I think she needs to get to the Congenitaldogs group....she can email Melissa at sunny0345@aol.com she owns the groups and can help her, thanks for the correction...lol I just saw the one post of Shunts...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwerten

connie it is not liver shunt it is AAI i am pretty sure

the bile acids were done already and i recommended care credit. This girl needs to get to a neurologist ASAP

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 06:59 AM

just heads up the group is on yahoogroups.com and you can do a search under that for congenital dogs

also I emailed another rescue group as well and waiting to hear back from them as well

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 07:00 AM

also go to rescue section on here and post a link on this

11-15-2009, 05:55 AM	#124
randiik Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: marietta, ga Posts: 99	who do i talk to for her to get the care she needs? i am not mad at all. i know i have to make a hard choice and i have to do it in roriees best interest. i love her so much and the thought of being without her is crushing me inside but i have to get her the help she needs. what if i did pay the bills back? like a payment plan? would they consider working with me and me giving them what i can until the bill is paid? Last edited by randiik; 11-15-2009 at 05:56 AM.

11-15-2009, 02:28 AM	#122
randiik Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: marietta, ga Posts: 99	oh no i dont want to try to raise money through here. everyone has been so wonderful trying to help me with roriee.. i am up eariy with her this morning. she was in her cage but she makes a grunting noise in the back of her throat when she wants my attention and she was doing that this morning. omg i havent heard her do that since last weekend when i was on the computer and she wanted my attention! she seems more alert this morning. but this is another symptom i am going to talk about and this is the reason i took her to the vet in the first place but it seems she still has it and this is where her pain is coming from. her mouth. when i try to clean her up after the pedisure she is screaming bloody murder. when i try to put a washcloth close to her mouth she trys to bite it and screams. i am looking at her hair that is matted and i see that her skin under her chin is red. she will not let me clean her up. i try to but she just will not have it at all. i am also seeing that her back legs are not working at all and her front legs do work a bit. she is wrapped up in a towel next to me but she wants to be in my arms so she paddles her front legs to propel her to me. right now she is quiet but she will not take any norishment even through a syringe. i will have to make sure she eats later this morning but when she screams my roommate gets upset. and its understandable since she sounds so bad. anyway we are just holding on here. little changes but not much more to go on. i am ok as long as i am proactive with her care. i really want to clean her up since she is sticky from the pedisure but i will wait until later today. when the doctor first looked at her last week. he said she had to many baby teeth that were still there. would that cause her pain?

11-15-2009, 04:17 AM	#123
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	no teeth will not cause that pain not puppy teeth they have hardly any roots. It probably hurts her neck when you wash her face so leave it alone for now the stickiness is least of your worries. I am concerned financially here this is not going to be a good situation. If you give her up to rescue they will get her the medical attention she needs but you will not get her back sadly. Sometimes in life we have to be unselfish and do what is right for the dog and this dog needs to be under the care of a neurologist asap. i know you do not want to give her up just as i would not but she really needs to get cared for and she is in pain so if finances are this tight you may have to make a hard choice i am afraid Time is of the essence with this little one. I have spent over 20k in vet bills and when it is a serious thing like this it is costly and you need to be able to afford care for yourself as well as that is important. Times are very hard i know for everyone but you really need to start thinking what is best for this dog and get her the proper help. I hope you do not get mad at me but I have tried to come up with all the options and i am afraid if you mess with this much longer this dog will not make it and the worst of it as you describe she is in pain and no one should be in this kind of pain it is just not fair to this little one. I know you love her very much but sometimes loving something that much means doing the right thing for her. There are some wonderful rescues on here that you can work with in getting the care and as much as it upsets me why the owners cannot get the dogs back after they are better it is due to owners apparenty not paying back the bills as agreed so they end up getting them care and rehoming them at a cost so they can get the money back to help other dogs. Life is not fair I find with all this but sometimes we go through things in life as a learning process so maybe for some reason there is a lesson here that you are learning not sure what it is but I truly believe we go through things for a reason. I hope this all gets worked out for your baby quickly and again sorry if i upset you but i a very concerned about this dog.

11-15-2009, 06:02 AM	#126
randiik Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: marietta, ga Posts: 99	okay lets do this.. thats how much i love her. i have to do what is best for her.

11-15-2009, 06:08 AM	#128
randiik Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: marietta, ga Posts: 99	the thought of being without her is beyond my strength capability. but i have to do what is best for her.

11-15-2009, 06:50 AM	#132
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	Connie her number is lower down on the thread if you want to call and discuss some options for this little one but i think time is of the essence here as this little one is in a lot of pain

11-15-2009, 06:59 AM	#134
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	just heads up the group is on yahoogroups.com and you can do a search under that for congenital dogs also I emailed another rescue group as well and waiting to hear back from them as well

11-15-2009, 07:00 AM	#135
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	also go to rescue section on here and post a link on this